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December 4, 2012 2:16:09 AM

Radeon HD 7770

GTX 550 ti

GTX 650ti

Radeon HD 6850


Now, I'm going to be running these in 1600x900 resolution. If I get the 550 or 7770 I can upgrade my processor to something like an intel 2500k. Otherwise it's on of the AMD fx processors. What do you guys think?

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a c 110 U Graphics card
December 4, 2012 2:18:32 AM

The obvious choice is the 650 ti but if you need the i5 get the 7770 (2ยบ best).
December 4, 2012 2:20:51 AM

Now would you think it's good to forgoe the 650ti for a 2500k? I'm probably going to be recording gameplay but, again, it'll be 1600x900 resolution.
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a c 504 U Graphics card
December 4, 2012 2:23:30 AM

Ranked by best to worst relative performance:

1. GeForce GTX 650 Ti

2. Radeon HD 6850

3. Radeon HD 7770

4. GeForce GTX 550 Ti
a c 110 U Graphics card
December 4, 2012 2:27:37 AM

you said the price of the 650 ti or 6850 will imply the move for amd cpus (bad move by the way) and with the 7770 you'll be able to buy a i5-2500k.
I don't know the prices in question of the gpus nor the cpus in your area, nor your mobo but if you can go with a 650 ti +i5-3470 or 3570k then great, if not get the 7770 + the intel cpus.
a b U Graphics card
December 4, 2012 3:21:20 AM

what processor do u have now?
a c 86 U Graphics card
December 4, 2012 4:15:38 AM

ko888 said:
Ranked by best to worst relative performance:

1. GeForce GTX 650 Ti

2. Radeon HD 6850

3. Radeon HD 7770

4. GeForce GTX 550 Ti


Radeon 7770 generally beats Radeon 6850 by a little with current drivers.
a c 290 U Graphics card
December 4, 2012 4:20:59 AM

Get i5 and HD 7770. That's the best thing you can do: going for FX CPUs would be bad.
a c 86 U Graphics card
December 4, 2012 4:33:19 AM

FX isn't bad, it's just not as good. Regardless, I agree, if you have to sacrifice the i5 to get a card other than a Radeon 7770, then in this situation, go for the i5 with the Radeon 7770. The next cheapest card worth making such a drop from an i5 to a weaker CPU is the Radeon 7850. The GTX 650 Ti isn't worth it.
a b U Graphics card
December 4, 2012 9:04:35 AM

Get a GTX 650 Ti with i5 3470.

3470 is faster and cheaper. But doesn't have a K version, but still better than FX...!!
If you can't afford 3470, get 3450.
a b U Graphics card
December 4, 2012 2:36:03 PM

+1 to Sumukh's recommendation. You'd not be able to tell the 3450 and 3470 apart, though they are very closely priced. The GTX650 Ti is on par with the GTX560 if that's any help.
a c 86 U Graphics card
December 4, 2012 5:05:59 PM

GTX 650 Ti is very variable. For some things, it's on-par with the GTX 560, for others, it's on-par with the Radeon 7770. It's 128 bit bus doesn't give much breathing room for such a high-end GPU as it has (it's GPU is almost as powerful as that of the GTX 660) and that keeps it from distinguishing itself from the Radeon 7770 in memory-intensive situations IE that which is more common in newer games. As time goes on, the advantages of the 650 Ti fall down. If you want to spend more than the 7770 on graphics, the next logical step is the Radeon 7850.
December 5, 2012 2:09:27 AM

Yes I've heard great things about the 7850.

Now, does anyone know how the 6870 would compare to the 650ti? They're comparably priced and from what I've observed as far as their statistics on NewEgg, the 6870 would outperform the 650ti. Anyone have any ideas?
a b U Graphics card
December 5, 2012 2:40:12 AM

hd 6870 is sligtly better than the 650 ti,
but 650 ti is newer card, consumes less power, and is so small that it fits anywhere!

but if u can u should get the 7850 it's best out of these. and performs about 15-20% more than the 650 ti.

by the way what cpu do u plan on getting? if u get the 7850
a c 92 U Graphics card
December 5, 2012 3:25:06 AM

Nicklovn said:
Yes I've heard great things about the 7850.

Now, does anyone know how the 6870 would compare to the 650ti? They're comparably priced and from what I've observed as far as their statistics on NewEgg, the 6870 would outperform the 650ti. Anyone have any ideas?

the 7850 is about 40% more powerful than the 650ti
a b U Graphics card
December 5, 2012 8:48:46 AM

esrever said:
the 7850 is about 40% more powerful than the 650ti


Can you post a benchmark suite/full review that backs it up?
a c 92 U Graphics card
December 5, 2012 6:01:33 PM

sam_p_lay said:
Can you post a benchmark suite/full review that backs it up?

a b U Graphics card
December 5, 2012 6:08:07 PM

Certainly can't argue with that! GTX660 is looking nice!
a b U Graphics card
December 6, 2012 2:12:11 AM


i'm sorry to point out a mistake but, thats not 40% performance above 650 ti :non: 
it's becoz it went over 100% to 200% so 40% is actually 20%.
let me give u an example...
HYPOTHETICAL
lets say we compare 550ti to 7970 an GTX 690.
lets say that 7970 is a 1000% better than the 550ti and the 690 is 1100% better than the 550 ti.
does that mean that 690 is (1100% - 1000%) = 100% better than the 7970?
NO.
its bcoz they are above 100% so the rules r a little different.
the 7850 is 20% faster than the 650 ti.
a c 86 U Graphics card
December 6, 2012 2:14:16 AM

dheeraj9933 said:
i'm sorry to point out a mistake but, thats not 40% performance above 650 ti :non: 
it's becoz it went over 100% to 200% so 40% is actually 20%.
let me give u an example...
HYPOTHETICAL
lets say we compare 550ti to 7970 an GTX 690.
lets say that 7970 is a 1000% better than the 550ti and the 690 is 1100% better than the 550 ti.
does that mean that 690 is (1100% - 1000%) = 100% better than the 7970?
NO.
its bcoz they are above 100% so the rules r a little different.
the 7850 is 20% faster than the 650 ti.


In the high details, settings that you'd play with on the 7850, the 7850 was more than 40% (slightly over 42%) ahead of the 650 Ti. Even in the low details, settings that wouldn't be used on the 7850, it was over 30% (about 32%) better, not a mere 20%. I recommend re-reading the benchmark and fixing your math.

Also, the minimum frame rates would have been even more different due to the 650 Ti's far too weak memory bus. That's even more important than the average frame rates.
a c 92 U Graphics card
December 6, 2012 2:24:00 AM

blazorthon said:
In the high details, settings that you'd play with on the 7850, the 7850 was more than 40% (slightly over 42%) ahead of the 650 Ti. Even in the low details, settings that wouldn't be used on the 7850, it was over 30% (about 32%) better, not a mere 20%. I recommend re-reading the benchmark and fixing your math.

Also, the minimum frame rates would have been even more different due to the 650 Ti's far too weak memory bus. That's even more important than the average frame rates.

couldn't have said it better my self.
a c 86 U Graphics card
December 6, 2012 3:24:08 AM

I've already told you that there were seven releases from AMD since Catalyst 12.11 Beta. Furthermore, in higher settings such as what you'd use on the 7850, it is around 40% instead of merely around 30% as shown by Tom's. Also, again, minimum frame rates are also more different than the averages and that's a bigger deal. Regardless, the 650 Ti is simply an overpriced card. In normal quality settings and resolutions, the difference between it and even the Radeon 7770 dwindle.

Nvidia just released a new driver a day or two ago (Tom's, as usual, was late to report it) and it evens the scales a little, mostly from its adding TXAA support for two more games than performance improvements, but still.
a b U Graphics card
December 6, 2012 3:40:46 AM

blazorthon said:
I've already told you that there were seven releases from AMD since Catalyst 12.11 Beta. Furthermore, in higher settings such as what you'd use on the 7850, it is around 40% instead of merely around 30% as shown by Tom's. Also, again, minimum frame rates are also more different than the averages and that's a bigger deal. Regardless, the 650 Ti is simply an overpriced card. In normal quality settings and resolutions, the difference between it and even the Radeon 7770 dwindle.

Nvidia just released a new driver a day or two ago (Tom's, as usual, was late to report it) and it evens the scales a little, mostly from its adding TXAA support for two more games than performance improvements, but still.

7 releases???!!!
well i dont have an amd card, so i didn;t know that.
and yeah i never said that 650 ti is better than 7850, but since i dont have the latest benchmarks i guess 7850 could be around 40% better!
by the way do u have an amd card? or the newest benchmarks?
December 6, 2012 4:15:06 AM

MAN JUST GO FOR 650Ti
IT WILL BE BEST
a c 290 U Graphics card
December 6, 2012 4:16:36 AM

dheeraj9933 said:
i'm sorry to point out a mistake but, thats not 40% performance above 650 ti :non: 
it's becoz it went over 100% to 200% so 40% is actually 20%.
let me give u an example...
HYPOTHETICAL
lets say we compare 550ti to 7970 an GTX 690.
lets say that 7970 is a 1000% better than the 550ti and the 690 is 1100% better than the 550 ti.
does that mean that 690 is (1100% - 1000%) = 100% better than the 7970?
NO.
its bcoz they are above 100% so the rules r a little different.
the 7850 is 20% faster than the 650 ti.


HD 7850 is at 192.9%. GTX 650 Ti is at 135.6%. 192.9 * 100 / 135.6 - 100 = 42.25%. So yea, esrever is correct.
a c 86 U Graphics card
December 6, 2012 5:06:11 AM

dheeraj9933 said:
7 releases???!!!
well i dont have an amd card, so i didn;t know that.
and yeah i never said that 650 ti is better than 7850, but since i dont have the latest benchmarks i guess 7850 could be around 40% better!
by the way do u have an amd card? or the newest benchmarks?


I have a Radeon 7850, but I have other Ati, AMD, and Nvidia cards in many other systems too. However, my Radeon 7850 is modded somewhat and extremely overclocked, so it's not even close to being representative of a reference Radeon 7850.

Yeah, seven releases. It might be eight by now, but I don't think so.
December 6, 2012 6:24:36 AM

I recently upgraded my gpu to a 7770 from a 6670,a I have an i5 processor so the fps will be about the same. On minecraft I will get about 300-400. On black ops 2 I get 60(it doesn't go further) battlefield 3 I get 29-31fps ultra and I play on 1920x1080.
December 6, 2012 9:25:46 AM

I've run a GeForce GTX550Ti for about a year and I regularly get decent FPS in whatever game I play. It was pricey when new, but has come down a lot, if you can hold off a bit, the newer cards will come down as well. For new games it's a *must* to have the most up to date drivers which usually means BETA drivers. I can get 60-70 on BO2 (Vsnyc OFF) I keep AA low as it really isn't needed in MP. I'm getting high 30's in AC3 (in Boston and NY; outdoors Frontier 60's+), and a minimum of 40's in Hitman. All 3 games have texture, level detail, FOV, etc. maxed out and ALWAYS run @1980X1080. Usually leave shadows low to mid (Hitman's are set one below Ultra) as I never find myself staring at the ground. It also takes an OC very well with MSI Afterburner. No it's not the "best", but don't count it out if you are on a budget. Same goes for AMD. I'm running a lowly Athlon II X2 250 OC'd @3.95Ghz (upgrading to a new board and chip soon) and I've yet to run into any issues of NOT being able to play a game with most settings maxed and 30-40's FPS being the norm for single player games. Anything over 60 FPS is a waste of money IMHO, especially if your refresh rate is 60Hz. I liken it to a car that has a max speed of 190MPH but you'll never go more than 70 on the highway-


Here's an old Average Perfomance Graph of the 550
http://media.bestofmicro.com/Q/I/284778/original/Avg%20...
December 6, 2012 9:47:08 AM

SUHAIL_70 said:
MAN JUST GO FOR 650Ti
IT WILL BE BEST


LOL! But yeah +1 :-)
a b U Graphics card
December 6, 2012 12:22:42 PM

i dont think the guy who started this thread cares anymore......
December 6, 2012 12:55:07 PM

dheeraj9933 said:
i dont think the guy who started this thread cares anymore......


Haha you might be right about that. I think a lot of people don't take these purchases as seriously as we do... I guess if they did, they wouldn't be asking on a forum anyway - they'd research benchmarks and deals themselves rather than just hope the people they ask know what they're talking about :-) My brother and best friends can never be bothered so just trust me with it.
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