Gaming build questions

Hey guys and girls
I am new to building computers but i have a pretty good understanding of computers. This is my build for i wanted to make a small gaming desktop, kind of like a steambox that's under 800 dollars. So i was wondering what kind of psu i should get for the build and any suggestions about the graphics card would be good. So, my build is

Processor: i5 3570k
Graphics Card: EVGA GTX 660
Motherboard: MSI H61M-P31 LGA 1155
Hard Drive: Seagate 500gb 7200rpm SATA
Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 (Micro ATX)
PSU: ?

Please help me and i really appreciate all of the help.
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  1. whats ur country of origin and do u require monitor. windows. keyboard.mouse?
  2. zke12 said:
    Hey guys and girls
    I am new to building computers but i have a pretty good understanding of computers. This is my build for i wanted to make a small gaming desktop, kind of like a steambox that's under 800 dollars. So i was wondering what kind of psu i should get for the build and any suggestions about the graphics card would be good. So, my build is

    Processor: i5 3570k
    Graphics Card: EVGA GTX 660
    Motherboard: MSI H61M-P31 LGA 1155
    Hard Drive: Seagate 500gb 7200rpm SATA
    Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 (Micro ATX)
    PSU: ?

    Please help me and i really appreciate all of the help.


    In all honesty I would wait a month. By then we should have the 8970 out to drive down prices. Right now the prices on parts aren't that great...
  3. Thank you for replying. Well I'm in america and i would like to at least have the windows os in the budget, but this is only about the tower not the peripherals (this is said in a nice way). I agree about the prices but how many watts power supply should i get.
  4. whats ur total budget u can spend? and do u have specific needs?
  5. My budget will be 800 dollars maybe a little above that. My needs are for video editing like making gameplays and gaming. I want to play battlefield 3 on high 60 fps or maybe even ultra at like 50 fps.
  6. u can play on ultra with 800 bucks at 50fps. thats asking alot, but u can get high quality atleast

    heres something for ur budget.

    PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ylz5
    Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ylz5/by_merchant/
    Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ylz5/benchmarks/

    CPU: Intel Core i5-3470 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($149.99 @ Microcenter)
    CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper TX3 54.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($17.99 @ Amazon)
    Motherboard: ASRock H77M Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($69.99 @ Newegg)
    Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($40.98 @ NCIX US)
    Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ NCIX US)
    Video Card: Galaxy GeForce GTX 660 Ti 2GB Video Card ($244.99 @ Newegg)
    Case: Zalman Z9 ATX Mid Tower Case ($31.98 @ NCIX US)
    Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 450W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($42.99 @ NCIX US)
    Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.98 @ Outlet PC)
    Total: $688.88
    (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
    (Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-18 23:21 EST-0500)

    Base Total: $772.68
    Mail-in Rebates: -$45.00
    Total: $727.68
    (Using your selected merchants and only including nearby in-store pickup prices)
  7. I'm sorry if I'm asking to many questions, but is the i5 3470 a good processor that wont bottleneck? Is there maybe a possibility that i can fit these items in a micro atx case? I am really appreciating your help.
  8. shur, im going for whats best for ur budget, 3470 is quite fast.

    PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ylF0
    Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ylF0/by_merchant/
    Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ylF0/benchmarks/

    CPU: Intel Core i5-3470 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($149.99 @ Microcenter)
    CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper TX3 54.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($17.99 @ Amazon)
    Motherboard: ASRock H77M Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($69.99 @ Newegg)
    Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($40.98 @ NCIX US)
    Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ NCIX US)
    Video Card: Galaxy GeForce GTX 660 Ti 2GB Video Card ($244.99 @ Newegg)
    Case: Silverstone SG01-BF MicroATX Desktop Case ($99.99 @ NCIX US)
    Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 450W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($42.99 @ NCIX US)
    Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.98 @ Outlet PC)
    Total: $756.89
    (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
    (Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-18 23:33 EST-0500)

    Base Total: $830.69
    Mail-in Rebates: -$35.00
    Total: $795.69
  9. Thank you so much. What monitor and keyboard should i get? Are games compatible with windows 8 or should i go with windows 7?
  10. mostly compatible with windows 7, id get windows 7,

    whats ur budget for monitor?

    and do u need win7?
  11. 100 to 150 dollars for monitor. Mostly 100 or less dollars.
    I dont care about the os i mean i like windows 8 itself but i dont want to waste money if games can't work on it. And i dont have a problem with windows 7. So which monitor do you think would be a good monitor and os
  12. ok here.

    PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ym0u
    Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ym0u/by_merchant/
    Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ym0u/benchmarks/

    CPU: Intel Core i5-3470 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($149.99 @ Microcenter)
    CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper TX3 54.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($17.99 @ Amazon)
    Motherboard: ASRock H77M Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($69.99 @ Newegg)
    Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($40.98 @ NCIX US)
    Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ NCIX US)
    Video Card: Galaxy GeForce GTX 660 Ti 2GB Video Card ($244.99 @ Newegg)
    Case: Silverstone SG01-BF MicroATX Desktop Case ($99.99 @ NCIX US)
    Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 450W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($42.99 @ NCIX US)
    Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.98 @ Outlet PC)
    Monitor: LG E2342V-BN 23.0" Monitor ($159.00 @ Adorama)
    Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
    Total: $1005.87
    (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
    (Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-19 00:20 EST-0500)

    all u need brother :P
  13. iceclock said:
    ok here.

    PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ym0u
    Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ym0u/by_merchant/
    Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ym0u/benchmarks/

    CPU: Intel Core i5-3470 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($149.99 @ Microcenter)
    CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper TX3 54.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($17.99 @ Amazon)
    Motherboard: ASRock H77M Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($69.99 @ Newegg)
    Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($40.98 @ NCIX US)
    Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ NCIX US)
    Video Card: Galaxy GeForce GTX 660 Ti 2GB Video Card ($244.99 @ Newegg)
    Case: Silverstone SG01-BF MicroATX Desktop Case ($99.99 @ NCIX US)
    Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 450W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($42.99 @ NCIX US)
    Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.98 @ Outlet PC)
    Monitor: LG E2342V-BN 23.0" Monitor ($159.00 @ Adorama)
    Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
    Total: $1005.87
    (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
    (Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-19 00:20 EST-0500)

    all u need brother :P


    If you are trying to cut costs, the first place you should is that 660 ti. The 7870 (and even the 660 to a certain extent) have THE SAME performance for much less cost.

    Edit: Also remove that useless cooler! The i5-3470 can't overclock so an extra cooler is pointless.
  14. So if the 7870 has equal performance, than can it run bf3 on ultra at atleast 50fps. Also where else can i cut the cost.
  15. zke12 said:
    So if the 7870 has equal performance, than can it run bf3 on ultra at atleast 50fps. Also where else can i cut the cost.


    Here is a reliable manufacturer that comes with a good game ($60 saved):

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150604

    Also get rid of that cooler since you are not overclocking.

    As for BF3. After overclocking (It is seriously very easy for anyone to do), I believe you could pretty easily play at 60+ FPS with x2 AA. In multiplayer idk what you will get but I would assume you would be above 50.
  16. terh 7870 is slower than the gtx 660ti check it:

    http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-660-ti-benchmark-review,3279-4.html

    7fps difference.

    on ultra 4-5fps difference. the 7870 is close to 40 and the 660ti is close to 49-50 :)

    in bf3.
  17. heres my revised case to save a few $$:

    PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ypk1
    Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ypk1/by_merchant/
    Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ypk1/benchmarks/

    CPU: Intel Core i5-3470 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($149.99 @ Microcenter)
    Motherboard: ASRock H77M Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($69.99 @ Newegg)
    Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($40.98 @ NCIX US)
    Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ NCIX US)
    Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7870 2GB Video Card ($209.99 @ Newegg)
    Case: Silverstone SG01-BF MicroATX Desktop Case ($99.99 @ NCIX US)
    Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 450W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($42.99 @ NCIX US)
    Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.98 @ Outlet PC)
    Monitor: LG E2342V-BN 23.0" Monitor ($159.00 @ Adorama)
    Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
    Total: $952.88
    (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
    (Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-19 11:44 EST-0500)

    Base Total: $1021.68
    Mail-in Rebates: -$30.00
    Total: $991.68

    :D
  18. If i put the 7870 instead of the 660 ti then would i have to change my motherboard or anything else named in the build specs iceclock or is the motherboard that i named at the beginning of the thread compatible with the mobo and other
  19. I saw your revised one and it seemed good but is there a cheaper monitor, and i think a 500gb fard drive would be good for me
  20. ok. let me do the changes.

    PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/yptE
    Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/yptE/by_merchant/
    Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/yptE/benchmarks/

    CPU: Intel Core i5-3470 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($149.99 @ Microcenter)
    Motherboard: ASRock H77M Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($69.99 @ Newegg)
    Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($40.98 @ NCIX US)
    Storage: Hitachi 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($55.08 @ NCIX US)
    Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7870 2GB Video Card ($209.99 @ Newegg)
    Case: Silverstone SG01-BF MicroATX Desktop Case ($99.99 @ NCIX US)
    Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 450W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($42.99 @ NCIX US)
    Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.98 @ Outlet PC)
    Monitor: LG E2211T-BN 22.0" Monitor ($129.73 @ Compuvest)
    Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
    Total: $908.70
    (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
    (Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-19 12:02 EST-0500)

    Base Total: $977.50
    Mail-in Rebates: -$30.00
    Total: $947.50


    should do it.
  21. I really appreciate your help. I'm liking the even more revised one but i got a question. Is there a cheaper case that's still good cuz im trying to get my price lower any way possible.
  22. ok, here:

    PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ypIE
    Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ypIE/by_merchant/
    Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ypIE/benchmarks/

    CPU: Intel Core i5-3470 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($149.99 @ Microcenter)
    Motherboard: ASRock H77M Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($69.99 @ Newegg)
    Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($40.98 @ NCIX US)
    Storage: Hitachi 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($55.08 @ NCIX US)
    Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7870 2GB Video Card ($209.99 @ Newegg)
    Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 450W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($42.99 @ NCIX US)
    Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.98 @ Outlet PC)
    Monitor: LG E2211T-BN 22.0" Monitor ($129.73 @ Compuvest)
    Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
    Other: htpc case Nmedia HTPC-7000B ($80.00)
    Total: $888.71
    (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
    (Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-19 12:29 EST-0500)

    Base Total: $957.51
    Mail-in Rebates: -$30.00
    Total: $927.51

    but thats about it, im not gonna suggest a junk case for a good pc :P
  23. K um i might sound stupid but what is an htpc and what does it do
  24. Never mind i know what a htpc is thank you
  25. Thank you soo much for all of your help.
  26. iceclock said:
    terh 7870 is slower than the gtx 660ti check it:

    http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-660-ti-benchmark-review,3279-4.html

    7fps difference.

    on ultra 4-5fps difference. the 7870 is close to 40 and the 660ti is close to 49-50 :)

    in bf3.


    Do you read your own reviews? The 660 Ti was on average SLOWER.

    http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-660-ti-benchmark-review,3279-17.html
  27. zke12 said:
    I really appreciate your help. I'm liking the even more revised one but i got a question. Is there a cheaper case that's still good cuz im trying to get my price lower any way possible.



    I have built a few PC's using this motherboard and it has IB support, overclocking, and PCIe 3.0 for $52:

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157315 (-$18)


    This case is the best value I have ever seen TBH. 5/5 and only $50:

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147166 (-$30)

    I just saved you $48. Anything else you want cheaper? ;)
  28. that was before the improved drivers dude.

    also that boards of lesser quality, caps are less good, less options, h77 is def champ here.

    with that case in mind. heres ur revised pc. saves u 30$ :D

    PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/yrop
    Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/yrop/by_merchant/
    Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/yrop/benchmarks/

    CPU: Intel Core i5-3470 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($149.99 @ Microcenter)
    Motherboard: ASRock H77M Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($69.99 @ Newegg)
    Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($40.98 @ NCIX US)
    Storage: Hitachi 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($55.08 @ NCIX US)
    Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7870 2GB Video Card ($209.99 @ Newegg)
    Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 450W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($42.99 @ NCIX US)
    Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.98 @ Outlet PC)
    Monitor: LG E2211T-BN 22.0" Monitor ($129.73 @ Compuvest)
    Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
    Other: Rosewill Mini-Atx Case ($50.00)
    Total: $858.71
    (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
    (Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-19 15:16 EST-0500)

    Base Total: $927.51
    Mail-in Rebates: -$30.00
    Total: $897.51

    but id still go with the h77 for features and board quality.


    cheers
  29. Thanks. I saw these A10 and A8 and other new amd processors that had a clock speed from 3.5 to to like 4.2 and i was thinking if i should get one of them? And if you think i should get it then which ones do you think is best that will give me alot of power
  30. zke12 said:
    Thanks. I saw these A10 and A8 and other new amd processors that had a clock speed from 3.5 to to like 4.2 and i was thinking if i should get one of them? And if you think i should get it then which ones do you think is best that will give me alot of power


    No. They are comparable to IB i3's and are definately not what you are looking for. You could consider an FX-8320 but then you would have to get a better PSU and Mobo and it really wouldn't game any better if even as well.


    Here I will list the final changes you can make to save money:

    -Go with the mobo I have chosen. There isn't a single thing it doesn't do that you would use. (-$18)

    -This is a great 900p monitor. No it isn't 1080p, but the difference isn't large and your 7870 will max everything on this! (-$25)

    http://www.amazon.com/HP-W2072a-20-Inch-LED-lit-Monitor/dp/B0085H66NU/ref=sr_1_10?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1358629588&sr=1-10&keywords=1600x900+monitor

    -I always get my hard drives from these guys and they never fail! (-$15)

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-500GB-32MB-Cache-7200RPM-Desktop-3-5-Hard-Drive-with-1-Year-Warranty-/150743476714?pt=US_Internal_Hard_Disk_Drives&hash=item231902e9ea

    -This is also where I get my OS's: (-$10)

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Microsoft-Windows-7-Home-Premium-64bit-Full-Version-SP1-/221071022937?pt=US_Operating_Systems_Software&hash=item3378dc1b59

    -This RAM is cheaper and just fine (-$5)

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820161452

    -The GTX 660 is very close to the 7870 and overclocks to a 660 Ti. However at 900p (Should you decide to) it will perform equally as well. Plus the slight drop in power use will be nice for your weaker PSU (-$15)

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100006519%2040000048&IsNodeId=1&Description=660&name=Desktop%20Graphics%20Cards&Order=PRICE&Pagesize=20


    Total Savings IF you listen to me is $88. Actually this build here is perfectly balanced. You will be able to max out every game in 900p with ease and your case will last you for 10 years. It isn't gonna get better than this unless you get a 7850. Please listen to reason...
  31. no, theyre made for home theater pcs not gaming.

    my final build is what u should go for :)
  32. ebay doesnt support rma id recommand against it. and the build i got is quite good that i chose thank you also 10years is quite long.
  33. I will listen to your reasoning for you are the professional and i really appreciate and thank you so much. This is as low as i will go for i am agreeing with you. Thank you soo much
  34. thanks zke12. captain tom has good points but im enlisted to be a computer technician in less than a week, and have over 15 years experience in computers.

    i only buy from ebay if i need something like a sound-card or videocard but for low-end builds.

    newegg offers rmas and ebay doesnt.

    hope u like the final build.

    PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/yrop
    Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/yrop/by_merchant/
    Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/yrop/benchmarks/

    CPU: Intel Core i5-3470 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($149.99 @ Microcenter)
    Motherboard: ASRock H77M Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($69.99 @ Newegg)
    Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($40.98 @ NCIX US)
    Storage: Hitachi 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($55.08 @ NCIX US)
    Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7870 2GB Video Card ($209.99 @ Newegg)
    Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 450W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($42.99 @ NCIX US)
    Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.98 @ Outlet PC)
    Monitor: LG E2211T-BN 22.0" Monitor ($129.73 @ Compuvest)
    Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
    Other: Rosewill Mini-Atx Case ($50.00)
    Total: $858.71
    (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
    (Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-19 15:16 EST-0500)

    Base Total: $927.51
    Mail-in Rebates: -$30.00
    Total: $897.51

    but id still go with the h77 for features and board quality.
  35. Ok thank you so much for the guidance, I really appreciate it!
  36. iceclock said:
    ebay doesnt support rma id recommand against it. and the build i got is quite good that i chose thank you also 10years is quite long.


    I said the case will last ten years. The things I listed have a 1 year warranty on ebay and I garruntee you they do have a decent return policy when it comes to massive sellers. Also the OS will work lol. So at least buy that...
  37. i still trust newegg. and major good online retails stores policies on return and rma,

    also 10 years yeah whynot, but who keeps cases for 10years, also yes u need an os.
  38. iceclock said:
    i still trust newegg. and major good online retails stores policies on return and rma,

    also 10 years yeah whynot, but who keeps cases for 10years, also yes u need an os.


    Look I guarantee all the parts I listed will work. If you say you want to give money to the place you usually give money then fine. But don't act like they aren't the exact same product.

    OP end this and make a decision. There is nothing left to debate here.
  39. that makes no sense.

    this thread was finished like 3 hours ago.

    peace
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