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First time BIY engineering student 1000 dollar Thanks For Help !!

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January 18, 2013 10:02:57 PM

First and foremost thank you for even reading this post. Ill start with a little about my self. I have cooked for most of my life and am now going back to school at the age of 26. I am a little tech savvy and need a new computer for school so i though i would give it a shot myself. I have a thousand dollar budget i can go a little over if there is some good persuasion. This doesn't include monitor that is a different discussion and any help on the matter would be appreciated(I have been looking at refurbs on newegg).I have my copy of win 8 pro and am ready for any help at all thanks again guys. Also if there are any computer engineers out there please let me know what i am in for i live in beaverton Oregon and trying to get on with Intel(school help what i should start learning and anything related to computer science i guess?)

Approximate Purchase Date:this week (the closer the better)

Budget Range: 1000-1200

System Usage from Most to Least Important:streaming future school work what that might entail i dont know? gaming(diablo3 starcraft elderscrolls in future)

Are you buying a monitor: yes but not included in budget

Parts to Upgrade: have 2 old pc's from 2006 dont really think anything is usable 2 80 gb hd dlink airplus g wifi card nuts bolts cases

Do you need to buy OS: No win 8 pro 64 bit


Preferred Website(s) for Parts: (e.g.: newegg.com tigerdirect.com frys.com

Location: City, State/Region, Country - portland oregon

Parts Preferences: by brand or type intel based pc

Overclocking: no dont want to risk it

SLI or Crossfire: no

Your Monitor Resolution: 1920x1200 best possible i think dont really know what this depends on

Additional Comments:D iablo 3 starcraft civ 5 elder scrolls when it comes out quiet is number one


Include a list of any parts you have already selected with descriptively labeled links for parts. Please do not post only links.

ASUS P8Z77-V LK LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard with UEFI BIOS
Model #:p 8Z77-V LK
Item #:N82E16813131837

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Intel Core i7-3770K Ivy Bridge 3.5GHz (3.9GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I73770K

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...




still debating whether i should go i5 or i7 please give detailed advice on this also what motherboard sdd hdd gpu psu optical drive and ram that i will need for this build

thanks again
January 18, 2013 10:20:34 PM

you can save as pocket money or buy an IPS led 23 monitor

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3470 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($188.79 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock H77M Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($40.98 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Samsung 830 Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($189.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI Radeon HD 7850 2GB Video Card ($179.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Rosewill Line-M MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 600W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $824.71
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-18 19:20 EST-0500)

i7 is for professional software, for daily usage/gaming it has no advantage at all
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January 18, 2013 10:23:57 PM

if you want 4 core and 8 thread, i7 is too expensive, there is ivy bridge xeon version at very low price (i dont know it is on sale or it is the actual price)

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1230 V2 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($232.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock H77M Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($40.98 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Samsung 830 Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($189.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI Radeon HD 7850 2GB Video Card ($179.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Rosewill Line-M MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 600W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $868.90
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-18 19:22 EST-0500)
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January 18, 2013 11:09:16 PM

@amd radeon: its always that cheap for the e3 1230v2

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/yjM7

to make it 4 bucks cheaper, price match the xeon for 228.99 at us.ncix. that way you dont pay for shipping
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January 19, 2013 12:16:31 AM

I forgot to put that I'm going to use the haf xb case and can someone tell me the biggest different in the 3 types of motherboards I think I want to use atx
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January 19, 2013 12:19:47 AM

whats the parts u need again. and ur total budget?

besides the case u own.

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January 19, 2013 12:27:38 AM

hrns4life86 said:
I forgot to put that I'm going to use the haf xb case and can someone tell me the biggest different in the 3 types of motherboards I think I want to use atx


there is no reason to go atx unless you need SLi in which you dont given the games you play arent that demanding. and the haf xb is huge btw. its 2x my hp desktop printer in height. wouldnt even recommend it
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January 19, 2013 12:31:57 AM

Don't have any parts just a couple of old pos computers from 2006 don't really know what you could use off of these. My biggest quandary is i5 or i7 I know I want ssd and at least 1.5 tb for data. What do you look for in a motherboard I have been looking at the asus p8z77-v series for mine. Again I want to use haf xb case
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January 19, 2013 12:36:13 AM

well whats the apps will u be using? any video editing or server running? do u require more cpu power than gpu, and and how much ram u need.

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January 19, 2013 12:38:25 AM

That's kinda what I'm asking you apps I don't know autocad and drafting in the future needs your input if you know what an engineer would need through school Thanks for tge help
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January 19, 2013 12:42:49 AM

hmm,

computer engineer:

he major technical areas of CPE:

Cybersecurity
Networking
Design automation
Machine intelligence
Computer software
Biomedical
Embedded Systems

unshur on what u guys gonna use.

but i guess developpement.

do u live near a microcenter?

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January 19, 2013 1:21:48 AM

yes microcenter.com

tell me if u have one in ur city cuz theres a great promo on the 3770k

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January 19, 2013 10:39:21 AM

hrns4life86 said:
Don't have any parts just a couple of old pos computers from 2006 don't really know what you could use off of these. My biggest quandary is i5 or i7 I know I want ssd and at least 1.5 tb for data. What do you look for in a motherboard I have been looking at the asus p8z77-v series for mine. Again I want to use haf xb case


i really dont see your argument for going with a full size board. the p8z77 v LK is the one id recommend most given it offers just the right amount of features for a pretty good price. the regular v, v-pro, v-deluxe are a total waste if you cant use every single of the features

i dont mind suggesting the haf xb. just keep in mind that you wont use half the space provided
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January 19, 2013 1:48:12 PM

No microcenter what size board would you guys suggest and a sleek case for it?
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January 19, 2013 3:49:41 PM

the extreme4 still uses analog pwm circuitry. a asus or gigabyte board of the same money has much better power delivery
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January 19, 2013 3:56:23 PM

well its a highly recommanded board, unless hes doing mega overclocking the electrical quality of the current to the board shouldnt be an issue.

only such things are important for crazy overclockers.

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January 19, 2013 5:54:11 PM

id still get a board with good caps nevertheless
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January 19, 2013 6:12:49 PM

the extreme 4 has decent design and solid capacitators.

id love u to show me evidence otherwise.

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January 19, 2013 6:20:28 PM

As a current student studying electrical engineering (pretty much the same as computer engineering) I would advice you NOT to get a gaming computer unless you have the self-discipline to bunker down and study. It might be a little different since you're 26 and have worked, but I have lost many friends to gaming during my studies. Engineering studies take a ton of effort .
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January 19, 2013 6:58:42 PM

iceclock said:
the extreme 4 has decent design and solid capacitators.

id love u to show me evidence otherwise.


decent yes. anything more, no. check the list of vrms in my sig. the extreme4 is only recommended for air overclocking and nothing more while the ud3h (xd3h is the same other than less fan headers and 2 less usb3s) is recommended for sub zero as well. not that you are going for sub zero, but its always better to have overbuilt components
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January 19, 2013 7:45:53 PM

like i said i agree u can get higher quality caps on a better card yes, and yes u can water cool the extreme4.

but getting higher quality caps will cost u more than its worth for ur standard oc.

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January 19, 2013 8:24:49 PM

i was kind of talking about the price before it dropped at 124.99. since it dropped, it doesnt matter much to me if you pick either one now
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January 19, 2013 8:31:15 PM

impaledmango said:
As a current student studying electrical engineering (pretty much the same as computer engineering) I would advice you NOT to get a gaming computer unless you have the self-discipline to bunker down and study. It might be a little different since you're 26 and have worked, but I have lost many friends to gaming during my studies. Engineering studies take a ton of effort .

am i the only one here finding this post is very important? :o 
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January 19, 2013 9:26:23 PM

this system is made for video editing. image manipulation, server software, u name it, it will run, for developping things u need good ram. not bad videocard, and good cpu.

doesnt mean hes gonna game also, when studying takes alot of time like in any discipline.

this computer will be useful tru his study and its in his own personal discipline he can game when he has time.

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January 20, 2013 12:13:37 AM

a gtx 660 can both game and do work
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January 20, 2013 12:15:18 AM

i guess but he doesnt really need to game. the 7850 is alot cheaper and fits in better with the 4core+4ht threads 3770k

and can game well also.

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January 20, 2013 3:49:31 PM

he isnt overclocking. a e3 1230v2 and a 660 fits nicely into the budget
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January 20, 2013 4:18:24 PM

good point, let me make those changes.

with the points that thebigtroll brought i made some changes to save u money.

and the xeon is just as performant as the 90$ more 3770,

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/yBlQ
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/yBlQ/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/yBlQ/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1230 V2 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($232.98 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($114.99 @ Microcenter)
Memory: Corsair XMS3 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($69.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Mushkin Chronos 240GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($169.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 660 2GB Video Card ($209.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Rosewill Challenger-U3 ATX Mid Tower Case ($60.57 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Rosewill Hive 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($22.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $1056.46
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-20 13:17 EST-0500)

Base Total: $1072.48
Mail-in Rebates: -$25.00
Shipping: $8.98
Total: $1056.46

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January 20, 2013 6:31:18 PM

-galaxy 660 is miles better in terms of cooling and is 10 bucks cheaper
-there are better cases like the 200R
-you really dont need that much wattage
-kingston ram from what i know is cheaper
-there are better SSDs for 20 bucks more
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January 20, 2013 7:04:49 PM

what ssd would u provide. also evga has 5 years warranty and great customer support.

650 is fine.

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/yDdX
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/yDdX/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/yDdX/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1230 V2 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($232.98 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($114.99 @ Microcenter)
Memory: Corsair XMS3 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($69.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Mushkin Chronos 240GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($169.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 660 2GB Video Card ($209.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case ($67.41 @ Mac Connection)
Power Supply: Rosewill Hive 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($22.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $1063.30
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-20 16:00 EST-0500)

got the carbon 300r case and replace for kingston the ram, ssd is quite fine.

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/yDgr
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/yDgr/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/yDgr/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1230 V2 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($232.98 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($114.99 @ Microcenter)
Memory: Corsair XMS3 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($69.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Mushkin Chronos 240GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($169.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 660 2GB Video Card ($209.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case ($67.41 @ Mac Connection)
Power Supply: Rosewill Hive 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($22.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $1033.30
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-20 16:04 EST-0500)

Base Total: $1059.32
Mail-in Rebates: -$35.00
Shipping: $8.98
Total: $1033.30

did the appropriate changes.
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January 20, 2013 8:16:25 PM

yes but you sacrifice most of your overclocking and 20c in temps. speaking of warranty, if i were looking for a long warranty, it would be PNY with their lifetime support

also note that xeons run cool enough. there is no reason to get a hyper 212 evo. with a stock cooler, id say max out 65c

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/yE6T
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January 20, 2013 8:17:47 PM

with that said in mind, i prefer cooler processors just a preference.

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/yE5K
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/yE5K/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/yE5K/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1230 V2 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($232.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($114.99 @ Microcenter)
Memory: Corsair XMS3 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($69.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Mushkin Chronos 240GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($169.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 660 2GB Video Card ($209.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case ($67.41 @ Mac Connection)
Power Supply: Rosewill Hive 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($22.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $1008.31
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-20 17:17 EST-0500)

Base Total: $1029.33
Mail-in Rebates: -$30.00
Shipping: $8.98
Total: $1008.31

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