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January 19, 2013 11:37:01 AM

I'm going to build a Gaming PC from scratch with a $1000 budget. But I don't have much experience choosing Motherboards. I'm afraid it might not match with the build and that's where I need your help! So let's do this by your rules:

Budget Range: $1000-$1100 Before Shipping
System Usage: Gaming
Monitor: No
Parts to Upgrade: [*UPDATED]
  • Processor: Intel® Core™ i5-3570K Processor (6M Cache, up to 3.80 GHz) [~$220]
  • Graphics: SAPPHIRE VAPOR-X HD 7950 3GB GDDR5 OC with Boost [~$330]
  • Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 [~$115]
  • Memory: G.Skill F3-14900CL9D-8GBSR [~$50]
  • Hard Drive: Western Digital WD Blue WD10EZEX 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" [~$70]
  • SSD: OCZ Vertex 4 2.5" 128GB SATA III MLC [~$120]
  • Power: XFX ProSeries 550W PSU [~$64]
  • Heat Sink: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing [~$30]
  • TOTAL = [~$999]
    OS: No
    Overclocking: Maybe
    SLI or Crossfire: No
    Additional Comments: I really want to know your ideas about the build (every single part) and as stated earlier, choosing the right Motherboard is a big deal to me. Also I would like a quiet PC. I won't bother you for Optical and Case. BTW, I took a look at System Builder Marathon, August 2012: $1000 Enthusiast PC and chose some parts from it.
    And Most Importantly, Why Am I Upgrading: For fun, I guess! (That and my old PC is turning into a fossil :)  )
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    a b 4 Gaming
    January 19, 2013 11:54:08 AM

    CPU and GPU are good.

    Motherboard, you can get the ASRock z77 Extreme4 for around ~$130, but since you're not gonna SLI/CF, and OC is a maybe, I suggest either a z75 or z77 Pro3 instead.

    HDD, I suggest a Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 7200RPM 64mb cache.

    This would be really easier if you provided your location so we can link you to stores with the best prices.

    SSD is bad, Agility series is known to have high failure rates. Get non-SandForce based drives, and at least 120-128gb capacity.

    Any good 500-550w PSU would be more than enough. Just make sure to get from reliable and quality brands such as Seasonic, Corsair, XFX, some Rosewill, PC Power & Cooling, some OCZ, and Antec.
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    January 19, 2013 12:01:20 PM

    Sassafras said:
    Here is something I came up with : http://pcpartpicker.com/p/yoh3

    Hmm... Nice build! I just read some reviews for ASRock Z77 Extreme4 Motherboard, and turns out it IS good. And G.Skill Ripjaws Memory is so pocket friendly. Thanks!
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    January 19, 2013 12:10:12 PM

    excella1221 said:

    This would be really easier if you provided your location so we can link you to stores with the best prices.

    Wow, thanks for your help. Just link me to Newegg.com or something like that.
    excella1221 said:

    HDD, I suggest a Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 7200RPM 64mb cache.

    That's ~$85.
    excella1221 said:

    Get non-SandForce based drives, and at least 120-128gb capacity.

    Any specific suggestions?
    Also something for a 2 x 4 GB DDR3 memory?
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    January 19, 2013 12:19:57 PM

    I don't recommend a GTX 670 or GTX 680. Nvidia can't compete with AMD in the high end GPU price brackets as all the Radeon Cards are cheaper or more powerful. I say you should get either a HD7870 "LE Tahiti" or a HD7950/7970 depending which is closer to what you're willing to spend.
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    January 19, 2013 12:43:08 PM

    Mastashake15 said:
    I don't recommend a GTX 670 or GTX 680. Nvidia can't compete with AMD in the high end GPU price brackets as all the Radeon Cards are cheaper or more powerful. I say you should get either a HD7870 "LE Tahiti" or a HD7950/7970 depending which is closer to what you're willing to spend.

    Thanks for helping, but I extremely doubt that:
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    January 19, 2013 2:04:17 PM

    whyso said:
    Why are you quoting benchmarks that are 8 months old? AMD drivers have improved a lot and the 7970 is slightly ahead of the 680 now.

    You got newer ones? I'd like to see them or any other sources.
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    January 19, 2013 2:20:15 PM

    The 7970 is WAY faster/better than the 670. It's even better than the 680 as well. Just trust tom's hardware, they even have an article about graphics cards for the money.
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    January 19, 2013 2:43:57 PM

    lukethebeast12 said:
    The 7970 is WAY faster/better than the 670. It's even better than the 680 as well. Just trust tom's hardware, they even have an article about graphics cards for the money.

    Well I DO trust Tom's Hardware, but I can't find proof for your claim! Please post if you found any.
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    January 19, 2013 3:08:03 PM

    whyso said:
    Why are you quoting benchmarks that are 8 months old? AMD drivers have improved a lot and the 7970 is slightly ahead of the 680 now.

    Found it! It's a newer one (November 16 2012):

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    a b 4 Gaming
    January 19, 2013 3:42:10 PM

    Mastashake15 said:
    I don't recommend a GTX 670 or GTX 680. Nvidia can't compete with AMD in the high end GPU price brackets as all the Radeon Cards are cheaper or more powerful. I say you should get either a HD7870 "LE Tahiti" or a HD7950/7970 depending which is closer to what you're willing to spend.

    Goes to show...some people don't know what they are talking about. People need to compare benchmarks/settings/games before speaking nonsense.
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    January 19, 2013 6:03:53 PM

    envy14tpe said:
    Goes to show...some people don't know what they are talking about. People need to compare benchmarks/settings/games before speaking nonsense.

    Sweet logic!
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    January 19, 2013 8:18:03 PM

    Quote:
    You're the one who doesn't know anything. The 7970 outperforms the 670 and performs very close to the 680 and it's cheaper than both a LOT cheaper than the 680. The radeon cards are cheaper OR more powerful in the mid range-high end brackets. You Nvidia fanboys can piss off.

    Please read this one more time:
    envy14tpe said:
    People need to compare benchmarks/settings/games before speaking.

    We're talking GTX 670 with a $400 budget, You got a better AMD alternative? Come back with evidence this time or don't bother at all.
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    January 19, 2013 8:25:02 PM

    I don't care what you spend your money on, you made a thread asking about advice and I gave you my advice. I don't have anything to prove to you so go ahead and buy the 670 if you feel it's better.
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    January 19, 2013 8:48:31 PM

    Ultimately it's your choice, but an overclocked 7970 beats the 670 (and 680).
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    January 20, 2013 12:32:58 AM

    snake68 said:
    Please read this one more time:

    We're talking GTX 670 with a $400 budget, You got a better AMD alternative? Come back with evidence this time or don't bother at all.

    You missed the point. I was agreeing with you. You had evidence that the 670 is better and I was seconding that.

    My comment was in reference to matashake15. He suggested the 7970 but it's much more expensive than the 670.
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    January 20, 2013 12:53:41 AM

    PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/yvc0
    Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/yvc0/by_merchant/
    Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/yvc0/benchmarks/

    CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-L12 37.8 CFM CPU Cooler ($59.98 @ Outlet PC)
    Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($114.99 @ Microcenter)
    Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($47.99 @ Newegg)
    Storage: Mushkin Chronos Deluxe 60GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($64.99 @ Newegg)
    Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ NCIX US)
    Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($297.98 @ SuperBiiz)
    Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Microcenter)
    Power Supply: Rosewill Hive 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($79.99 @ Newegg)
    Optical Drive: LG GH24NS72 DVD/CD Writer ($22.75 @ Amazon)
    Other: 3570k 230$ ($230.00)
    Total: $1078.65
    (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
    (Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-19 21:53 EST-0500)

    Base Total: $1081.66
    Mail-in Rebates: -$10.00
    Shipping: $6.99
    Total: $1078.65


    should do the trick my friend.

    7950 overclocked hits 7970 levels and that equalizes and somethimes beats the 500$ gtx 680 :) .

    best bang for bucks card atm is the 7950 def.

    also got u a good silent cooler, and silent case.

    ur all set to go :) 



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    January 20, 2013 1:18:53 AM

    envy14tpe said:
    You missed the point. I was agreeing with you. You had evidence that the 670 is better and I was seconding that.

    My comment was in reference to matashake15. He suggested the 7970 but it's much more expensive than the 670.


    It's not much more expensive, they are almost the same price and the 7970 blows the 670 out of the freakin water.
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    a b 4 Gaming
    January 20, 2013 1:22:17 AM

    well all depends. but for the price the 7970 is a better contender than the gtx 670 and when overclocked its mad fast. nvidia has cuda and adaptive vsync on there side thats about it.

    the best bang for the bucks card atm is the 7950 from ati and gtx 660ti at 245$ when u can find one on sale.

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    January 20, 2013 9:38:02 AM

    iceclock said:
    PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/yvc0
    Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/yvc0/by_merchant/
    Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/yvc0/benchmarks/

    CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-L12 37.8 CFM CPU Cooler ($59.98 @ Outlet PC)
    Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($114.99 @ Microcenter)
    Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($47.99 @ Newegg)
    Storage: Mushkin Chronos Deluxe 60GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($64.99 @ Newegg)
    Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ NCIX US)
    Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($297.98 @ SuperBiiz)
    Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Microcenter)
    Power Supply: Rosewill Hive 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($79.99 @ Newegg)
    Optical Drive: LG GH24NS72 DVD/CD Writer ($22.75 @ Amazon)
    Other: 3570k 230$ ($230.00)
    Total: $1078.65
    (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
    (Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-19 21:53 EST-0500)

    Base Total: $1081.66
    Mail-in Rebates: -$10.00
    Shipping: $6.99
    Total: $1078.65


    should do the trick my friend.

    7950 overclocked hits 7970 levels and that equalizes and somethimes beats the 500$ gtx 680 :) .

    best bang for bucks card atm is the 7950 def.

    also got u a good silent cooler, and silent case.

    ur all set to go :) 


    Thanks dude! Well I'm starting to consider 7950 after all. But have no experience in OC. Is it easy (and SAFE) to overclock 7950 to get 670?

    That cooler is silent indeed and just look at that CASE! :ouch: 

    Don't you think 650W is a little too much? I think 600W or even 550W will do it. Correct me if I'm wrong.

    BTW, CPU just got $10 cheaper :D 
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    January 20, 2013 12:19:38 PM

    snake68 said:
    Thanks dude! Well I'm starting to consider 7950 after all. But have no experience in OC. Is it easy (and SAFE) to overclock 7950 to get 670?

    That cooler is silent indeed and just look at that CASE! :ouch: 

    Don't you think 650W is a little too much? I think 600W or even 550W will do it. Correct me if I'm wrong.

    BTW, CPU just got $10 cheaper :D 

    OC'n is easy. Read a little online and try it slowly. I'm a noob overclocker but I have pushed my CPU safely and my GPU.
    At room temps of 15-22C, CPU overclocked to 4.4GHz, has max temp at 62C. GPU never exceeds 71C. All done with a
    $25 CoolerMaster Evo.

    650W is too much for your build. You only need 500W. (700W if you have 2 GPUs)
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    January 20, 2013 1:54:30 PM

    snake68 said:
    Just found this Memory:
    Kingston HyperX 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1866 [~$50]
    Any Ideas?

    No, don't.
    Intel voids warranties for any RAM running over 1.5v, and that thing needs 1.65v; 1866MHz is literally no different than 1600MHz in gaming, or even anything else so just get the latter.
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

    7950 is a good card as well, it performs slightly below the 670, but is a better overclocker and has higher VRAM and bus rate. If you can, I suggest getting the Sapphire Vapor-X version.

    Yes, a good 500-550w PSU would be more than enough for a single GPU system even with modest OCs.
    http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=59615

    Again, if you're not going to SLI/Crossfire, save yourself the premium on those and get the Pro3 or Pro4 instead.
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    January 20, 2013 2:54:16 PM

    excella1221 said:
    No, don't.
    Intel voids warranties for any RAM running over 1.5v, and that thing needs 1.65v; 1866MHz is literally no different than 1600MHz in gaming, or even anything else so just get the latter.
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

    7950 is a good card as well, it performs slightly below the 670, but is a better overclocker and has higher VRAM and bus rate. If you can, I suggest getting the Sapphire Vapor-X version.

    Yes, a good 500-550w PSU would be more than enough for a single GPU system even with modest OCs.
    http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=59615

    Again, if you're not going to SLI/Crossfire, save yourself the premium on those and get the Pro3 or Pro4 instead.

    I agree with your comments, except I'm wondering why a Pro3/4 instead of Extreme 4? I have the Pro 3 and I think I'm limited by the power phase(4+1). My 2500k hits a safe 4.4GHz, but a Extreme 4 should reach 4.7GHz. I don't care for SLI, but I want good overclock.
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    January 20, 2013 3:23:55 PM

    notpro 3-4 since they dont offer real sli or crossfire. 1 pci-express slot is 16x and the second is 4x i beleive, only thr extreme 4 will offer 2x16x ports for tru sli or xfire.

    also its true u need ram thats 1.5volts anything over voids the intel warranty as for the sandy-ivy memory is supposedto be maximum of 1.5volts.

    also yeah overclocking a 7950 is easy.

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    January 20, 2013 5:42:28 PM

    excella1221 said:

    Intel voids warranties for any RAM running over 1.5v, and that thing needs 1.65v;

    7950 is a good card as well, it performs slightly below the 670, but is a better overclocker and has higher VRAM and bus rate. If you can, I suggest getting the Sapphire Vapor-X version.

    Thanks for the notice!

    I think you mean this one. That's ~$330.
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    January 20, 2013 5:52:11 PM

    Thank you all for helping! I've updated the list on top.

    I hear SandForce is bad news, could you offer good a non-Sandforce 60GB\120GB?

    Also I need a cooler that can handle overclocking.

    Only ~$151 remaining!
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    January 20, 2013 5:55:33 PM

    sandforce issues have been fixed.

    PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/yCpS
    Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/yCpS/by_merchant/
    Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/yCpS/benchmarks/

    CPU Cooler: Antec Kuhler H2O 620 Liquid CPU Cooler ($57.99 @ Newegg)
    Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($114.99 @ Microcenter)
    Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($47.99 @ Newegg)
    Storage: Mushkin Chronos Deluxe 60GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($64.99 @ Newegg)
    Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ NCIX US)
    Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($297.98 @ SuperBiiz)
    Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Microcenter)
    Power Supply: Rosewill Hive 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($79.99 @ Newegg)
    Optical Drive: LG GH24NS72 DVD/CD Writer ($22.75 @ Amazon)
    Other: 3570k 230$ ($230.00)
    Total: $1076.66
    (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
    (Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-20 14:55 EST-0500)

    Base Total: $1079.67
    Mail-in Rebates: -$10.00
    Shipping: $6.99
    Total: $1076.66


    the rig i made for u has solid components u wanna go with this. and the cooler i got u will handle oc also.

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    a b 4 Gaming
    January 21, 2013 2:49:03 AM

    envy14tpe said:
    I agree with your comments, except I'm wondering why a Pro3/4 instead of Extreme 4? I have the Pro 3 and I think I'm limited by the power phase(4+1). My 2500k hits a safe 4.4GHz, but a Extreme 4 should reach 4.7GHz. I don't care for SLI, but I want good overclock.

    The only noticeable difference I saw between the two is that the Extreme3/4 can properly support SLI/Crossfire, and he stated that he's not interested in it. I didn't have the power phase in mind though, but yes it should definitely be considered if he wants to OC high.

    iceclock said:
    notpro 3-4 since they dont offer real sli or crossfire. 1 pci-express slot is 16x and the second is 4x i beleive, only thr extreme 4 will offer 2x16x ports for tru sli or xfire.

    I did say:
    "Again, if you're not going to SLI/Crossfire, save yourself the premium on those and get the Pro3 or Pro4 instead."

    Where does it say SandForce issues have been fixed? Last I heard was the implementation of Toggle NAND, which kinda helps with the issue with incompressible data, but no news yet for the BSOD problems. The only SandForce drive that fixed the latter is the Intel 520 with its firmware update, but I don't think it has Toggle NAND.

    snake68 said:
    Thank you all for helping! I've updated the list on top.

    I hear SandForce is bad news, could you offer good a non-Sandforce 60GB\120GB?

    Also I need a cooler that can handle overclocking.

    Only ~$151 remaining!

    The Hyper 212 EVO can handle up to 4.2GHz of OC, maybe 4.3 if you can make it w/o increasing voltage.
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

    As for an SSD,
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
    http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=67805&vpn=CT128M4SSD2C...
    http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=77218&vpn=MZ-7PD128BW&...
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

    Any of those would perform great.
    I personally have the Vertex 4 and it's fantastic, that and the 212 EVO should be right on spot with the remaining ~$151 budget.
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    a b 4 Gaming
    January 21, 2013 2:57:02 AM

    yeah i dunno there. depends on the drive but sandforce drives for the most from what i heard are fixed.

    PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/yIzh
    Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/yIzh/by_merchant/
    Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/yIzh/benchmarks/

    CPU Cooler: Antec Kuhler H2O 620 Liquid CPU Cooler ($57.99 @ Newegg)
    Motherboard: MSI Z77A-G41 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($79.98 @ SuperBiiz)
    Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($47.99 @ Newegg)
    Storage: Mushkin Chronos Deluxe 60GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($64.99 @ Newegg)
    Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ NCIX US)
    Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($297.98 @ SuperBiiz)
    Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Microcenter)
    Power Supply: Rosewill Hive 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($79.99 @ Newegg)
    Optical Drive: LG GH24NS72 DVD/CD Writer ($22.75 @ Amazon)
    Other: 3570k 230$ ($230.00)
    Total: $1041.65
    (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
    (Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-20 23:55 EST-0500)

    got u a hyper 212 evo+a larger ssd for similar price.

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    January 21, 2013 11:00:58 AM

    Finally I'm set to go! ~$999! :D 

    I'll buy this build in 1 or 2 weeks. It's a shame I have to choose only one answer as best. Again thank you all for sharing your ideas.

    Best regards to: excella1221, iceclock and envy14tpe.
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    January 21, 2013 11:02:42 AM

    Best answer selected by snake68.
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    a b 4 Gaming
    January 21, 2013 1:23:54 PM

    cheers dude. she deserved it. she knows her ssd i tell ya

    if u require more help dont hesitate to msg me cheers.
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    January 21, 2013 6:13:09 PM

    iceclock said:
    cheers dude. she deserved it. she knows her ssd i tell ya

    if u require more help dont hesitate to msg me cheers.

    ;)  Thanks man! I really appreciate your help.
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    January 21, 2013 6:13:50 PM

    no problem anytime.

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