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EVGA GTX 560 vs eVGA GTX 660 vs GTX 650 ti

Hello, you may have read my other post, But, Since memory express aint carrying the 560 ti any more. I was wondering if these 3 cards are good for these games:

NFS shift 2 (optional)
Garry's mod
Team fortress 2
Gt-Legends
Minecraft
Tekkit


If any of these work, would you point me in direction for the inbetween one. Beacuse im planning to try to stay 200$ or less.

Links:

GTX 650:
http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX41980

GTX 560 1gb:
http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX33583

Gtx 660 2gb superclocked:
http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX41583

PSU unit:
http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX24570

Any answers apreciated!
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  1. Well the 660 you listed is $230, so if you are willing to pay that get it. If you want to spend under $200 I would go with a 7850.

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125451
  2. So then, your saying the 660 is great for these games? beacuse, i forgot to add in:

    world of tanks
    combat arms....
  3. It may be overkill for those games, but if it is in your budget, I'd get a HD7870; if that's too pricey, a HD7850. The reason is, that one way or another, all of those nVidia cards (except the GTX560) are in some way crippled, and the GTX560 is weaker than the HD7850. It may be a narrow memory buss, or it may be gimped compute performance, but they're all crippled (or weak). Compute performance doesn't matter in today's games, but what if it does tomorrow? What if someone writes a better AI for games, or another engine, that needs compute performance? Those nVidia cards will fall flat on their faces. It isn't a chance I'd take myself, so it isn't one I'd recommend others take either. If you have a firm preference for nVidia, look for a GTX570.
    Your PSU is good for a pair of HD7870s, easily.
  4. Best answer
    Here this is taken from a recent comparison of all the mid to high end cards.

    "In a nutshell, the GeForce GTX 650 Ti is the best $100 - $150 solution, while the Radeon HD 7850 is the best $150-$200 option. Then the GeForce GTX 660 is the best $200 - $250 graphics card, making the GTX 660 Ti the best $250 - $300 option. From $300 - $400 we pick the Radeon HD 7950 Boost and when spending $400 or more the Radeon HD 7970 is our pick."

    http://www.techspot.com/review/603-best-graphics-cards/

    You can look at all the games they tested and select the one you think fits what you play/budget the best.
  5. Onus said:
    It may be overkill for those games, but if it is in your budget, I'd get a HD7870; if that's too pricey, a HD7850. The reason is, that one way or another, all of those nVidia cards (except the GTX560) are in some way crippled, and the GTX560 is weaker than the HD7850. It may be a narrow memory buss, or it may be gimped compute performance, but they're all crippled (or weak). Compute performance doesn't matter in today's games, but what if it does tomorrow? What if someone writes a better AI for games, or another engine, that needs compute performance? Those nVidia cards will fall flat on their faces. It isn't a chance I'd take myself, so it isn't one I'd recommend others take either. If you have a firm preference for nVidia, look for a GTX570.
    Your PSU is good for a pair of HD7870s, easily.


    You really think any developer would design a game where none of the nvidia cards would work on it very well? If they do switch to games that require more compute it will be well down the line when/if both companies have good support for it.
  6. It could be something optional like PhysX in the sense that it's not mandatory, but it definitely does add to the immersion and overall play experience. Personally, I'd give up a few FPS today to not lose that tomorrow. Here is another good reference: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-card-review,3107.html although it does not mention the gimping. The hierarchy chart at the end is a useful general reference.
  7. Onus said:
    It could be something optional like PhysX in the sense that it's not mandatory, but it definitely does add to the immersion and overall play experience. Personally, I'd give up a few FPS today to not lose that tomorrow. Here is another good reference: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-card-review,3107.html although it does not mention the gimping. The hierarchy chart at the end is a useful general reference.


    Tomorrow meaning years down the road when you will need a new graphics card anyway? Your logic is flawed but to each their own.
  8. Derza10 said:
    You really think any developer would design a game where none of the nvidia cards would work on it very well? If they do switch to games that require more compute it will be well down the line when/if both companies have good support for it.


    +1 to that. And disregard the memory bus argument - it's old, tired and the product of a lack of understanding. Check out the second post for an explanation:

    http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/378279-15-gtx660-7850-7870

    tl;dr? The 7800 series bus width gives no significant bandwidth advantage over the GTX660/660 Ti.

    The GTX570 is slower than the GTX660 and lacks memory compared to modern alternatives (1.25GB). GTX660 is my vote without a doubt.
  9. I think the best out of all those Videocards is the GTX 660, However with that price bracket I would swing for an AMD videocard like the 7950 or 7870 I know I said 7950 but I have seen them go on sell for 230$.
  10. Thanks guys! I will probably go with the 650 ti or the 660! :D
  11. Best answer selected by Xyloriuphon.
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