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January 19, 2013 8:59:48 PM

Hello community! i am in a bit of a pickle, I am going to build my brother a game desktop but finding parts in my area is not an option. My budget is about 600 dollars and with it i would like to be able to get the video card, cpu, computer case, ssd(for the os), power supply, and cooling for the cpu. I have 1 tb western digital hard-rive already. I would like this machine to be able to play high/med settings at a constant 1080p for all games. I would also like to leave some room for upgrades in the future. Now for parts-

I would like to be able to complete this goal by buying everything from tiger-direct, as i have one near my area. I live in Canada so parts would have to be from the .ca website. I was thinking of buying a bare bones package but not sure which to pick.

I know this is an limited request due to the restriction being tiger direct but if you can find my a solid build from somewhere else that would acceptable, but a lot harder for me.

http://www.tigerdirect.ca/

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January 19, 2013 9:10:43 PM

AMD FX 6300 $140
Asrock 970 Extreme3 $75
2 x4 gig of 1600 MHz DDR3 rated for 1.5 volts or less $45
Radeon 7850 $165
Case $50 Antec One gamer , Corsair 200R , HAF 912
500 watt psu 80+ bronze rated ~ $50
dvd drive $18
windows 8

IMO this is the best budget combination
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January 19, 2013 9:16:40 PM

At that budget, I'd drop the SSD. It's an unnecessary luxury and it'll eat up at least $75-100 of your budget. For gaming, that money would be much better spent on the GPU.


Edit: Lots of problems with the build - gotta resolve them, will repost.
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January 19, 2013 9:20:36 PM

@Outlander_04 Thank you for the input :)  Would their be anyway to incorporate a intel core i5 chip into such a build? I have only ever owned amd once and it was a very bad experience... I have no need for a DVD drive or the operating system.

@JMer806 Wow that is a very good build, i already have a copy of windows 7 professional given to me by my school, which graphics card do you suggest now? As well do you think it is necessary for a separate cooler for the cpu or should i stick to the stock?
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January 19, 2013 9:29:51 PM

change the motherboard to one with an H77 chipset or B75 chipset, and use an i5 3470

both will cost more than the AMD option [ which would work perfectly well ]
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January 19, 2013 9:34:02 PM

SSDs aren't really worth it IMO unless you have a huge budget. I haven't really noticed a huge difference between my SSD and my HDD. And I'd honestly still take Windows 7 over Windows 8 at this point in time.
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January 19, 2013 9:40:18 PM

Arsh231 said:
@Outlander_04 Thank you for the input :)  Would their be anyway to incorporate a intel core i5 chip into such a build? I have only ever owned amd once and it was a very bad experience... I have no need for a DVD drive or the operating system.

@JMer806 Wow that is a very good build, i already have a copy of windows 7 professional given to me by my school, which graphics card do you suggest now? As well do you think it is necessary for a separate cooler for the cpu or should i stick to the stock?


Sorry, I deleted the build from that. There were some problems with it:

1. Apparently TigerDirect didn't have that MOBO, so it didn't count it in the price. I agree with the above that you could drop to an H77 MOBO. I would suggest the i3 3240 since it's cheaper than the i5 3470 and just as good for gaming.
2. TD has only really expensive options for DVD drives. I would suggest using Amazon or Newegg and buying a cheap LiteOn, Samsung, or Asus DVD burner.
3. Due to the above, I gave you more GPU than you could afford.

So here's a new build that takes everything you've said into account, using only TigerDirect:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i3-3240 3.4GHz Dual-Core Processor ($157.28 @ TigerDirect)
Motherboard: MSI Z77A-G41 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($92.28 @ TigerDirect)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($56.28 @ TigerDirect)
Video Card: MSI Radeon HD 7770 GHz Edition 1GB Video Card ($129.99 @ TigerDirect)
Case: Cooler Master Elite 430 ATX Mid Tower Case ($53.27 @ TigerDirect)
Power Supply: PC Power & Cooling Silencer MK III 500W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($92.28 @ TigerDirect)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB/RSBS DVD/CD Writer ($37.28 @ TigerDirect)
Total: $618.66
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-19 18:39 EST-0500)

Buy the DVD drive elsewhere to save a few bucks. Price check everything, because TD charges shipping and Amazon is usually a cheaper option (plus it saves shipping) on everything. If you can save the money, go for a 7850, 7870, or a 650ti, which will all be better GPUs than the one I've picked.

Edit: Even though I agree about the H77, I put in a Z77 because it was the same price and it gives you better options for future upgrades.
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January 19, 2013 11:17:32 PM

Its definitely not worth using an intel dual core

The AMD FX 6300 games as well and is much much better everywhere else
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January 20, 2013 5:31:05 AM

Outlander_04 said:
Its definitely not worth using an intel dual core

The AMD FX 6300 games as well and is much much better everywhere else


I disagree - take a look at the benchmarks: http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/677?vs=699

The i3 is significantly better in single-threaded apps and significantly worse in heavily multi-threaded apps. Games are mostly the former. And in general, the difference isn't extreme.

Of course, OP could just take my build and pop in an i5 3470 (OP: This is a good idea, and the price is only about $30 higher). The 3470 beats the FX 6300 in every category but one in the benchmarks: http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/702?vs=699
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January 20, 2013 6:52:03 AM

JMer806 said:
I disagree - take a look at the benchmarks: http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/677?vs=699

The i3 is significantly better in single-threaded apps and significantly worse in heavily multi-threaded apps. Games are mostly the former. And in general, the difference isn't extreme.

Of course, OP could just take my build and pop in an i5 3470 (OP: This is a good idea, and the price is only about $30 higher). The 3470 beats the FX 6300 in every category but one in the benchmarks: http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/702?vs=699



There are very few game engines now that are single threaded . Its unlikely any future game releases will have that limitation

The FX 6300 at stock clocks produces gaming results within a margin of error of the intel dual cores . The difference would not be noticeable .
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/fx-8350-83...
http://www.techspot.com/review/586-amd-fx-8350-fx-6300/...
But unlike the intel the AMD FX can be overclocked , and once you have done that the intel cannot compete in games .
And as you have pointed out its also MUCH better pretty much every where else

The budget gaming champion is the FX 6300
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January 22, 2013 1:15:51 AM

The 3470 is better than either, though pricier.

Most games don't use much in the way of CPU. I saw Black Ops 2 benches the other day (can't find them right now but will search) comparing different CPUs. The i3s performed within a few FPS (less than 5) of even the i7.

Edit: Here's the article I read. The i3 3220 at 3.3 Ghz is at 97 FPS, compared to the i7 3770k at 3.5 Ghz is at 104. The FX 6200 (3.8 Ghz) is at 100.

http://www.techspot.com/review/601-black-ops-2-performa...
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January 29, 2013 9:37:13 PM

Best answer selected by Arsh231.
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January 29, 2013 9:37:51 PM

I have completed the build took about 5 hours lol... Alot of mistakes on my part thanks for all the help <3
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