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I'm at the point now where I'd like to piece out building a new computer to be a Entertainment and Work powerhouse. The one I have right now, the case I've had since 2004 and it's just time to move on. I've had enough of having okay to medicore hardware because it doesn't fit what I do. The goal is to have a machine that can handle Adobe's Catalagoue of software but mainly After Effects. I want a machine that can render out things quickly; a machine that is a significant improvement than what I have right now, that can handle my work related needs with lots of RAM and Video card power, and at night enjoy it for my entertainment needs.

I'm willing to post the links of the components and make sure everything is compatible. I would really appreciate if someone could help me with that. I'm pretty certain everything is but I want any recommendations I can get.

I want to first start by stating my current PC specs;

AMD Athlon 64x2 Dual Core 5000+ 2.6ghz
Kingston 3.25gb RAM
Windows XP (32bit version)
Western Digital 500gb sata
FOXCONN A7VMX-S/A7VMX-K/A7GMX-S/A7GMX-K motherboard

Now I was thinking of these for an upgrade;

ASUS Hudson D4 Micro ATX
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131883

My new case I'm getting is particualarly special because with this mother board being a Micro, the motherboard panel folds outwards, making it easier to access. However, if you know of a mother board that is better than this, rather it be Mid or Micro, TELL ME. I'd like to know of any recommendations you may have. I don't really care which type it is because my case will fit both but I liked this one in particular for a number of reasons, no on board video is a feature etc. I also liked this board for the onboard sound.

Zotac Geforce GT 630 Syndergy Edition 4GB PCI 2.0 x16
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814500255

Silverstone 500w Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817256061

AMD Trinity 3.8 (4.2 ghz turbo) socket fm2 quad core w/ Radeon HD video? (I've never heard of a processor being a a video card.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113280

x4 G.Skill 8gb 240p DDR3 1333 RAM (32gb)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231607

LG Sata BD-r x14 drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136250

Okay I hope I gave you guys a thorough idea of what I'm going for. Any help would be nice. Thank you.
 
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blake1243

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CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($129.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock 960GM/U3S3 FX Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($60.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Corsair XMS3 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($69.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Crucial M4 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($104.99 @ Microcenter)
Video Card: PNY GeForce GTX 660 Ti 2GB Video Card ($249.99 @ Dell Small Business)
Case: Fractal Design Core 3000 ATX Mid Tower Case ($74.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 600W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.98 @ Outlet PC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $905.87
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-19 23:30 EST-0500)

I don't know your budget so i just chose that lol. Also, the cuda cores are VERY helpfull in Adobe software. So you should REALL get a GTX 500 series, or GTX 600 series card. And the APU (FM2) CPU is really pointless if you are getting a descrete graphics. The 6 core AMD cpu i listed will be GREAT for rendering and all your other needs for only $130. I listen 16gb ram because, you might need it with after affects and other programs. If you don't have to the money for the 660 ti then just get a 650 ti or 650 it will be ALOT better option than just a 630 lol.
 
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That's a far better build. Me personally I'd leave the SSD off and invest the extra money in upgrading the GPU or the CPU but that is way better. For doing Photoshop you shouldn't even consider an APU - leave that for an HTPC. And that video card is pretty redundant.

This is what I would suggest:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3470 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock H77 Pro4/MVP ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($87.55 @ Newegg)
Memory: Mushkin Blackline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($47.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 660 Ti 2GB Video Card ($284.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 600W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($22.98 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $903.45
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-20 00:36 EST-0500)

I put a Core i5-3470 instead of an FX-6300.
 
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Hi, i don't know your budget but this might fit :

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CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1230 V2 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($232.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock H77M Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Kingston Black 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($70.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 550 Ti 1GB Video Card ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($44.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Antec 450W ATX12V Power Supply ($30.95 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB DVD/CD Writer ($15.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $600.87
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)


For your workload, i think it's best this cpu, it's basically an i7, and for video editing you need a better card, a 550 ti is at a good price, fermi cards are still better than most cards at the same range.
A 450w quality psu will prove to be more than sufficient.
Also for those needs, it's best to have 16GB ram.
All the best.
 
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http://pcpartpicker.com/part/xfx-power-supply-p1450sx2b9

getting a 12v rail would be better
 
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Hi, the antec vp 450 has a dual rail but it's a true dual rail, delivering the full load on both rails as promised(+12V1@18A, +12V2@18A), there's a review on hardware secrets, but it seems it's offline.
But the xfx 450w is also a good psu, i just put the cheapest 450w psu with quality that crossed my mind.
All the best.
 
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My opinion newegg for everything. All around they will have the best prices, as long as you don't have a newegg warehouse in the state you live in, no taxes and they have a lot of free shipping on parts.
 
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I don't really have a budget for this machine but at the moment I had an idea of around $900 plus OS, what do you guys think of OS? I was thinking Windows7 with this build.
 
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Absolutely. I totally agree. I bought this 2004 machine was from NewEgg actually. I also though about piecing this thing via the daily deals they have but that would be difficult to do and monitor.
 
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You can do way better than Raidmax - one of the worst brands you could pick. A similar design (but wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy better) would be the NZXT Phantom 410: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146087
 
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So overall, is the result that the rig I planned on buying wasn't going to suit my needs? From the feedback, it's telling me I don't know what I thought I knew. I'm ready to soak all this up.
 
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It's ironic because I came across that one and I passed it up. I just don't know what I'm looking at anymore I guess. Then I spot this video and I really like this one too. I just wish it came with a Power Supply.

I really would like one that came with a power supply and had a pop out like function to easily access the mother board. Think you can help me find one?
 
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Thanks for your help! I really appreciate it.

What jumped out to me was a solid state drive. What is that? Just another form of harddrive? It doesn't have spinning disc or bearing does it? I think that's what they are. Would you recommend put that as the primary and to install the OS on it? Boot time etc?
 
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I don't think the case you're looking for exists. The power supplies that come with cases are flat out junk for the most part. Screwing in a power supply to a case really isn't that big of a deal. You don't want to skimp on the power supply if you can possibly help it.

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/fract [...] cadefr4tiw

also a great case

or

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-case-500rwt
Click to expand...

Both of these are great suggestions. I have the 500R on my work computer and it's an excellent case. The Fractal Design Define R4 is also a good choice as well.
 
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Oh well. At least someone tells me it doesn't exist. The Corsair case; http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139010&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

.....I really liked after watching the video. I plan on moving forward with that one because it has so many options like water cooling etc. I'm glad to see it has tool-less mounts.

Thanks so much for pointing that out because that is a better value.
 
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The build form properbuild is ideal for your needs.. i just made some changes so that it would be closer to your budget like you said.. its actually a bit over your budget but its worth it.. i have added the psu suggested by boulbox.

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/yymi
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/yymi/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/yymi/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1230 V2 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($232.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock H77M Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($79.98 @ Outlet PC)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Intel 330 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($99.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 660 2GB Video Card ($209.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Zalman Z9 ATX Mid Tower Case ($31.98 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 450W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($42.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB DVD/CD Writer ($15.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $938.86
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-20 03:52 EST-0500)
 
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After really taking a look at all this. Both builds are great. I want a faster processor but the motherboard gUnit listed will allow me have more RAM. I'm really torn besides trying to go down another alley.

Is there a way to have a 3.5 or beyond cpu and have 32gb RAM? Hopefully that exists.

I guess really what I'd like to know too is for the video rendering and adobe products, are the 6 core cpus are better because the speed is increased or would the higher amount of RAM increase the productivity?

I don't think I understand which competent controls what. It'd like to know which has more influence on rendering performance RAM or CPU? or do you need both? Or will 16 be enough? Am I just obsessing over 32 because it's so much you'll never need it? I figure the more everything the better.
 
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I really like this build you put together. I may just buy a different case and keep everything the same. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139010

Add a blu ray burner too. Then later add water cooling. I'm really excited just need to commit to which way I'm going to go.

Thanks so much!
 
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I really want to stay around $900 but it really doesn't matter. I'm grouping the purchases over a few paydays. I don't need a monitor, I have a 42'' Samsung 1080p HDTV, HTPC logitech speakers and I just bought a HTPC wireless keyboard.

I'm at the end of the road with the last things to do which is upgrade my hardware.
 
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You are welcome :) .. if you are willing to push your budget further then i'd suggest getting the mobo that g-unit suggested and also the 600w psu.. xfx 550w is also a good option.. the case you selected is a really good .. its ok for aesthetic reasons but i'd spend more on other parts than on the case.. you can find a good case for around 75$.. and i don't see many people recommending a blue-ray burner mostly because its not worth it unless you actually need one.. otherwise a dvd burner for 25$ will do just fine.. but its entirely up to you what to get because you are the one going to use it.. do some research yourself and make sure everything is compatible for your needs.. best of luck and have fun building your 'entertainment + work powerhouse' :)

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/yBul
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/yBul/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/yBul/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1230 V2 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($232.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock H77 Pro4/MVP ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($87.55 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($79.98 @ Outlet PC)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Intel 330 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($99.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 660 2GB Video Card ($209.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 400R ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($53.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB DVD/CD Writer ($15.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $1015.43
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-20 13:34 EST-0500)
 
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