2 GFX Cards dead on an OEM HP Desktop.

[karlaleksander]

Mmkay.................. 2nd thread here and I still havent had a proper answer. So the problem I'm having is that 2 of my graphics cards have gone dead. The first one went under warranty and I had it replaced (First one was a 9800GT and the second was a HD4850 ) but since the rig is out of warranty I am currently very confused. So, here are the specs and the questions.

Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 @stock 2.4ghz
2x2GB DDR2-667
2x 500GB HDD (If i remember correctly they were by WD)
Some OEM Asus Motherboard
Graphics Card is currently a X3100 (I dont really consider it to be a graphics card)
460W Delta Electronics PSU

More detailed specs are at http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/Document.jsp?objectID=c01628464&lang=en&cc=us&taskId=101&contentType=SupportFAQ&prodSeriesId=3794173&prodTypeId=12454

1. Could I have a GTX650 or a HD7770 put in there?

2. Would the PSU work with the above graphics cards?

3. What is the best GFX card for ~140$?

4. What may have caused the graphics cards to die?

Karl

 

[ittimjones]

1.) yes

2.) yes/no, the minimum recommended PSU for a GTX650 Ti is 400W, I'm sure that a regular 650 wouldn't have a higher power draw than the Ti version. The HD7770 has a minimum recommended PSU of 500W.

3.) NVIDIA GTX650 Ti is the best for $140
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-card-review,3107-3.html

4.) bad luck?

 

[sammual777]

2. You can check the geoforce wiki for power consumption values; the 650 is rated at 70W, the 650ti at 110W. Add in 100W for your cpu (cpu-world.com), 50W for everything else. You could probably get away with a graphics card of 150-200W (gtx670 range).

4. The nvidia 8 and 9-series were terrible cards (google nvidia bad bumps). Some of those chips leaked into the 100 and 200 series. Again check the geforce wiki if you are interested; everything from g80-g96 is flawed. As for the ati cards. It's not uncommon for the memory on the cards to fail (happens with nvidia cards as well). They start artifacting and then eventually fail.

As for the best graphis card. I love my MSI 560TI hawks.

 

[sammual777]

2. You can check the geoforce wiki for power consumption values; the 650 is rated at 70W, the 650ti at 110W. Add in 100W for your cpu (cpu-world.com), 50W for everything else. You could probably get away with a graphics card of 150-200W (gtx670 range).

4. The nvidia 8 and 9-series were terrible cards (google nvidia bad bumps). Some of those chips leaked into the 100 and 200 series. Again check the geforce wiki if you are interested; everything from g80-g96 is flawed. As for the ati cards. It's not uncommon for the memory on the cards to fail (happens with nvidia cards as well). They start artifacting and then eventually fail.

As for the best graphis card. I love my MSI 560TI hawks.

 

[chugot9218]

Recurrent problems like this are often caused by a faulty/cheap/low quality PSU, I would look into replacing that first before you risk frying more GPUs.

 

[MC_K7]

Nobody has given you a "proper" answer as you say because nobody can know for sure what caused your cards to die. Could be bad luck like you got two bad cards in a row. It's very hard to prove that it's your workstation that caused them to die. But as a safety precaution I would change that power supply, I never heard about Delta Electronics before so I don't know how reliable their power supplies are. Changing for something more decent, like Corsair, Antec or Seasonic would be the way to go.

If you want to know what's the best graphics card at a certain price point please refer to Tom's Hardware graphics cards monthly reviews, here's the one for November for 115$ to 150$:

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-card-review,3107-3.html

 

[cowboyjack]

Mmkay.................. 2nd thread here and I still havent had a proper answer. So the problem I'm having is that 2 of my graphics cards have gone dead. The first one went under warranty and I had it replaced (First one was a 9800GT and the second was a HD4850 ) but since the rig is out of warranty I am currently very confused. So, here are the specs and the questions.

Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 @stock 2.4ghz
2x2GB DDR2-667
2x 500GB HDD (If i remember correctly they were by WD)
Some OEM Asus Motherboard
Graphics Card is currently a X3100 (I dont really consider it to be a graphics card)
460W Delta Electronics PSU

More detailed specs are at http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/Document.jsp?objectID=c01628464&lang=en&cc=us&taskId=101&contentType=SupportFAQ&prodSeriesId=3794173&prodTypeId=12454

1. Could I have a GTX650 or a HD7770 put in there?

2. Would the PSU work with the above graphics cards?

3. What is the best GFX card for ~140$?

4. What may have caused the graphics cards to die?

Karl

I've been building PCs for a very long time. I second Chugot9218.

Get rid of that Delta PSU before you go about trying anything else. There's plenty of brands that have been tested for quality here and are affordable. Companies like Dell & HP use a power supply that's tested with the stock configuration only and are built with very inexpensive components. Think of it as an investment and incentive towards building your own PC later on down the road.

The 12V rail voltage of that psu is probably much much lower than the listed 460W.

 

[karlaleksander]

Even I know this isnt the subforum for PSUs, but could i fit a LEPA B650-SA 650W PSU in there?
The link for the PSU is at http://www.lepatek.eu/b-series/. And I need to know will this PSU run a 660Ti with the mentioned setup ?