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January 20, 2013 4:09:32 PM

I'm thinking of purchasing HP Envoy Phoenix H9-1440T computer with the following specs:

Windows 8 Pro 64
3rd Generation Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3770K quad-core processor [3.5GHz, 8MB Shared Cache]
2GB Nvidia GTX680 [Dual Bracket; DVI, HDMI, DP & VGA via adapter]
12GB DDR3-1600MHz SDRAM [2 DIMMs]
2TB 7200 rpm SATA hard drive
No secondary hard drive (Can add latter)
Liquid Cooling Solution
Blu-ray writer & SuperMulti DVD burner
SuperMulti DVD Burner
Premium Wireless-N LAN card and Bluetooth(R )(2x2)
15-in-1 memory card reader, 4 x USB 2.0 (front), 2 x USB 3.0 (top)
No TV Tuner (Do I need this?)
Beats Audio (tm) -- integrated studio quality sound (Hopefully this has an optical out)
HP wireless keyboard and mouse with Win 8 keyboard

I have read one thread somewhere that Win 8 has compatibly problems with the cpu. Is that true?

With a 25% off coupon it cost $1,515.00. The coupon expires today. Let me know what you think. Should I pull the trigger? Many Thanks!

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January 20, 2013 4:34:26 PM

you can't get 12GB in 2dimms, so you are probably looking at 2x4 + 2x2, for the additional cost they should give you 4x4. you don't 'need' liquid cooling, and its cheap.

I would say it is maybe $300 overpriced even with the coupon. Given the shenanigans with the RAM i'd want to know precisely what PSU, not just 'a 600w' but make & model. For that price I'd be expecting an SSD in there somewhere either as an OS disk or as a caching drive. win8 will start quick even on a mechanical though.

No problems with win8 that I've seen.
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January 20, 2013 5:09:33 PM

This topic has been moved from the section CPU & Components to section Systems by Mousemonkey
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January 20, 2013 5:19:03 PM

Katacus said:
I'm thinking of purchasing HP Envoy Phoenix H9-1440T computer with the following specs:

Windows 8 Pro 64
3rd Generation Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3770K quad-core processor [3.5GHz, 8MB Shared Cache]
2GB Nvidia GTX680 [Dual Bracket; DVI, HDMI, DP & VGA via adapter]
12GB DDR3-1600MHz SDRAM [2 DIMMs]
2TB 7200 rpm SATA hard drive
No secondary hard drive (Can add latter)
Liquid Cooling Solution
Blu-ray writer & SuperMulti DVD burner
SuperMulti DVD Burner
Premium Wireless-N LAN card and Bluetooth(R )(2x2)
15-in-1 memory card reader, 4 x USB 2.0 (front), 2 x USB 3.0 (top)
No TV Tuner (Do I need this?)
Beats Audio (tm) -- integrated studio quality sound (Hopefully this has an optical out)
HP wireless keyboard and mouse with Win 8 keyboard

I have read one thread somewhere that Win 8 has compatibly problems with the cpu. Is that true?

With a 25% off coupon it cost $1,515.00. The coupon expires today. Let me know what you think. Should I pull the trigger? Many Thanks!


I agree with 13thmonkey, there are too many unknowns.

Ok, I took a look at the different options:

Memory:
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Memory

12GB DDR3-1333MHz SDRAM [3 DIMMs]

12GB DDR3-1600MHz SDRAM [2 DIMMs]

16GB DDR3-1600MHz SDRAM [2 DIMMs]

16GB DDR3-1600MHz SDRAM [4 DIMMs]

32GB DDR3-1600 DIMM (4x8GB) RAM


HDD:
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Hard drive

2TB 7200 rpm SATA hard drive

2TB 7200RPM SATA RAID 5 (3 x 1TB HDD)

2TB 7200rpm SATA RAID 0 (2 x 1TB HDD)

2TB 7200 rpm SATA 1st hard drive plus ExpressCache HP 16GB Disk Cache SSD

2TB 7200rpm SATA RAID 1 (2 x 2TB HDD)

3TB 7200 rpm SATA hard drive

256GB Solid state drive

3TB 7200 rpm SATA 1st hard drive plus ExpressCache HP 16GB Disk Cache SSD

4TB 7200RPM SATA RAID 5 (3 x 2TB HDD)


They don't list any info about the PSU, which from what I've learned about HP, is that you get the bare minimum and nothing more.

Did you configure this computer the way you listed it because I think you could do better but the PSU would still be a primary concern for me because the GPU and other devices are going to require some juice.

EDIT:


Just took a look closer at the memory configurations available. The 12Gb option you selected was for 2 DIMMs. That means that they would be 6Gb DIMMs. Don't think it would hurt but I would still be weary of it.
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January 20, 2013 5:29:39 PM

hedwar2011 said:

Just took a look closer at the memory configurations available. The 12Gb option you selected was for 2 DIMMs. That means that they would be 6Gb DIMMs. Don't think it would hurt but I would still be weary of it.


I've never seen 6GB dimms, i'm not convinced they exist.

3dimms for 12GB is a really bad idea for this system, for the i7 9XX's it would be fine as it's triple channel. Go for 8GB or 16GB.

To follow from your comments, not all 2TB drives are equal, i've 2TB 5900rpm drives in my server, but could could also use 2TB 7200rpm drives that would be significantly faster.

If I had time, i'd build it on part picker.
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January 20, 2013 5:31:30 PM

Mousemonkey said:
This topic has been moved from the section CPU & Components to section Systems by Mousemonkey


Hi Mousemonkey, not sure what's changed in the background, but normally a move would break the links, doesn't seem to have done it this time. :)  much better.
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January 20, 2013 5:31:32 PM

13thmonkey said:
I've never seen 6GB dimms, i'm not convinced they exist.

3dimms for 12GB is a really bad idea for this system, for the i7 9XX's it would be fine as it's triple channel. Go for 8GB or 16GB.

To follow from your comments, not all 2TB drives are equal, i've 2TB 5900rpm drives in my server, but could could also use 2TB 7200rpm drives that would be significantly faster.

If I had time, i'd build it on part picker.


I too was beginning to wonder about 6Gb DIMMs as I've not seen any recently. I usually don't go for box PCs unless they are a heck of a deal (and I'm too lazy to configure one) :) 
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January 20, 2013 6:03:44 PM

OK, I was way out in my build price, nothing extravagant = $1780
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/yCta
so sort the memory out to either 8 or 16 and you'll be fine, be aware that you may need to upgrade the psu at some point in the future, if you go SLI for instance, GTX7XX and GTX8XX you'll be ok probably.
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January 20, 2013 6:20:10 PM

HP ENVY Phoenix h9-1400t Desktop PC
C9D60AV#ABA

Windows 8 Pro 64
3rd Generation Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3570 quad-core processor [3.4GHz, 6MB Shared Cache]
2GB Nvidia GTX680 [Dual Bracket; DVI, HDMI, DP & VGA via adapter]
8GB DDR3-1600MHz SDRAM [1 DIMM]
256GB Solid state drive
No secondary hard drive
Liquid Cooling Solution
SuperMulti DVD Burner
Premium Wireless-N LAN card and Bluetooth(R )(2x2)
15-in-1 memory card reader, 4 x USB 2.0 (front), 2 x USB 3.0 (top)
No TV Tuner
Beats Audio (tm) -- integrated studio quality sound
HP wireless keyboard and mouse with Win 8 keyboard

I rethought the configuration given the advice given here. Thanks. I can add the hard drives latter. It has 4 dimms available. This computer would cost a little over $1,300.00.
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January 20, 2013 8:09:05 PM

no no no, 8Gb 1Dimm is a bad idea as well, 2dimms or 4 dimms on that platform so that you have have dual channel memory or 2 x dual channel.

you really don't need the liquid $50 air will beat $100 liquid and be quieter. Get the 3570K as well, else you cannot OC.
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