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NON-overclocking gaming build needs help - 800$ish dollars

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January 21, 2013 4:37:21 AM

Hello,

I have been working on a gaming build and would love some help improving it - this is for a solid non overclocking build

Here is info: This is for a gaming computer

Gaming types - mostly MMO's....rpgs (dont play fps's much) - currently playing GW2 and diablo 3
Overclocking - No overclocking
Purchase from - Newegg (US)
Need OS - No
Monitor - No
Resolution of current monitor - 1920x1080
Cost - I would like to spend around 800$....BUT if spending more or less will help a lot I am able

Build 1 - Based this build off of a lot of reading without thinking much about what components mesh with what. I want to have 16GB (2 sticks in case i want to add more later for 32)

NZXT Tempest 210 CA-TP210-01 Black Steel / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - 45$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Seagate Barracuda ST31000524AS 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive - 80$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

EVGA SuperClocked GeForce GTX 660 2GB 192-bit GDDR5 PCI Exp 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card - 230$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

SeaSonic M12II 620 Bronze 620W ATX12V V2.3 / EPS 12V V2.91 SLI Ready 80 PLUS BROCertified Modular Power Supply -80$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-1600C9D-16GXM -80$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

ASUS P8Z77-V LK LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard with UEFI BIOS - 140$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I53570K - 230$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 EVO RR-212E-20PK-R2 Continuous Direct Contact 120mm Sleeve CPU Cooler Compatible with latest Intel ... - 30$

TOTAL - 923

Build 2 from a different thread by admbaustista....the prices arent all from newegg so I assume it will be a bit more...but want to compare performance. I saw this as I was making mine and thought it looked pretty good. Are Radeon cards really that much better for the price than nvidia?


CPU: Intel Core i5-3470 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($149.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard: ASRock H77M Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($40.98 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($309.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Vulcan Black MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($69.94 @ Mwave)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($51.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB DVD/CD Writer ($15.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $778.85

Again I will not be overclocking..I want a really good solid computer that I dont have to mess with much for 5 or so years

Thanks for any help anyone can offer. Hope this all makes sense..hehe

Cheers
a b B Homebuilt system
a c 318 4 Gaming
January 21, 2013 4:44:00 AM

vote for build #2 at the bottom :)  with a lillte more improvement on radeon card

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3470 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($149.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard: ASRock H77M Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Mushkin Blackline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($35.57 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card ($359.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 600W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $770.51
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-21 01:47 EST-0500)
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a b B Homebuilt system
a c 318 4 Gaming
January 21, 2013 4:49:12 AM

or go with nvidia card instead :) 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3470 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($149.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard: ASRock H77M Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Mushkin Blackline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($35.57 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: PNY GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($299.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 600W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $710.51
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-21 01:49 EST-0500)
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a b 4 Gaming
January 21, 2013 4:55:01 AM

AMD Radeon said:
or go with nvidia card instead :) 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3470 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($149.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard: ASRock H77M Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Mushkin Blackline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($35.57 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: PNY GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($299.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 600W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $710.51
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-21 01:49 EST-0500)


Thats a very nice build.
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January 21, 2013 5:03:06 AM

Thanks for the replies AMD Radeon...I like the price drop for sure!

A few questions

1 - CPU - what is the main diff between the I5-3470 3.2 vs i5 3570k 3.4 Ghz. is the 70$ difference really there just for overclocking?

2 - Mobo - I never considered a mini mobo....so the difference there is it will only handle 1 video card and only has 2 memory slots right?

3 - GPU - Either of these better without overclocking? between the nvidia or radeon? overheating etc?

4 - Case - I like that case but the one I listed NZXT Tempest 210 CA-TP210-01 Black Steel / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - 45$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811146084

has a USB in front for only 45$...(my only reason I know its pathetic ) am i missing something or does it matter

5 - Memory - Ive been told to get 16gb of memory...by someone who knows more than me but that isnt sayuing much.....is the memory I picked out work with the systems?

Thanks again....im learning and learning.

Dholio
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a b B Homebuilt system
a c 318 4 Gaming
January 21, 2013 5:10:18 AM

1 - CPU - what is the main diff between the I5-3470 3.2 vs i5 3570k 3.4 Ghz. is the 70$ difference really there just for overclocking?
exactly, and mini speed bump, different iGPU but it wont be used anyway

2 - Mobo - I never considered a mini mobo....so the difference there is it will only handle 1 video card and only has 2 memory slots right?
oh yeah, you can always choose ATX version for a little more, 10-20 bucks

3 - GPU - Either of these better without overclocking? between the nvidia or radeon? overheating etc?
normally, both are best at their pricing. but amd has OC potential like a beast
personally if i am not going to OC, there is ONE sweetspot i should get : PNY 670 2GB as it is really cheap 299. far below 7970/any 670

4 - Case - I like that case but the one I listed NZXT Tempest 210 CA-TP210-01 Black Steel / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - 45$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811146084

has a USB in front for only 45$...(my only reason I know its pathetic ) am i missing something or does it matter

go with any case you like :)  no compatibility issue

5 - Memory - Ive been told to get 16gb of memory...by someone who knows more than me but that isnt sayuing much.....is the memory I picked out work with the systems?
8Gb is plenty for game/doing anything else. only pro geek need 16Gb above

Thanks again....im learning and learning.
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a b B Homebuilt system
a c 318 4 Gaming
January 21, 2013 5:15:16 AM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3470 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Pro3 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($87.55 @ Newegg)
Memory: Mushkin Blackline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($35.57 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: PNY GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($299.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: NZXT Source 210 Elite (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 600W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $766.07
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-21 02:14 EST-0500)

fixed mobo atx and case, and normal i5 price (not microcenter)
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January 21, 2013 6:43:47 AM

That is looking really good AMD Radeon

The only thing giving me pause is the GPU at the moment. Looking at the heiarchy chart the 670 is 1 above the 660ti and 2 above the 660

based off this heiarchy chart http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-car...

The GTX 670 ranges from 320$ to 400$ (ill be buying on newegg)

660 Tis go for a little cheaper while 660s are around 100$s cheaper

The equivelent Radeons are as follows

7950 (670 equiv) - around 300$...pretty comparable here so if the 670 is better id go with that for a little more $

7870 (660ti equiv) is between 210-250....

7850 (660 eqiv) - is around 200

I guess what I'm trying to figure out is how much do I really need...with the components you list am I going to see a 100$ difference between the 660 and the 670/660ti?

Another thing that confuses me is the radeons....a lot of the forums compare radeon to nvidia based off of overclocking...if i am not going to be overclocking does that heirachy chart still apply? Maybe i need to just find a basic guide to radeon vs nvidia...but so much to read!

Also I am mostly playing games like Guild wars 2...wow...diablo 3...torchlight...does this change your opinion on anything?

I def feel like i am really close! You have been great

Cheers

Dan

p.s. bedtime ill check in tomorrow! :) 
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