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January 21, 2013 7:09:31 PM

Hi all,
I'm starting my first PC build sometime this year, and I need some advice on my component choice.
I'm building this gaming PC based on the Arma 3 Specs and I want to know if there are any parts that are cheaper for value, not reliable or won't be compatible... Also, if you have any suggestions on what monitor I should buy (preferably 24" and 1080p) it will be very welcome.

Here is a list of my components...

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K (Ivy Bridge) 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor
CPU Cooler: Arctic Cooling UCACO-FZ13100-BL 4.0 CFM Ball Bearing CPU Cooler
Motherboard: Asus SABERTOOTH Z77 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7870 Black Edition
Case: Cooler Master HAF X ATX Full Tower Case
Power Supply: Antec High Current Gamer 520W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B3ST/BLK/G/AS DVD/CD Writer
OS: Windows 7 Home Premium (64-bit) SP1

Also, do I need a better power supply and CPU cooler? Are there any others you recommend?

In addition, does anyone know of any other places to purchase the Black Edition XFX card? I can only find them here:
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/2gb-xfx-radeon-hd-7870-d...

Thanks! :D 
January 21, 2013 7:12:03 PM

whats ur maximum budget and do u need keyboard and mouse?

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January 21, 2013 7:15:58 PM

Get a better psu and a cheaper case, drop that overpriced mobo, invest more on the gpu, get a 7950...
Something like this :

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£158.99 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U9B SE2 37.9 CFM CPU Cooler (£37.49 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-D3H ATX LGA1155 Motherboard (£95.07 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£34.51 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£67.68 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card (£219.98 @ Novatech)
Case: Corsair 400R ATX Mid Tower Case (£78.89 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: XFX 750W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply (£79.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer (£12.98 @ Scan.co.uk)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) (£69.83 @ CCL Computers)
Total: £855.41
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)


If you can add a sdd, the better : http://pcpartpicker.com/uk/part/sandisk-internal-hard-d... or

http://pcpartpicker.com/uk/part/a-data-internal-hard-dr...
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January 21, 2013 7:17:12 PM

iceclock said:
whats ur maximum budget and do u need keyboard and mouse?


I've already got a Microsoft Sidewinder keyboard (that'll do for me) and a mouse (don't know what type though :??:  )...
My budget is around $2000 NZD, so around $1,671 USD.
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January 21, 2013 7:25:06 PM

Check this :

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($315.00 @ Computer Lounge)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($56.35 @ PB Technologies)
Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V LK ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($219.00 @ Computer Lounge)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($93.90 @ Ascent Technology)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($133.00 @ PC Force)
Storage: Intel 330 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($149.00 @ Computer Lounge)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($487.00 @ Paradigm PCs)
Case: Corsair 400R ATX Mid Tower Case ($170.89 @ Ascent Technology)
Power Supply: FSP Group 750W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($174.13 @ Ascent Technology)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-222BB/RSBS DVD/CD Writer ($35.21 @ Aquila Technology)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($152.04 @ Ascent Technology)
Total: $1985.52
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)


All from NZ, including ssd.
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January 21, 2013 7:26:19 PM

djangoringo said:
Get a better psu and a cheaper case, drop that overpriced mobo, invest more on the gpu, get a 7950...
Something like this :

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£158.99 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U9B SE2 37.9 CFM CPU Cooler (£37.49 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-D3H ATX LGA1155 Motherboard (£95.07 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£34.51 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£67.68 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card (£219.98 @ Novatech)
Case: Corsair 400R ATX Mid Tower Case (£78.89 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: XFX 750W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply (£79.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer (£12.98 @ Scan.co.uk)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) (£69.83 @ CCL Computers)
Total: £855.41
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)


If you can add a sdd, the better : http://pcpartpicker.com/uk/part/sandisk-internal-hard-d... or

http://pcpartpicker.com/uk/part/a-data-internal-hard-dr...


Thanks,
Any other suggestions on the PSU and Optical Drives? I can't get the XFX or LiteOn ones where I am(New Zealand)...

Also, what is better? XFX or any other Radeon producer? I seem to trust XFX more...
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January 21, 2013 7:29:33 PM

BlackMatrix said:
Thanks,
Any other suggestions on the PSU and Optical Drives? I can't get the XFX or LiteOn ones where I am(New Zealand)...

Also, what is better? XFX or any other Radeon producer? I seem to trust XFX more...



Check the other list, its all in new zealand with a gigabyte 7950 windforce 3x, one of the best models for it.
The fsp aurum 750w gold modular assures that you can do two 7950 in crossfire.
These two are also good :

http://pcpartpicker.com/nz/part/corsair-power-supply-cm...
http://pcpartpicker.com/nz/part/antec-power-supply-hcg9...
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January 21, 2013 7:36:24 PM

djangoringo said:
Check the other list, its all in new zealand with a gigabyte 7950 windforce 3x, one of the best models for it.
The fsp aurum 750w gold modular assures that you can do two 7950 in crossfire.
These two are also good :

http://pcpartpicker.com/nz/part/corsair-power-supply-cm...
http://pcpartpicker.com/nz/part/antec-power-supply-hcg9...


Since I can get both a Gigabyte GA-Z77X-D3H mobo and an Asus P8Z77-V LK mobo, which should I choose? Both you have suggested to me. Also, if I am able to get an XFX 7950, should I take that instead of the Gigabyte? Thanks!
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January 21, 2013 7:43:22 PM

If it's at a lower price, then get the xfx, but if it's at the same price get the gigabyte one, it's better.
As for the motherboard, both are good ones, see what's the cheapest and get the one, both have two pcie 3.0 slots, quality and digital pwm.
In my opinion, i rather get the asus one.
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January 21, 2013 7:45:25 PM

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/nz/p/yPSP
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/nz/p/yPSP/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/nz/p/yPSP/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($353.17 @ Ascent Technology)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($64.03 @ Ascent Technology)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($210.45 @ Ascent Technology)
Memory: Kingston 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($87.43 @ Ascent Technology)
Storage: OCZ Vertex 3 Series – MAX IOPS Edition 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($159.63 @ Ascent Technology)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($511.33 @ Ascent Technology)
Case: Antec Three Hundred Two ATX Mid Tower Case
Power Supply: FSP Group 750W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($174.13 @ Ascent Technology)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-222BB/RSBS DVD/CD Writer ($46.79 @ Ascent Technology)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($152.04 @ Ascent Technology)
Total: $1759.00
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-22 10:45 NZDT+1300)

all from same site :D 

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January 21, 2013 7:53:20 PM

OK, I've rearranged my list, and this is what it looks like...

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/nz/p/yPXM
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/nz/p/yPXM/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/nz/p/yPXM/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($315.00 @ Computer Lounge)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($56.35 @ PB Technologies)
Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V LK ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($219.00 @ Computer Lounge)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($96.54 @ Ascent Technology)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($192.00 @ PC Force)
Storage: Intel 330 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($149.00 @ Computer Lounge)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($487.00 @ Paradigm PCs)
Case: Corsair 400R ATX Mid Tower Case ($170.89 @ Ascent Technology)
Power Supply: FSP Group 750W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($174.13 @ Ascent Technology)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B3ST/BLK/G/AS DVD/CD Writer ($51.00 @ Paradigm PCs)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($152.04 @ Ascent Technology)
Total: $2062.95
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-22 10:52 NZDT+1300)

What do you think?
Also, do you recommend any monitors?
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January 21, 2013 11:00:27 PM

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/nz/p/yS50
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/nz/p/yS50/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/nz/p/yS50/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($315.00 @ Computer Lounge)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($56.35 @ PB Technologies)
Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V LK ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($219.00 @ Computer Lounge)
Memory: Kingston 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($87.43 @ Ascent Technology)
Storage: OCZ Vertex 3 Series – MAX IOPS Edition 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($159.84 @ PB Technologies)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($133.00 @ PC Force)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($487.00 @ Paradigm PCs)
Case: Corsair 400R ATX Mid Tower Case ($170.89 @ Ascent Technology)
Power Supply: FSP Group 750W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($174.13 @ Ascent Technology)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B3ST/BLK/G/AS DVD/CD Writer ($51.00 @ Paradigm PCs)
Monitor: Samsung S23A300B 23.0" Monitor ($226.00 @ Paradigm PCs)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($152.04 @ Ascent Technology)
Total: $2231.68
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-22 13:57 NZDT+1300)

gave u a few bucks cheaper memory just as good, also the ssd i chose is faster and better.

got u a decent monitor.

2tb instead to save money :) 

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January 21, 2013 11:25:33 PM

Those ips mentioned are 5ms gray to gray.
The ocz vertex has a high rate failure, and it's not faster than the intel ssd, in my opinion he will save some bucks.
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January 21, 2013 11:53:05 PM

actually the failure rate was before, theyve improved alot, less failure as of a while now.

heres the revised build with same components but 23inch 1ms ips panel.

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/nz/p/ySIB
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/nz/p/ySIB/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/nz/p/ySIB/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($315.00 @ Computer Lounge)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($56.35 @ PB Technologies)
Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V LK ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($219.00 @ Computer Lounge)
Memory: Kingston 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($87.43 @ Ascent Technology)
Storage: OCZ Vertex 3 Series – MAX IOPS Edition 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($159.84 @ PB Technologies)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($133.00 @ PC Force)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($487.00 @ Paradigm PCs)
Case: Corsair 400R ATX Mid Tower Case ($170.89 @ Ascent Technology)
Power Supply: FSP Group 750W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($174.13 @ Ascent Technology)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B3ST/BLK/G/AS DVD/CD Writer ($51.00 @ Paradigm PCs)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($152.04 @ Ascent Technology)
Other: 23 inch lg ips flatpanel with 1ms response time ($330.00)
Total: $2335.68
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-22 14:52 NZDT+1300)

Total: $2335.68

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January 30, 2013 3:21:04 AM

Okay, thanks a lot both of you! I've upped my ante by deciding to get a Corsair Stryker case and I'm trying to decide between a GTX 680 or a Radeon HD 7970 (wish I could get the 7990!). I truly cannot decide the best answer as you have both been very helpful and have given me some great advice. I'll just pick the last as best answer (don't get excited iceclock) as I picked from random. Thanks a heap and I will for sure use your advice in my build.

P.S. do you have any suggestions for the GPU? 7970 or 680?
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January 30, 2013 3:21:52 AM

Best answer selected by BlackMatrix.
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