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January 21, 2013 11:24:34 PM

Just looking for some feedback on my next build.

Will be purchasing and building in the next 30 days.

I have no need for monitors, as I'm reusing my 24" Asus monitor.

I'll be using this machine for heavy gaming, and some light video recording/editing (and if my ISP gets their act together, streaming)

I intend to do some light to medium overclocking on the processor, but chose the GPU that I did so I didn't have to worry about OC'ing it myself. I also intend to SLI this GPU in the future when this one begins to fall off, which is why I chose a PSU larger than my current power needs.

I'll be using the large hard drive for day to day data/video/music storage and the SSD for ultra-high performance tasks like gaming.

Please provide any opinion you have on the build, I appreciate any and all comments. I'm not worried about saving money - I sprung for some of the parts I did for ease of use, future-proofing or just because I'm a fanboy. I'm also not extremely worried about getting every single ounce of performance from the parts - I build and tweak as a hobby not a profession so I'm not likely to worry about overclocking more than a medium amount. Too much fiddling with voltages and worrying about temps will drive me up a wall :p 

Thanks in advance for any feedback.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($329.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($124.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($104.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 512GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($519.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 680 4GB Video Card ($569.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master HAF X ATX Full Tower Case ($209.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair 860W 80 PLUS Platinum Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($235.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($24.98 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Keyboard: Corsair Vengeance K60 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Mouse: Cooler Master SGM-4000-KLLN1-GP Wired Laser Mouse ($52.98 @ Newegg)
Other: Case fan (for top of case, not included with case) ($19.99)
Other: Arctic Silver 5 thermal compound ($9.99)
Other: Logitech G930 USB Circumaural Wireless Gaming Headset ($119.99)
Total: $2630.80
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-21 20:16 EST-0500)

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January 21, 2013 11:31:44 PM

If your planning to do video editing an i7 might come in handy and 16GB, also a mobo with SLI support and psu for it, and the best card for gaming :

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($309.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V LK ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($124.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($79.98 @ Outlet PC)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Samsung 830 Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($194.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 830 Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($194.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($379.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Phantom (Black/Orange) ATX Full Tower Case ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: PC Power & Cooling Silencer Mk II 950W 80 PLUS Silver Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($109.22 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.98 @ Outlet PC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $1719.08
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)


Edit : i see you listed the parts, no point in getting a 680 gtx, a 670 gtx performs about the same, it has a better value, also if you want 512GB ssd, just get the samsung 830 256GB in raid.
That psu is overpriced, this one is of good quality with 950w, which is more than plenty.
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January 21, 2013 11:35:46 PM

djangoringo said:
If your planning to do video editing an i7 might come in handy and 16GB, also a mobo with SLI support and psu for it, and the best card for gaming :

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($309.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V LK ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($124.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($79.98 @ Outlet PC)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Samsung 830 Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($194.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 830 Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($194.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($379.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Phantom (Black/Orange) ATX Full Tower Case ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: PC Power & Cooling Silencer Mk II 950W 80 PLUS Silver Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($109.22 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.98 @ Outlet PC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $1719.08
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)


Edit : i see you listed the parts, no point in getting a 680 gtx, a 670 gtx performs about the same, it has a better value, also if you want 512GB ssd, just get the samsung 830 256GB in raid.



Sorry, perhaps you saw the thread before I had edited in my pcpartpicker.com links. Sorry about the confusion. Could you provide feedback on the build that I've posted?
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January 21, 2013 11:40:43 PM

In my opinion get two samsung 830 256GB for less than 400$.
The pc power and cooling with 950w is the best psu for it's price, i'd get that and save some $.
A 2TB seagate is better in my opinion better than a 1TB hdd.
Like i said a 670 gtx is a better value, you can get two for much less.
That case is expensive, but it's your choice.
In my opinion the asus mobo is better.
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January 21, 2013 11:52:07 PM

djangoringo said:
In my opinion get two samsung 830 256GB for less than 400$.
The pc power and cooling with 950w is the best psu for it's price, i'd get that and save some $.
A 2TB seagate is better in my opinion better than a 1TB hdd.
Like i said a 670 gtx is a better value, you can get two for much less.
That case is expensive, but it's your choice.
In my opinion the asus mobo is better.


According to =on&prod[5840]=on]this:

The performance of the 840 Pro exceeds the 830 by quite a bit. Why would I choose a smaller, slower drive? I'm not sure as to why you'd suggest that.

I like your PSU suggestion. I selected my current one as a result of prior build experiences, and the biggest reason being that the PSU I chose is fully modular, allowing for better cable management. The one you've suggested, while less expensive, is also not modular at all, unfortunately.

I'm very torn when it comes to the GPU. I've struggled with the choice of 7970 vs GTX 680, and opted for the 680 as a result of prior build experience, and horrors with ATI cards. The 670 may be a better value than the 680, but I think in a year and a half or so when the 680 begins to show its age and I pick up another for SLI, the performance difference between 2x670 vs 2x680 (particularly since I've got the FTW+ edition) would be noticable, and undesirable.

As far as the case is concerned, I can't help myself. I've had a case from the HAF line (various models) for years, and couldn't resist the urge to buy the big daddy HAF X.

What specifically about the ASUS mainboard would you say is better than the one I've chosen (which is recommended by this site :p ) ?

EDIT: Can't get the link to the SSD chart comparison to work, but if you copy/paste in your browser it should be fine.
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January 21, 2013 11:55:10 PM

The difference between a 680 and a 670 is less than 5% - down to about 3% after overclocking. Just throwing that out there.
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January 21, 2013 11:59:58 PM

He mentioned that you should have two 830 256GB drives in RAID (probably 0), meaning you get 512GB and (theoretically) double the speed.
I personally dont see the point of RAID'ing SSD's, I would just go with a single drive, but thats what he means.

The 860W you already picked is more than enough for the rig.

The 670 performs 95% as well as a 680 for $100 less, can even overclock past 680 performance. Not much reason to pick the 680 unless your willing to pay that $100 for maximum possible performance (in which case, get a 7970 :lol: )
I wouldnt get an EVGA card, reference design cooling runs louder and hotter, especially with the overclocking on the FTW cards. Would get a model from Gigabyte or MSI.

Im fine with overkill cases, my rig is nowhere near the caliber of yours and is in a HAF-X.

I think the Extreme4 is better than the P8Z77-V LK, comes with two more SATAIII ports. But there will always be personal preference.
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January 22, 2013 12:04:01 AM

manofchalk said:
He mentioned that you should have two 830 256GB drives in RAID (probably 0), meaning you get 512GB and (theoretically) double the speed.
I personally dont see the point of RAID'ing SSD's, I would just go with a single drive, but thats what he means.

The 860W you already picked is more than enough for the rig.

The 670 performs 95% as well as a 680 for $100 less, can even overclock past 680 performance. Not much reason to pick the 680 unless your willing to pay that $100 for maximum possible performance (in which case, get a 7970 :lol: )
I wouldnt get an EVGA card, reference design cooling runs louder and hotter, especially with the overclocking on the FTW cards. Would get a model from Gigabyte or MSI.

Im fine with overkill cases, my rig is nowhere near the caliber of yours and is in a HAF-X.

I think the Extreme4 is better than the P8Z77-V LK, comes with two more SATAIII ports. But there will always be personal preference.


I'm so afraid of all the horror stories I've heard of ATI cards, and how their drivers are terrible. I've had my own bad experiences with a crappy ATI card some years ago as well, otherwise I would have pulled the trigger on the 7970 already. In fact, I had considered its bigger brother the 7990 also, but shot it down because it's nearly $900 lol.
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January 22, 2013 12:05:43 AM

It's your money, but two 830 are way cheaper, and it's not that much faster the 840 pro, reliability terms they're equal.
But if you don't mind spend 500$ for a ssd go ahead with the samsung 840 pro.
Also make sure that you really need those 512GB, if not it's just a waste, you could get by a single 256GB.
Yes, the psu is not modular, but it's still a good one, that case has plenty of cable management, there's also others with high quality and modular ones :

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/rosewill-power-supply-caps...
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/xfx-power-supply-p1850bnlg...

If your planning to add another card, SLI setups are better, more smoothness and less micro stuttering.
A 670 gtx is the best value, the performance difference is neglective , specially in SLI.
If you want a single card, then the 7970 ghz edition is your best choice,it beats the 680 gtx, like this one : http://pcpartpicker.com/part/sapphire-video-card-100351...

The mobo, in my opinion the asus is better because at the same price, it has a digital power design and its size is the standard atx, the extreme 4 is a bit short(check the web), unless you're planning to add a lot of hdds, those two sata III ports are not useful.
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January 22, 2013 12:10:13 AM

The driver myths are just that, myths. AMD (ATI was acquired by AMD) has been fairly good with drivers as of late. The most noticeable was Catalyst 12.11, which actually increased the performance of the 7000 series cards between 5 and 10%. Doesn't sound like much, but for a driver update that's pretty big.
Besides, its not like Nvidia has never messed up a driver update.
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/warning-nvidia-196-7...

Both sides release bad, good and meh drivers, the idea that AMD/ATI drivers are outright worse is just false.
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January 22, 2013 12:13:09 AM

manofchalk said:
The driver myths are just that, myths. AMD (ATI was acquired by AMD) has been fairly good with drivers as of late. The most noticeable was Catalyst 12.11, which actually increased the performance of the 7000 series cards between 5 and 10%. Doesn't sound like much, but for a driver update that's pretty big.
Besides, its not like Nvidia has never messed up a driver update.
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/warning-nvidia-196-7...

Both sides release bad, good and meh drivers, the idea that AMD/ATI drivers are outright worse is just false.


The other problem I'm seeing with the 7970's (at least the ones available on newegg) is the lack of a backplate. I saw on the 7990 they sent it with a stand to support the card (as it weighs nearly 4 pounds) but the 7970's don't seem to even have a full backplate to support them. I'm concerned that with a larger case like the HAF X, I could run into stress on the PCI slot causing sagging and other problems...
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January 22, 2013 12:16:44 AM

Graphics cards don't come with a backplate, the 7990 is the exception since it has to have ridiculous cooling for its dual GPU's.

If your concerned about the graphics card sagging, the HAF-X comes with a bracket you can use to hold up the card.
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January 22, 2013 12:27:47 AM

manofchalk said:
Graphics cards don't come with a backplate, the 7990 is the exception since it has to have ridiculous cooling for its dual GPU's.

If your concerned about the graphics card sagging, the HAF-X comes with a bracket you can use to hold up the card.


HMM, the GTX 680 in my original post has a full backplate, and was one of the reasons I chose it.

However, since the HAF X comes with a bracket to hold up the card, I'm no longer concerned about sagging, and I'm investigating purchasing a 7970 instead, since it is technically the fastest single-gpu currently available, according to multiple sources.
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January 22, 2013 12:32:37 AM

There's the 7970 lightning : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Same as other GHZ editions, in fact, it's a good card since it has the voltage unlocked.
But from price point i rather get a 670 gtx, if you're planning to add another, it's undeniable that nvidia has better support for multi gpu setups, with better drivers.
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