Msi gtx 560 ti 448 psu requirements?

[xGeorgiaBoi]

Hello,
I was thinking about purchasing a Msi gtx 560 ti 448 core and was wondering would it be compatible with this psu? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817709011

 

[rolli59]

No that PSU although it has 580watt rating it does have the specs of a decent 350-400watt PSU! It is a brand to be avoided.

 

[andrewcarr]

Not even close I'd recommend a corsair builder series 500W psu if you're on a budget. Secondly why would you want a last generation card? Unless you're getting it for a great deal you'll be better off with a newer card such as a 7850 or 7870.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139027

 

[xGeorgiaBoi]

yes i am on a budget and the one im getting is $169 after the rebate and plus not really a fan of amd cards.

 

[andrewcarr]

Well I'd still highly recommend a 7850 but if you're dead set against it I guess there isn't much better you can do at that price. If you get the 7850 as a added bonus you'll be able to get a cheaper PSU too since it uses less power.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139026&Tpk=cx%20430
But if you go with that 560 Ti you'll have to stay with this one.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139027

 

[xGeorgiaBoi]

yea you got a point there...

 

[rolli59]

1gb HD7850 massive raw performance http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161426

 

[xGeorgiaBoi]

I think I might go with the 7850 but probably the gigabyte oc version. Could I use my psu with the 7850 or would I still have 2 upgrade???

 

[rolli59]

I would get a new PSU that Sunbeam can possibly become costly if it dies and pulls other components with it.

 

[prototype18]

Well that 560 Ti 448 nees 250W on peak .

Assuming you have a normal system (Cpu/2x Hdd/Dvd/2Strick ram) you will need 400W.

So XFX Core Pro 550 W will be ok.

But tell me your system specs and budget.

 

[xGeorgiaBoi]

My Specs Are:

Amd Ahtlon II X2 @2.8Ghz

Biostar A880GZ

6GB Ram

Segate 160GB HDD

Asus GT 430 1Gb

Sunbeam 580w PSu

This was my first build I did 2 yrs ago...Thats why the parts are so bad!!!
Now im looking to upgrade it piece by piece.
Also Budget is 180 for GFX Card.

 

[prototype18]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150609&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

Lifetime waranty .The best at that price

 

[Mousemonkey]

Well that 560 Ti 448 nees 250W on peak .

Assuming you have a normal system (Cpu/2x Hdd/Dvd/2Strick ram) you will need 400W.

So XFX Core Pro 550 W will be ok.

But tell me your system specs and budget.

210w actually.

http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-560ti/specifications

 

[prototype18]

210w actually.

http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-560ti/specifications

http://mark.zoomcities.com/images/gfx/GFXpowerchartbybrandgen.png

 

[delluser1]

210w actually.

http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-560ti/specifications

He's using Furmark numbers

 

[Sunius]

http://mark.zoomcities.com/images/gfx/GFXpowerchartbybrandgen.png

Your link doesn't work.


@OP: Both GTX 560 Ti 448 and HD 7850 1 GB have about the same performance. It's up to the price of either to know which is better to get.

You will need a need power supply unit regardless which card you choose, though.

 

[Mousemonkey]

He's using Furmark numbers
http://tpucdn.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_560_Ti_448_Cores_Twin_Frozr_III/images/power_maximum.gif

Ah the old heat virus that is not indicative of real world usage or normal gaming, I prefer to stick to real world numbers myself.

 

[andrewcarr]

I'm not going to get in the power argument as I don't want to argue with the most veteran member here.

But here are the cards I'd recommend all around the same price and more so comes down to what you want to spend and personal preference of looks.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202004
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161425
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125451

Then pairing them with this PSU will run it just fine.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139026

Regardless that PSU you have is a POS and has to be replaced.
They came to the conclusion that it can't reliably output over 200W in this review so I'm surprised it's worked as long as you had it.
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story5&reid=204

 

[prototype18]

Well andrewcarr those GPUs are nice but as he is aiming higher i assume he is gaming @1080P. So 1GB ram will struggle on that resolution.

The XFX i linked has lifetime warranty and 2Gb Vram for a good price(1$ less). 179$

That Cx 430 V2 is good but i discovered Antec Vp450W was better than it.(I hvnt tried yet that Antec but reviews (hardwareecrets) gave golden award and it delivered more W on 12V Rail than Cx 430 V2. And its just 30$ making it a better deal than Cx 430 V2.

http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=62331&vpn=VP450&manufacture=Antec

Get it while its in stock.

Aim at new gen GPU as they use less power and are great for the price !

 

[andrewcarr]

Well the GPU I'd recommend for 2 GB start at $200 and I refuse to recommend the 2 GB models in his price range. These are the cheaper 2 GB versions I would recommend.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102999
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127706
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161424
Most of them also have higher models from the same brand (some with the same cooler) but just a slight overclock that isn't worth it for the extra $10 when you can click a few buttons not touch the voltage and raise the clock above the factory OC.

That PSU is also a good one that I wasn't aware of, good recommendation (although since you can't order a PSU when it isn't in stock I don't see point of adding that).

Lastly 1 GB really isn't as much of a hindrance as most people make it out to be. If you look at the previous generation of cards most didn't have more than one or slightly more than one GB. Only place I see him maxing it is at very high AA or possibly many mods in games such as Skyrim.

If you look through the recent $500 build you'll get an idea of what you can expect from a 7850.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/budget-gaming-do-it-yourself-computer,3364.html
FPS benchmark pages.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/budget-gaming-do-it-yourself-computer,3364-10.html
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/budget-gaming-do-it-yourself-computer,3364-11.html
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/budget-gaming-do-it-yourself-computer,3364-12.html

 

[prototype18]

Well that Antec is in stock and its only 31$.

And about VRam check this out

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18284509

 

[andrewcarr]

Every possible setting was maxed. I'm not disagreeing that the 2 GB version is better I'm just saying that under current normal use it's okay to have 1 GB since at what setting most people run AA won't be maxed on a card that's not top of the line. Also in opposition to the 560 Ti he listed either version of the 7850 is better.

To quote myself
"Only place I see him maxing it is at very high AA or possibly many mods in games such as Skyrim."
Those tests were with the highest AA. I wouldn't recommend CF with 7850 1 GB but if you never intend to do this you'll be fine. His low end motherboard doesn't even support CF.