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January 22, 2013 12:51:31 PM

Hey everyone,

I'm doing my first PC build in 2 weeks and I wanted to know a few things before I order the parts.
This PC is mainly going to be used as a gaming PC. I am not going to overclock at all.

The parts I have in mind now:

Intel Core i5 3470 / 3.2 GHz = CPU
http://azerty.nl/0-2532-528633/intel-core-i5-3470-3-2-g...

Club 3D Radeon HD 7870 royalAce = GPU
http://azerty.nl/0-3921-556746/club-3d-radeon-hd-7870-r...

ASRock ZH77 Pro3 = Motherboard
http://azerty.nl/0-4924-554124/asrock-zh77-pro3-.html

Corsair Vengeance 2x4GB = RAM
http://azerty.nl/0-750-361602/corsair-vengeance-.html

AeroCool Strike-X One = Case
http://azerty.nl/0-1044-485506/aerocool-strike-x-one-.h...

Corsair Builder Series CX600 Bronze = PSU
http://azerty.nl/0-1073-555978/corsair-builder-series-c...

Seagate Barracuda ST31000524AS 1TB = HDD
http://azerty.nl/0-857-397470/seagate-barracuda-st31000...

Samsung SH-224BB = DVD Reader
http://azerty.nl/0-862-557195/samsung-sh-224bb-.html


1. Should I get the "Club 3D Radeon HD 7870 royalAce"
http://azerty.nl/0-3921-556746/club-3d-radeon-hd-7870-r...

Or should I get the "MSI N660 TF 2GD5/OC (GTX 660)"
http://azerty.nl/0-4360-554020/msi-n660-tf-2gd5-oc-graf...

I still have my doubts about the Club3D 7870 because I don't know if it is a good brand.
Also the 7870 is on sale 33% less money.

2. Is the case I mentioned above a good case and what are the good things and the bad things about.
If this case isn't good, can you give the link of a better case around 40 euro on this website: www.azerty.nl

3. Is this motherboard good enough for future upgrades (I know I can't do SLI with this) and will it all fit (especially for the RAM because this version of the Vengeance is pretty big).

4. Is it worth getting a SSD 32GB for my operating system (Windows 7) and will it be worth the money if looking at game performance?

5. If you got any other recommendations then please tell me, my max budget is 700 euro (exclusive delivery which is around 12 euro).

Greetings, AncientBro :D 

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January 23, 2013 12:55:40 AM

Your setup is very nice and should be able to handle most games at high settings. As far a your questions go i have answers as follows:

1. I would stick with the 7870 as long as it comes with a warranty. I had a hard time navigating on the site you provided because i only read english :whistle:  but it is about as capable as the gtx660, but is much lower in price with your deal. club 3D used to be quite popular, but has kinda left the market here in north america, but as long as you get a warranty with that card, you should be fine.

2. Since your psu is not modular, you are going to need alot of cable management to keep good airflow. From reviews i've seen on it, that case has some issues with the dust pan and is only average as far a cable management goes. I could not find it on www.azerty.nl but on newegg and plenty of other tech website you could buy the corsair haf922. It's a little more expensive, but it has great cable management which you will need for that psu since it is not modular. If you wish to keep that case, you could also switch out your psu for one that is modular such as this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... It is quite cheap, but is not on the website you said.

3. Your motherboard will do fine for now, but as far as upgrades go it is hard to tell. Your ram will be fine and as long as you will not be overclocking your cpu or using sli or crossfire you should be fine.

4. Adding an ssd for windows 7 will just make the the program boot up faster, but will not really make that much of a difference for games. So unless you would be willing to buy a 128gb ssd to store the actual game on then i dont really see the point of doing so unless you really like having a faster boot time for the os and some programs.

5. This is a nice setup for average-semi intense gaming. You may not be able to run crysis 2 at 60 fps, but who really needs that? I dont think you need to change anything other than what I suggested. Good luck!
January 23, 2013 12:28:25 PM

Noob12 said:
You are not overclockin so take intel xeon 1230V2
MoBo Gigabyte GA-H77M-D3H because asrock has poor powering up the processor.
And gigabyte has 3 year warranty and asrock only 2 years.
GPU take Asus ,gigabyte or powercolor if 7870 is what you get.
http://www.pureoverclock.com/Review-detail/powercolor-p...

I don't agree on the Xeon CPU and the Asus/Gigabyte GPU recommend. Xeon CPU's aren't good for gaming computers. You are the only one I have ever seen who said you should take a Xeon (which is a bad choice). Also, MSI has the best rating on many sites when looking at cooling, performance. Asus and Gigabyte make good cards but aren't necessarily better than MSI.
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January 23, 2013 12:33:56 PM

JmanXp said:
Your setup is very nice and should be able to handle most games at high settings. As far a your questions go i have answers as follows:

1. I would stick with the 7870 as long as it comes with a warranty. I had a hard time navigating on the site you provided because i only read english :whistle:  but it is about as capable as the gtx660, but is much lower in price with your deal. club 3D used to be quite popular, but has kinda left the market here in north america, but as long as you get a warranty with that card, you should be fine.

2. Since your psu is not modular, you are going to need alot of cable management to keep good airflow. From reviews i've seen on it, that case has some issues with the dust pan and is only average as far a cable management goes. I could not find it on www.azerty.nl but on newegg and plenty of other tech website you could buy the corsair haf922. It's a little more expensive, but it has great cable management which you will need for that psu since it is not modular. If you wish to keep that case, you could also switch out your psu for one that is modular such as this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... It is quite cheap, but is not on the website you said.

3. Your motherboard will do fine for now, but as far as upgrades go it is hard to tell. Your ram will be fine and as long as you will not be overclocking your cpu or using sli or crossfire you should be fine.

4. Adding an ssd for windows 7 will just make the the program boot up faster, but will not really make that much of a difference for games. So unless you would be willing to buy a 128gb ssd to store the actual game on then i dont really see the point of doing so unless you really like having a faster boot time for the os and some programs.

5. This is a nice setup for average-semi intense gaming. You may not be able to run crysis 2 at 60 fps, but who really needs that? I dont think you need to change anything other than what I suggested. Good luck!

Thanks for this usefull information. I know the HAF 922 is a great case, but it is 50 euro's more expensive and I really don't wanna pay that difference. As for the PSU, nobody ever said it to me, but I might look into it. You convirmed my thoughts about an SSD. I don't really care about startup times so I won't bother don't having one. You said that this PC build would handle games on High? On the internet I have seen several of the same types of systems which can handle most games on Ultra with a average 60+ FPS. For the thing you said about the motherboard, I am happy about that. Because I don't need SLI later or Crossfire (although this motherboard supports Crossfire).

Thanks for taking the time to reply, AncientBro
January 23, 2013 12:35:29 PM

JmanXp said:
Your setup is very nice and should be able to handle most games at high settings. As far a your questions go i have answers as follows:

1. I would stick with the 7870 as long as it comes with a warranty. I had a hard time navigating on the site you provided because i only read english :whistle:  but it is about as capable as the gtx660, but is much lower in price with your deal. club 3D used to be quite popular, but has kinda left the market here in north america, but as long as you get a warranty with that card, you should be fine.

2. Since your psu is not modular, you are going to need alot of cable management to keep good airflow. From reviews i've seen on it, that case has some issues with the dust pan and is only average as far a cable management goes. I could not find it on www.azerty.nl but on newegg and plenty of other tech website you could buy the corsair haf922. It's a little more expensive, but it has great cable management which you will need for that psu since it is not modular. If you wish to keep that case, you could also switch out your psu for one that is modular such as this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... It is quite cheap, but is not on the website you said.

3. Your motherboard will do fine for now, but as far as upgrades go it is hard to tell. Your ram will be fine and as long as you will not be overclocking your cpu or using sli or crossfire you should be fine.

4. Adding an ssd for windows 7 will just make the the program boot up faster, but will not really make that much of a difference for games. So unless you would be willing to buy a 128gb ssd to store the actual game on then i dont really see the point of doing so unless you really like having a faster boot time for the os and some programs.

5. This is a nice setup for average-semi intense gaming. You may not be able to run crysis 2 at 60 fps, but who really needs that? I dont think you need to change anything other than what I suggested. Good luck!

Is this the PSU you meant? http://azerty.nl/0-1073-280719/sea-sonic-m12ii-620bronz...
I think I will go with this one: http://azerty.nl/0-1073-582389/corsair-cx-series-modula...
Only a few bucks (5) more expensive but it seems to be worth it.
January 23, 2013 4:29:34 PM

You were right about the graphics card. I was looking at multiple monitor benchmarks, my bad. It should handle nearly everything for now as long as you are playing on one monitor. That psu you suggested will do fine since you want to keep your case. One last thing i suggest is to get an intel i5 3570 instead of the i5 3470. It is only about 20$ more, but it will perform even better. It's up to you but the extra 20 is worth it in my opinion.
January 23, 2013 5:23:51 PM

JmanXp said:
You were right about the graphics card. I was looking at multiple monitor benchmarks, my bad. It should handle nearly everything for now as long as you are playing on one monitor. That psu you suggested will do fine since you want to keep your case. One last thing i suggest is to get an intel i5 3570 instead of the i5 3470. It is only about 20$ more, but it will perform even better. It's up to you but the extra 20 is worth it in my opinion.

I know about the 3570, but I don't think it is worth the extra money for gaming. Thanks for your help :) 
!