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January 22, 2013 3:39:21 PM

I've been reading a lot about computer parts and while I'm getting a sense for which parts do what etc.. I'm still very lost when it gets down to the dirty details. I'm attempting to build a performance gaming PC that can run everything, on at least high settings, and will last me a couple years. Can someone take a look at the build and let me know if there's any obvious problems etc? The price comes out to about $1600 off ibuypower and that's right on my budget so please don't tell me I should spend $400 more on a gfx card or something unless absolutely necessary. Thanks!

Case(NZXT Phantom 410 Gaming Case - Black)

Processor(Intel® Core™ i7 3820 Processor (4x 3.60GHz/10MB L3 Cache) - Intel Core i7 3820)

Motherboard(Gigabyte GA-X79-UP4 -- 4x PCI-E 2.0 x16)

Memory(16 GB [4 GB X4] DDR3-1600 Memory Module - G.Skill Ripjaws)

Video Card(AMD Radeon HD 7950 - 3GB - Single Card)

Case Lighting(Cold Cathode Neon Light - Blue)

Power Supply(750 Watt Corsair CMPSU-750TXV2)

Processor Cooling(Corsair Hydro Series H60 Liquid CPU Cooling System - ARC Silent High Performance Fan Upgrade)

Primary Hard Drive(120 GB ADATA S510 SSD - Single Drive)

Data Hard Drive(1 TB HARD DRIVE -- 32M Cache, 7200 RPM, 6.0Gb/s - Single Drive)

Optical Drive(24X Dual Format/Double Layer DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW Drive - Black)

Sound Card(ASUS Xonar DSX)

Speaker System(Logitech Z506 5.1 Surround 3D Sound Speakers + Subwoofer - Black)

Network Card(Intel Pro 10/100/1000 Network Card)

Monitor(Dell 27" IPS LED HD)

Operating System(Windows 8)

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January 22, 2013 3:43:29 PM

if you won't be doing any heavy video editing etc. you'll be better of with an i5 because it's as good as an i7 in gaming, while it's a lot cheaper... also: will you be overclocking your cpu?
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January 22, 2013 3:48:10 PM

toine777 said:
if you won't be doing any heavy video editing etc. you'll be better of with an i5 because it's as good as an i7 in gaming, while it's a lot cheaper... also: will you be overclocking your cpu?


I wanted to go with the i5 and save a little money but whatever I clicked on at ibuypower to start wouldn't let me "downgrade" to an i5, I'm not stressed about it too much though.

I am currently not planning on overclocking... I'm not opposed to the idea I'm just not sure exactly what it is, how to do it, and if this comp would be able to do it successfully etc.
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January 22, 2013 3:49:12 PM

Forget 2011 socket. Get i5 3570k and z77 mb. 7950 change that to 7970 it is only $60 more. Even better would be 2 7950 in CF with watercooling.
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January 22, 2013 3:54:10 PM

maxinexus said:
Forget 2011 socket. Get i5 3570k and z77 mb. 7950 change that to 7970 it is only $60 more. Even better would be 2 7950 in CF with watercooling.


Sorry I'm not exactly sure what you mean by "2011 socket" and "z77 mb"...

Does the build I have above leave room to add an additional 7950 in a couple months to use the crossfire function?? Or is that something I would need to do from the start?

From what I've read dual 7950 crossfire mostly comes into play with 3d gaming... is that true? That might be something for me in the future but right now I'm not willing to drop the extra $300 on another 7950 then another $500+ on a 3D monitor...
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January 22, 2013 3:56:21 PM

ibuypower? Buy the parts of newegg and amazon and do it yourself, you will save a lot of money and get more power.

You only need an i5.
As mentioned above go with the z77:3570K and a 7970 or GTX 670.
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January 22, 2013 3:59:08 PM

Z77 motherboards also has crossfire and SLI support like lga2011, for dual setups a lga 1155 z77 mobo is cheaper, for gaming the i5-3570k is the best cpu, it's better than the i7-3820, it has faster cores, only if you're doing video/image editing, the i7 is better, but the i7-3770k is better overall than the i7-3820.
Also if it's mere for gaming 8GB is enough for today and for tomorrow...
Get a better ssd and cooler.
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January 22, 2013 4:00:16 PM

mgouellette said:
Sorry I'm not exactly sure what you mean by "2011 socket" and "z77 mb"...

Does the build I have above leave room to add an additional 7950 in a couple months to use the crossfire function?? Or is that something I would need to do from the start?

From what I've read dual 7950 crossfire mostly comes into play with 3d gaming... is that true? That might be something for me in the future but right now I'm not willing to drop the extra $300 on another 7950 then another $500+ on a 3D monitor...


Socket 2011 is what you don't need. You want a z77 board with socket 1155 for an Intel 3570k.

Dual 7950 will give you a significant boost to frames per second so you can run games at maximum settings without going under 60fps. 3D gaming will hurt your frames per second which is why SLI\Crossfire is good to help sustain frame rates during 3D gaming too.
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January 22, 2013 4:01:55 PM

edogawa said:
ibuypower? Buy the parts of newegg and amazon and do it yourself, you will save a lot of money and get more power.

You only need an i5.
As mentioned above go with the z77:3570K and a 7970 or GTX 670.


I know it's cheaper / more people prefer to buy the parts and assemble themselves... but I'm willing to spend a little extra money while I have it to not snap my motherboard in half trying to put it in or something. I've never built a PC before and there's no warranty if I assemble it myself :) 

Is the 7970 that much better than the 7950??
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January 22, 2013 4:02:09 PM

DROP WINDOWS 8! Im warning you now. You will not be able to play any games using Windows 8!!
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January 22, 2013 4:03:35 PM

blade2697 said:
DROP WINDOWS 8! Im warning you now. You will not be able to play any games using Windows 8!!


Ignore this person, he is 100% incorrect.
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January 22, 2013 4:15:25 PM

edogawa said:
Socket 2011 is what you don't need. You want a z77 board with socket 1155 for an Intel 3570k.

Dual 7950 will give you a significant boost to frames per second so you can run games at maximum settings without going under 60fps. 3D gaming will hurt your frames per second which is why SLI\Crossfire is good to help sustain frame rates during 3D gaming too.


So I should switch the cpu to the i5 3570k..? Are you saying I need a different mother board as well? Sorry this is all pretty foreign to me...

and thank you for clarifying the windows 8 comment!
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January 22, 2013 4:16:34 PM

mgouellette said:
I know it's cheaper / more people prefer to buy the parts and assemble themselves... but I'm willing to spend a little extra money while I have it to not snap my motherboard in half trying to put it in or something. I've never built a PC before and there's no warranty if I assemble it myself :) 

Is the 7970 that much better than the 7950??


That's fine, and most PC parts come with 2+ year warranties as well.

7950 is fine, 7970 isn't worth the extra price I'd say. Get a custom 7950 and overclock it.
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January 22, 2013 4:19:28 PM

edogawa said:
That's fine, and most PC parts come with 2+ year warranties as well.

7950 is fine, 7970 isn't worth the extra price I'd say. Get a custom 7950 and overclock it.

I've also heard that having a liquid cooling system will void any manufacturer's warranty on the parts... is this true?

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January 22, 2013 4:20:43 PM

mgouellette said:
So I should switch the cpu to the i5 3570k..? Are you saying I need a different mother board as well? Sorry this is all pretty foreign to me...

and thank you for clarifying the windows 8 comment!



No problem, just install start8 or classic shell with windows 8 and your good to go on that.

When you select for a PC just make sure you go for a 3570k and you will be fine.

So Desktop>Custom Configuration>Intel>Intel Z77 i5/i7.

You will never need an i7 unless you want hyper threading.

*edit* GTX 670 is a good card to go with too, but overall the 7950 will be fine unless you want Physx or TXAA.
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January 22, 2013 4:32:20 PM

edogawa said:
No problem, just install start8 or classic shell with windows 8 and your good to go on that.

When you select for a PC just make sure you go for a 3570k and you will be fine.

So Desktop>Custom Configuration>Intel>Intel Z77 i5/i7.

You will never need an i7 unless you want hyper threading.

*edit* GTX 670 is a good card to go with too, but overall the 7950 will be fine unless you want Physx or TXAA.


So with the i7 I have currently am I going to notice a "worse" performance than if I go with an i5 3570k???

I'm not the kind of person who is going to be measuring frame rates constantly to make sure I'm getting performance... I'm more concerned about what is noticeable to the naked eye while I'm shooting stuff etc...
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January 22, 2013 4:40:15 PM

mgouellette said:
So with the i7 I have currently am I going to notice a "worse" performance than if I go with an i5 3570k???

I'm not the kind of person who is going to be measuring frame rates constantly to make sure I'm getting performance... I'm more concerned about what is noticeable to the naked eye while I'm shooting stuff etc...



You will not experience worse performance. i7 is 100 bucks more for hyper threading basically which won't really help you or doing anything for games.

Unless you use software which will utilize hyper threading, go with the i5 and save 100$. You're paying for a feature you won't use.

i5 is perfect for gaming machines.

Found this if you're interested: http://www.overclock.net/t/671977/hyperthreading-in-gam...

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January 22, 2013 4:44:38 PM

edogawa said:
You will not experience worse performance. i7 is 100 bucks more for hyper threading basically which won't really help you or doing anything for games.

Unless you use software which will utilize hyper threading, go with the i5 and save 100$. You're paying for a feature you won't use. I think I read before the i7 with HT actually causes drop in performance, very tiny one.

i5 is perfect for gaming machines.

Okay awesome. I'll have to look up what hyper threading is so I know a bit more...

I'm a bit lost on the z77 comment... Is that the motherboard that I need to upgrade or is that referring to the i5 chip?
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January 22, 2013 5:00:11 PM

djangoringo said:
Z77 motherboards also has crossfire and SLI support like lga2011, for dual setups a lga 1155 z77 mobo is cheaper, for gaming the i5-3570k is the best cpu, it's better than the i7-3820, it has faster cores, only if you're doing video/image editing, the i7 is better, but the i7-3770k is better overall than the i7-3820.
Also if it's mere for gaming 8GB is enough for today and for tomorrow...
Get a better ssd and cooler.

can you link a mother board that fits the specs you're talking about??
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January 22, 2013 5:14:46 PM

edogawa said:
Ignore this person, he is 100% incorrect.


Am i really? (Not sarcasm) I thought games like DayZ battlefield 3 and cod blops 2 or farcry 3 dont have windows 8 compatibility
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January 22, 2013 5:44:49 PM

edogawa said:
That's fine, and most PC parts come with 2+ year warranties as well.

7950 is fine, 7970 isn't worth the extra price I'd say. Get a custom 7950 and overclock it.


He wants 27"IPS monitor so having 15% more power from 7970 is worth especially on 2560x1440 resolution

http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/2012-vga-gpgpu/compa...
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January 22, 2013 7:20:47 PM

blade2697 said:
Am i really? (Not sarcasm) I thought games like DayZ battlefield 3 and cod blops 2 or farcry 3 dont have windows 8 compatibility



I've used them all, they work fine, zero issues. Hell everything I've ran on Windows 7 runs on Windows 8 and I have a ton of stuff.
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January 22, 2013 7:36:55 PM

are u open to have a smaller screen. and socket 1155 and buying from somewhere else?

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January 22, 2013 8:14:33 PM

I think for the level of gaming I'm going to participate in and my budget I'm just going to stick with what I have. I'm not the type to get angry that my monitor lag time caused me to die or to care if I'm running at 60 or 70fps as long as its smooth, enjoyable, and looks pretty.

Thanks everyone for your help :) 

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January 22, 2013 8:14:49 PM

Best answer selected by mgouellette.
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January 22, 2013 8:20:07 PM

mgouellette said:
I think for the level of gaming I'm going to participate in and my budget I'm just going to stick with what I have. I'm not the type to get angry that my monitor lag time caused me to die or to care if I'm running at 60 or 70fps as long as its smooth, enjoyable, and looks pretty.

Thanks everyone for your help :) 


No problem, hope you enjoy your new system. :D 
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