First watercooled build

Fleshpuppet

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hey guys

I'm building my first water cooled computer and i thought it would be a good idea to get some outside opinions on my build before i start buying the parts. I have two main concerns really. 1 is my pump going to be powerful enough for this rig and 2 is 1000 watt power supply sufficient to run everything but other the that i would just like to know what your guys thoughts are.

additional info: i do plan on using duel monitors, i don't plan on overclocking, this is meant as a gaming rig but i do stream a lot of videos

Here is my build

CPU - Intel i7-3770k
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116501

Motherboard - ASUS Maximus v formula/ Thunder FX
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131857

Graphics card - EVGA gtx 680
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130780

RAM - Patriot Viper 3 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820220733

SSD - 120GB SATA III Intel 330 Series
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820167121

HHD - 1 TB Seagate Barracuda SATA 6.0Gb/s
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148697

Optical drive - ASUS DVD burner
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204

Power supply - COOLER MASTER Silent Pro 1000W 80 PLUS SILVER Certified Modular
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817171076

Case - COOLER MASTER CM Storm Series Trooper
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119245


Water cooling parts


Pump - Swift tech MCP655
http://www.swiftech.com/mcp655.aspx

CPU Water block - Apogee HD
http://www.swiftech.com/ApogeeHD.aspx

Radiator - MCRx2 XP triple radiator (120mm)
http://www.swiftech.com/MCRX20-XP-RADIATOR-SERIES-1.aspx

Reservoir - i could use a recommendation, i can't decide.

Ram Water block - bitpower universal clear
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=59_971_294&products_id=32397

GPU Water block - Koolance VID-NX680 (GeForce GTX680)
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=59_971_240_581&products_id=33928

 
Solution
the rog series are mostly bling and have better components and electronic circuitry and capacitators made to overclock.


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Intel Core i5-3570K (BX806237I53570K) $229.99 In Stock

NZXT Havik 140 Six Heatpipe Tower CPU Cooler $69.99

G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3 1600MHz $81.99

Seagate Barracuda (ST1000DM003) SATA3 6.0Gb/s 1TB 64MB Cache (OEM) $74.99

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Wow, that is going to be one heck of a rig. 1000w is more than necessary. You could run that on 850w. Watercooling is fun and although it looks very cool in a PC, if you are not going to overclock it to the edge, its not worth the cash outlay. The ram certainly doesn't need to be watercooled. Air cooling should be sufficient to cool those parts. I run a OC' 3770k with only a Coolermaster 212 EVO on 5v and its very quiet. The rest of my fans are set to 5-7v too and makes for a quiet rig that runs plenty cool enough (JAllen Labs GT1000/Silverstone Fortress FT 03). If you want to go all out though, those parts should be fine together.
 
It is massive overkill in so many ways

buying a K sku processor when you wont overclock is pointless
expensive mb that wont increase performance over any other Z77 motherboard and is only useful for builds with multiple graphics cards
way too much RAM for a gamer
watercooling not needed anywhere
and it would run on a 600 watt psu

Some times more is not better , its just more

 

Fleshpuppet

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i do plan on using multiple graphics cards i forgot to say so, sorry about that

the only reason why i say I'm not overclocking is because i have never done it before so i didn't want to build a system around overclocking (though apparently i did) but if you think its a waste not to over clock and it seems like people agree with you then i guess i'll give it a shot.

as for the power supply i wasn't sure how much i needed and i figured that 1000 watt should cover me plus give me room to expand for more graphic cards or help with upgrading

i should also mention i have a friend who brags about his store bought mac computer and how its better then anything i could build so there is bit of pride and vanity mixed in with this computer

 

austing

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GL modding that case to get a triple rad in there, CM uses somuch plastic the friction from cutting with catch the case on fire.

Also, no OC'ing? Lolwut. Buy an H100 and be done.

Also, I hope you plan on buying waterblocks for your "multi-gpu" setup, you're going to need more than one block.
 
either way, air cooling cools cards perfectly fine. you dont need watercooling unless you want to push your cards above the max air overclocks you can achieve. plus, nvidia cards are locked in voltage anyways. cant do much about it

air cooling is the way to go for you. get this. it should smack any mac in the face. btw, you can put mac os on this rig if you want. gigabyte motherboards are good for that
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/zcTK

-i7s are for video rendering and workstation tasks. a i5 will perform the same in games
-670s perform the same as 680 in most situations. you are maxing everything out anyways
-case is avaliable in white. also avaliable with or without a window
-heatsink is mainly for bling. i can get a noctua for 30 bucks cheaper, but its brown
-you dont need that much wattage for that rig anyways. the rosewell capstone is a very good unit

overclocking is easy. many guides on youtube on how to do so. or go to the overclock section of the forums.
 
nice build let me give it a try.

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CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Silver Arrow CPU Cooler ($69.70 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($124.99 @ Microcenter)
Memory: Mushkin Blackline 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($79.98 @ Outlet PC)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($129.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: PNY GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($299.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: NZXT Phantom (Black/Orange) ATX Full Tower Case ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Enthusiast 850W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Sony DDU1681S-0B DVD/CD Drive ($24.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
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ditto u dont need watercooling unless going for crazy oc records.

 
would not recommend the silver arrow. most people who used one found the fan clips a total pain compared to something like the brackets on the D14.

would give him a modular unit. cant brag to a mac user with cables sprawling everywhere.

also note that reference designs tend to have more coil whine and for some 670s, the fans have a slight grinding sound
 

Fleshpuppet

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i would say about 2,500 but i could go a little over if need be and one of the reasons for this build was to try out an open loop water cooling so i kinda do "need" it, i know it will run great without watercooling but i want to try it. i'm in Canada Ontario
 
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CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($225.90 @ Amazon Canada)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($68.99 @ Computer Valley)
Motherboard: MSI Z77A-GD55 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($94.99 @ Canada Computers)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($79.99 @ Canada Computers)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($89.79 @ DirectCanada)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($137.85 @ DirectCanada)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($349.99 @ NCIX)
Case: Thermaltake VN700M1W2N ATX Full Tower Case ($97.99 @ NCIX)
Power Supply: XFX 850W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($94.99 @ NCIX)
Optical Drive: Sony DDU1681S-0B DVD/CD Drive
Keyboard: SteelSeries 6Gv2 Wired Standard Keyboard ($84.99 @ Canada Computers)
Mouse: Corsair Vengeance M90 Wired Laser Mouse ($59.99 @ Memory Express)
Other: windows 7 64
Total: $1385.46
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Fleshpuppet

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the closest ncix store to me is over 2 hours away in the summer time lol and its snowing like a mad man where i am


so just to sum up, everyone seems to agree that i need to get pretty much the step down from what i have chosen in terms of CPU and graphics cards plus unless i over clock don't bother with water cooling and change the mother board correct?
 
yeah its pretty cold this week. -20c in Markham. There are a few stores in the GTA. unless you live outside of it, it shouldnt be a huge problem. if necessary, you could just buy it from directcanada. generally would cost more, but free shipping

without watercooling, i wouldnt recommend the asus board whatsoever. its just plain overkill.
 

Fleshpuppet

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yeah i'm down by wasaga beach so i feel ya, it got to be about -30 last night with the wind coming off of the water lol the closets store i could get to would be Canada Computers in barrie. i really want to try my hand at water cooling so if that means i have to over clock and buy better parts i'm fine with that plus i really dislike the look of most CPU coolers
 

Fleshpuppet

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...good and bad news guys. my parents just dropped of my x-mas gift from my great grandma (she got presents for everyone but me so its a little late) she felt so bad about forgetting about me that she went a little over board with the present, so good news i dont need to buy a case, bad news i'm stuck with the Coolermaster trooper...
 
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Fleshpuppet

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yeah thats where i planned on buying most of the parts I'll be heading there at the end of the month. just a quick question. why did you choose AMD Radeon HD 7950 3GB over a gtx 680 or 670? i was just wondering.