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January 24, 2013 5:06:13 PM

im looking at this build for my new desktop. ive looked into ecc memory and it was hard for me to find a cheap motherboard that supported it, so im thinking of going without. Im not planning on overclocking which is why xeon is an option.
also, i need help with a power supply, some recomendation would be nice. i dont need an os or monitor.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1240 V2 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($260.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($124.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($79.98 @ Outlet PC)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Intel 335 Series 240GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($188.89 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Asus Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($347.49 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: XClio A380BK ATX Full Tower Case ($116.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $1169.30
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-24 14:00 EST-0500)

any review appreciated ^^

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January 24, 2013 5:21:20 PM

if you say you wont be overclocking then i suggest combo of a i5-3470 and H77 chipset mobo - gonna be a lot cheper to you

for psu - antec/xfx/seasonic/corsair ~550w at least 80+ bronze
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a c 81 V Motherboard
January 24, 2013 5:39:41 PM

Some changes that i made, if you're not overclocking, and you cannot with the xeon, get the h77 pro 4, also this allows for a 7970 which is better than a 7950, a quality 550w psu will do, like the xfx, in my opinion the samsung 830 ssd is better, and the nzxt case is better, my suggestion :

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1240 V2 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($260.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock H77 Pro4/MVP ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($87.55 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($79.98 @ Outlet PC)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.98 @ Outlet PC)
Storage: Samsung 830 Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($199.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card ($369.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Phantom (Black) ATX Full Tower Case ($96.00 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($53.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1218.46
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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a c 81 V Motherboard
January 24, 2013 6:24:04 PM

The pro 4 mvp is a standard atx motherboard, i just put a full tower case, because he had one, but he can cut the cost of the case for a mid tower one, like the corsair 200R.
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January 25, 2013 1:10:17 AM

djangoringo said:
Some changes that i made, if you're not overclocking, and you cannot with the xeon, get the h77 pro 4, also this allows for a 7970 which is better than a 7950, a quality 550w psu will do, like the xfx, in my opinion the samsung 830 ssd is better, and the nzxt case is better, my suggestion :

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1240 V2 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($260.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock H77 Pro4/MVP ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($87.55 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($79.98 @ Outlet PC)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.98 @ Outlet PC)
Storage: Samsung 830 Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($199.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card ($369.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Phantom (Black) ATX Full Tower Case ($96.00 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($53.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1218.46
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)


while the samsung 830 ssd has twice the iops speeds, im wondering if thasts important as ill only be putting programs and the os on it? i figured thats not nessisatry cus my music and videos are on an external i have. i was shooting more towards the reliability and durability of intel ssds. what do you think?

also i know like nothing about the psu so thanks for the pointers.

the graphics card was a toss up between the 7950 3gb and the 7970 3gb based on the deals i could find in the next week or so.

also the hdd is just a consept placer as idk what my final hdd will be and Im pritty in love with my case.

but as for the motherboard, whats the diffrence between the h77 and the z77? and my only concern with that mobo is that there is only one pcie 16 so i cant crossfire, i wanted that possiblity left open >.> whats the reasoning for loosing that?

I really dont want to upgrade this for 4 years, thats why i want the 16gb ram.
Thanks for the perspectives!
Ben s
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a c 81 V Motherboard
January 25, 2013 1:41:58 AM

The samsung is as reliable as the intel, the two more reliable ssds, are those two brands, the samsung delivers better performance.
If you want to crossfire two 7950/7970, you need a better psu also, either stay with one with the h77 and a 550w psu or get the extreme 4 + ~750w psu :
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004MYFODI/

That one is made by seasonic, it will hold two 79xx cards.
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January 25, 2013 8:17:16 PM

ok, so i admit, looking into it, i broke down and bought the samsung 840 pro 256 gb. not only cus the double iops but because its so power efficient at
Power Consumption (Idle) 0.054W
Power Consumption (Active) 0.069W

love it.

anyways with that power supply, i was wondering if i would have effcency problems with under pulling it? that is would i do better to buy the 550W untill i crossfire, then upgrade my PSU or just buy the bigger one now and use it at lower watts?

thanks for your help man :) 
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a c 81 V Motherboard
January 25, 2013 8:25:03 PM

You can buy now the 650w, the efficiency is the same as the 550w, no point in getting two psu if you want to crossfire the 7950.
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a b V Motherboard
January 25, 2013 10:00:14 PM

ben s said:
im looking at this build for my new desktop. ive looked into ecc memory and it was hard for me to find a cheap motherboard that supported it, so im thinking of going without. Im not planning on overclocking which is why xeon is an option.
also, i need help with a power supply, some recomendation would be nice. i dont need an os or monitor.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1240 V2 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($260.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($124.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($79.98 @ Outlet PC)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Intel 335 Series 240GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($188.89 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Asus Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($347.49 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: XClio A380BK ATX Full Tower Case ($116.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $1169.30
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-24 14:00 EST-0500)

any review appreciated ^^


Do not purchase an XCLIO case. They are among the worst cases you could buy. Get a Corsair 500R instead in that price range, or the NZXT Phantom. If you're gaming don't purchase a Xeon - you won't benefit from it. Stick with the i5 or i7 instead.
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January 26, 2013 4:24:20 AM

djangoringo said:
You can buy now the 650w, the efficiency is the same as the 550w, no point in getting two psu if you want to crossfire the 7950.


just to clarify, you ment this psu?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

you said 750 seasonic then linked me to corsair 750, then latter said 650. so did you mean a 750 or 650 seasonic or corsair? lol, that psu i linked looks good to me...

im thinking modular is better as my case is open view.

i think ill roll out the buying this next week. :) 

also, this is what the build looks like now.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1240 V2 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($260.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($124.99 @ Microcenter)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($219.99 @ Adorama)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($309.99 @ Newegg)
Case: XClio A380BK ATX Full Tower Case ($116.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Enthusiast 750W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($106.24 @ Amazon)
Total: $1189.16
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-26 01:25 EST-0500)

add 70$ for g skill 16gb ddr3 1866 from new egg, and take off 65$ for inaccuracies of pcpartpicker/ recycled laptop hdd and its a solid 1200$ for me ^^
could get about 70$ less for different case and non-modular psu, but i like the setup :) 

thanks for all the help djangoringo
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January 26, 2013 4:21:48 PM

Rosewill PSU are relatively, at least, garbage, there's no point getting a rosewill when there's much better brands like Corsair, Seasonic, or PC&P

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Modular 750W Gold+ power supply, for cheaper

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

950W Silver.

I'd reccomend the corsair over anything else at that price range, the HX750/850 have one of the highest consistent power output at that price range and have Corsairs Great customer service.

Your current Xeon is an i7-3770 rehash with no Intel HD GPU
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a b V Motherboard
January 26, 2013 5:19:13 PM

Don't buy a Xeon if you're not running a server or heavy workstation applications. Get an i5 or i7 instead. The people who are recommending Xeons are wrong wrong wrong.
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a c 81 V Motherboard
January 26, 2013 5:26:39 PM

There's nothing wrong with going with a xeon, it performance is as a good as a i7-3770, he doesn't want to oc, a xeon is a good option for editing, the h77 motherboard fully supports the cpu in question.
The i5-3470 is cheaper though.
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January 26, 2013 6:48:07 PM

the ASRock Z77 extream4 supports the xeon 1240 v2 as well, im a fan of hyper threading and that i5 runs at 200 MHrz less then the xeon, so im not too giddy about that i5-3470.

"Your current Xeon is an i7-3770 rehash with no Intel HD GPU"

i don't want intel HD GPU trash, if i did i wouldn't be going for the Radeon 7950 would i? rehash is more efficient and the i7 3770 was my first CPU choice...

your suggested PSUs are out of my price range.
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a c 81 V Motherboard
January 26, 2013 6:50:45 PM

Get the xeon and good luck with your build.
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a b V Motherboard
January 26, 2013 10:40:54 PM

ben s said:
the ASRock Z77 extream4 supports the xeon 1240 v2 as well, im a fan of hyper threading and that i5 runs at 200 MHrz less then the xeon, so im not too giddy about that i5-3470.

"Your current Xeon is an i7-3770 rehash with no Intel HD GPU"

i don't want intel HD GPU trash, if i did i wouldn't be going for the Radeon 7950 would i? rehash is more efficient and the i7 3770 was my first CPU choice...

your suggested PSUs are out of my price range.


There's nothing wrong with integrated graphics - if something goes wrong with your GPU it's good to have it as a diagnostic tool. You can disable it very easily in the BIOS.
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February 5, 2013 11:59:18 PM

Best answer selected by ben s.
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