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January 24, 2013 11:03:15 PM

Hello!
I am building my own system for the first time now, and have a few questions regarding components.
My computer will be used only and entirely for gaming, meaning no music, no movies, no pictures, no editing software such as CS6 or Cinema 3D Max, nothing. Games and only games. Here's the problem: my budget is not too high, nor too low. Component prices in my country are rather higher compared to prices in the US and rest of Europe, limiting what I can actually buy.
For this reason, I decided to go with AMD since its considerably cheaper than Intel.
So here's whats bugging me: Should I go with Phenom II x4 965 BE, A10-5800k or FX X8 8320 Box?
As far as the graphics card is concerned, I've decided to go with a 7870. MSI R7870 2GB GDDR5 256bit, R7870 Twin Frozr 2GD5/OC to be exact.
Also, what I was wondering is if I will be able to (using one of these CPU's paired with that GPU) play 2012/2013 games on ultra (16x AA is not necessary) or at least very high graphic settings?
Thanks in advance!

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January 24, 2013 11:18:05 PM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($129.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock 970 Extreme3 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($84.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: MSI Radeon HD 7850 2GB Video Card ($196.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case ($67.41 @ Mac Connection)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 620W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($78.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($15.98 @ Outlet PC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $764.29
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-24 20:17 EST-0500)

The fx-6300 is a very capable cpu and I put the gpu you wanted in the build
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January 24, 2013 11:25:02 PM

He wanted a 7870 not a 7850.

DeviantClam, as far as CPU is concerned, get an fx-6300. It will be great for everything you need it to do.

The 7870 will play modern games on high/max settings no problem.

Make sure to get a good quality PSU. (Antec, XFX, Seasonic, Corsair)

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January 24, 2013 11:28:23 PM

I am really trying to get as much info as I can before I rush in and buy anything, been reading reviews and observing benchmarks for a while now, and getting a bit tired of it.. Another thing that bothers me, is Intel, namely i5-3570k really a whole lot better than AMD's Phenom and FX series?
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January 24, 2013 11:30:05 PM

Its MUCH better than the Phenom series. (over 2-3 years old). As far as gaming, its better than the fx series also.

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January 24, 2013 11:38:36 PM

I think I should reconsider my build then, and maybe scratch up some more money. Last time I played anything that remotely looks like something was back in 2007 when my old computer was still somewhat useful. I am trying to build a system that can run today's games at high resolution with a stable 60 FPS, ultra settings. I suppose that would mean that getting an Intel is a must?
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January 24, 2013 11:41:23 PM

Its not a must. You can make a perfectly good gaming build with an fx-6300 or fx-8xxx. Most people just prefer an i5 as it seems to be king of gaming computers and performance for money.
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January 24, 2013 11:42:10 PM

Well, alright, I guess thats it for now. Thanks for the help everyone, appreciate it. :) 
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January 24, 2013 11:42:25 PM

What is your budget? i should be able to put something together to meet your needs perfectly.
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January 25, 2013 12:23:38 AM

tiny voices said:
What is your budget? i should be able to put something together to meet your needs perfectly.

Well, its hard to talk about a budget and component prices, because as I fore-mentioned, components are a lot more expensive here. Even if I order internationally, the shipping and taxes would pretty much make ordering pointless. But here's something I had in mind:
CPU INTEL CORE I5 3570K BOX, S. 1155, 3.4GHZ, 6MB CACHE, GPU, QUADCORE 1.793,08 kn
MOBO ASROCK Z77 PRO4-M, IZ77, DDR3, ZVUK, S-ATA, RAID, G-LAN, VGA, PCI-E 3.0, CROSSFIREX, HDMI, DVI, D-SUB, USB 3.0, ESATA, MATX, S. 1155 698,28 kn
PSU 600W, CORSAIR CX SERIES, CP-9020048-EU, ATX2 V2.3, 120MM VENT. 566,10 kn
MEMORY PC-12800, 8 GB, G.SKILL F3-12800CL9Q-8GBNQ DDR3 1600MHZ, KIT 4X2GB 199,00 kn
COOLER SCYTHE KATANA 4 SCKTN-4000, SOCKET 775/1155/1156/1366/2011/754/939/940/AM2/AM2+/AM3/AM3+/FM1 229,08 kn
GPU Sapp.HD 7870 2GB GHz ed. HDMI,2xDVI, mDP 1.993,55 kn
TVRDI DISK 1000.0 GB TOSHIBA DT01ACA100, SATA3, 32MB CACHE, 7200 RPM 560,28 kn
DVD?RW ASUS DRW-24B5ST/BLK/B/AS, 24X, SATA, DUAL LAYER, CRNA, BULK 125,10 kn

Bear in mind that the currency rate is around 1 USD = 5.80 kn
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January 25, 2013 12:30:14 AM

Think it could meet my gaming needs? According to reviews, the GTX 600 series mop the floor with the 7800s, even with a 7970. :/ 
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January 25, 2013 12:35:56 AM

DeviantClam said:
Think it could meet my gaming needs? According to reviews, the GTX 600 series mop the floor with the 7800s, even with a 7970. :/ 


Well those reviews must be very biased. Look at some benchmarks. The 7870 beats the gtx660 and keeps up the the 660ti most of the time for less money. The 7970 will mop the floor with a gtx 670 any day.
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January 25, 2013 12:36:22 AM

I have a 7870 and I can max basically any game at 1080p.
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January 25, 2013 12:41:56 AM

I also should note that I won't be doing any overclocking, since I have no knowledge and am not willing to risk ruining my components. Considering that, maybe I shouldn't buy a 3570k, but get a regular 3570 instead.
What about PhysX and 16xAA? Can a 7870 handle it?
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January 25, 2013 12:44:50 AM

AMD doesn't have physx. There is only really one game that uses it. Batman Arkham City. Its a dying thing. Only 2 games in 2012 used it. I don't know about 16x AA. That's something for cards out of your budget. 8xAA shouldn't be a problem. My 7870 maxes skyrim and i run 8xAA at 55FPS.
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January 25, 2013 12:45:28 AM

If you arent going to overclock, get a i5 3470 and an H77 motherboard. Use the saved money to afford a better GPU.
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January 25, 2013 12:47:32 AM

Well thats pretty reasonable. To be honest, I am aware that I am trying to squeeze out maybe a bit too much for my budget, but I just want to have as much as I possibly can for the money I invest in my future rig. Converted to USD, my budget will be approximately $1200, give or take.
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January 25, 2013 12:50:14 AM

Get the 3470+H77 motherboard. Drop the aftermarket cooler because the one in the box is perfectly fine if you aren't overclocking. Use the saved money to get a 7950.
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January 25, 2013 12:59:10 AM

But stick to the i5-3570? Or is there a AMD which can pair up with it (and cost less, hopefully)?
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January 25, 2013 1:12:50 AM

Get the i5-3470. You could go with an AMD fx-8xxx if you want but I would recommend the i5 over it for gaming.
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January 25, 2013 1:14:51 AM

Not much of a difference between 3470 and 3570 in performance, or?
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January 25, 2013 1:16:03 AM

Nothing noticeable at all. Just overclocking ability basically.
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January 25, 2013 1:17:01 PM

Could you please link me the H77 mobo? I can't seem to find a 1155 socket one, they're mostly AM3, etc.
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