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Need Recommendation ($1000 Budget) Gaming Pc for Arma 3

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January 25, 2013 12:15:01 AM

I understand there are alot of these threads around and I don't mean to waste peoples time but I hear the expertise of the members on this forum is high and that there are some members here with understanding and experience light years beyond my own.

That being said im interested in getting a gaming pc for upcoming Arma 3, and secondary games like battlefield 3 etc. will also be played on it but Arma 3 is my main focus.

Want to run this at as high settings as possible and my budget can be pushed upwards to $1500 but would really appreciate a 1000-1200 build with a few things highlighted that I could get to further the quality if i wanted to spend a bit of extra $

This is a new build and I have no parts to transfer but will source a monitor seperately (Although recommendations here would still be highly appreciated)


Anyway I hope there is someone out there who can take the time to recommend something for me and help me out as this would save me much time and money wasted on fooling around myself.

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January 25, 2013 12:40:45 AM

There's three cases I love:

Cooler Master HAF X - if you want a ton of features and can afford it, it's a fantastic case.

Corsair C70 - I love this case. It's pretty cheap, looks great and has everything you need.

Cooler Master Storm Enforcer - if you don't want to spend a ton on your case, this one is an awesome pick. It looks cool and doesn't skimp on the touches that make a case easy to work with.

Up to you on what you like the look of best.

Power supplies are very, very important. I really can't stress that enough. If you cheap out on a PSU and get a no-name brand or a poorly reviewed one on the cheap, you can literally destroy key components in your computer. A stable, clean and efficient PSU is top priority. I recommend something like the Corsair TX-750. For this build, 750watt is as low as I'd want, but you could probably get away with a bit lower. Up to you.

I think Arma 3 is fairly CPU intensive (for a video game, anyway). I'd go with an i5 3570K. Pick up the amazing value CPU cooler, the Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO to top it off. That should easily overclock to 4.2Ghz and stay cool.

Motherboard is a very easy choice: ASRock Z77 Extreme4. It's cheap, reliable, does it's job and overclocks simply. It's well reviewed for a reason!

*** Important note***

I see a lot of people get motherboards that aren't at least Z77 and wonder why they can't overclock. You need at least a Z77 to overclock a CPU, even when it's a "K" variant.

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For GPUs (graphics cards) I personally love the GTX 670 and recommend it for most any gamer. It very nearly matches the 680 and SLIs like a champ. The 660 Ti is a distant second. While not a bad card, I think it's better to spend a tiny bit more and get the 670, but to each their own.

I don't like Radeon cards, so I don't recommend them. Some people love them and find them fantastic value and overclockers. But I've fond them unreliable; Crossfire, despise updates, is miles behind SLI and I find even the lone cards tend to spend a lot more time in the 99% than Nvidia cards, meaning Radeon renders a choppier image. Just my opinion. Take it for what it's worth.

RAM is often oversold and overhyped among enthusiasts. The truth is, the speed and timings of RAM make virtually no difference to video game performance. Hardcore overclocking and timing tweaks might, maybe, perhaps see a single frame improvement. Maybe. Honestly, I say pick up some Corsair RAM that you like the look of and find cheap enough. 1333mhz is perfectly, 100% fine and often surprisingly cheaper than faster RAM.

Hope this helps at least a little!
Matilda~
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January 25, 2013 12:54:28 AM

Great really appreciate such a quick response

Will cost your suggestion out


Still love to hear from others with what they think and again thanks for your in depth response
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January 25, 2013 1:10:02 AM

Don't want to overclock.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($209.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock H77 Pro4/MVP ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($87.55 @ Newegg)
Memory: Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($38.50 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card ($369.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cougar Volant (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.98 @ Outlet PC)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($53.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($15.98 @ Outlet PC)
Monitor: Asus VE248H 24.0" Monitor ($181.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Keyboard: Logitech Wireless Combo MK260 Wireless Standard Keyboard w/Optical Mouse ($24.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1192.91
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-24 22:07 EST-0500)

Want to overclock:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($124.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($38.50 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card ($369.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cougar Volant (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.98 @ Outlet PC)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($53.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($15.98 @ Outlet PC)
Monitor: Asus VE248H 24.0" Monitor ($181.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Keyboard: Logitech Wireless Combo MK260 Wireless Standard Keyboard w/Optical Mouse ($24.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1270.35
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-24 22:09 EST-0500)

These rigs will run any games on high/ultra settings for some time to come.
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January 25, 2013 3:29:22 AM

cball1311 thanks alot for your suggestion!

You have all taken a good amount of time to help me out and its really pleasantly supprising

@masterman467 nice!
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January 25, 2013 9:36:45 AM

What do people think about this??

Obviously with the bulk of it taken from the great advice above especially matilda!

CPU Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core
$219.99 @ Newegg
CPU Cooler

Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing
$29.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard

ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155
$124.99 @ Newegg
Memory

Corsair XMS3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333
$39.98 @ NCIX US
Video Card

Asus GeForce GTX 670 2GB
$386.98 @ SuperBiiz
Sound Card

Asus Xonar D1
$89.74 @ Mwave
Case

Corsair C70 Military Green (Green) ATX Mid Tower
$132.98 @ Newegg
Power Supply Corsair 750W ATX12V / EPS12V
$69.99 @ Newegg
Optical Drive

Asus BW-12B1ST/BLK/G/AS Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer
$59.99 @ Newegg
Total: $1129.63



Don't...

Bump posts


http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/283384-33-read-first

People will comment in their own time.
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January 26, 2013 7:08:36 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4et7kDGSRfc

skip to 7:10

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor ($162.28 @ TigerDirect)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock 970DE3/U3S3 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($46.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($97.99 @ Adorama)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card ($369.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Rosewill Hive 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($15.98 @ Outlet PC)
Monitor: Acer G236HLBbd 60Hz 23.0" Monitor ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $1153.15
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-26 04:08 EST-0500)
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January 26, 2013 9:10:49 AM

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/zF3U
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/zF3U/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/zF3U/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£161.99 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler (£57.11 @ Ebuyer)
Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V ATX LGA1155 Motherboard (£126.98 @ Novatech)
Memory: Crucial 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£32.36 @ Dabs)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£67.68 @ Aria PC)
Storage: Intel 520 Series Cherryville 180GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (£140.00 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card (£199.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Case: Corsair 500R White ATX Mid Tower Case (£97.00 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: Corsair Enthusiast 750W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply (£80.31 @ Ebuyer)
Optical Drive: Sony AD-7280S-0B DVD/CD Writer (£17.63 @ CCL Computers)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) (£67.96 @ CCL Computers)
Keyboard: Microsoft Sidewinder X4 (UK Layout) Wired Standard Keyboard (£32.99 @ Novatech)
Mouse: Saitek CCB437030002/04/1 Wired Laser Mouse (£34.99 @ Novatech)
Total: £1116.99
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-26 11:10 GMT+0000)
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January 26, 2013 9:15:18 AM

EasyTransfer said:
PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/zF3U
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/zF3U/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/zF3U/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£161.99 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler (£57.11 @ Ebuyer)
Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V ATX LGA1155 Motherboard (£126.98 @ Novatech)
Memory: Crucial 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£32.36 @ Dabs)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£67.68 @ Aria PC)
Storage: Intel 520 Series Cherryville 180GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (£140.00 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card (£199.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Case: Corsair 500R White ATX Mid Tower Case (£97.00 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: Corsair Enthusiast 750W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply (£80.31 @ Ebuyer)
Optical Drive: Sony AD-7280S-0B DVD/CD Writer (£17.63 @ CCL Computers)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) (£67.96 @ CCL Computers)
Keyboard: Microsoft Sidewinder X4 (UK Layout) Wired Standard Keyboard (£32.99 @ Novatech)
Mouse: Saitek CCB437030002/04/1 Wired Laser Mouse (£34.99 @ Novatech)
Total: £1116.99
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-26 11:10 GMT+0000)



OP needs monitor
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January 26, 2013 9:15:23 AM

If you can spend this much than go for it, this is a beast.

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/zF3U
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/zF3U/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/zF3U/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($80.76 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($187.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Crucial 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($41.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Intel 520 Series Cherryville 180GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($189.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($376.48 @ NCIX US)
Case: Corsair 500R White ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Enthusiast 750W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Sony AD-7280S-0B DVD/CD Writer ($25.97 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Keyboard: Microsoft Sidewinder X4 (UK Layout) Wired Standard Keyboard
Mouse: Saitek CCB437030002/04/1 Wired Laser Mouse ($52.52 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1500.62
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-26 06:14 EST-0500)
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January 26, 2013 9:17:28 AM

Also the mobo isn't that great for it's price, you might as well go Gigabyte UD5H or UP 4 that that price range and will have better stuff inside of it
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January 26, 2013 9:36:12 AM

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/zF9v
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/zF9v/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/zF9v/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($80.76 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-D3H ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($41.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.98 @ Outlet PC)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($97.99 @ Adorama)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($376.48 @ NCIX US)
Case: Corsair 400R ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Enthusiast 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Sony AD-7280S-0B DVD/CD Writer ($25.97 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Asus VE248H 24.0" Monitor ($181.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Keyboard: Microsoft Sidewinder X4 (UK Layout) Wired Standard Keyboard
Mouse: Saitek CCB437030002/04/1 Wired Laser Mouse ($52.52 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1497.61
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-26 06:35 EST-0500)

Monitor now included and mobo changed
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January 27, 2013 3:23:55 AM

Greatly appreciate the amount of responses, and detailed ones at that,

I have to ask though whether the Sapphire Radeon HD 7950 3GB is better than the GTX 670?

After some searching im inclined to believe that for its price the Gtx 670 is perfect for games like Bf3 and Arma 3?

The extra few dollars doesn't bother me,

Also what kind of level of settings will my proposed setup allow me to play most games at and what kind of FPS can I expect from this?

Appreciate any and all responses
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January 27, 2013 4:46:30 AM

Thanks for the link reafirmed what I had suspected and read,

nearly 70FPS!

Thats fantastic.

Just going to make a revised setup that im considering and will repost,

Certainly be interested in your and others opinion as a second draft so to speak with minor adjustments
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January 27, 2013 5:22:32 AM

Also having troubles picking a soundcard if someone could assist?
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January 27, 2013 5:28:57 AM

No need for a sound card as the motherboard has 7.1 channel integrated.
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January 27, 2013 5:56:43 AM

Great thanks for the advice Cball you have been a consistent help
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January 27, 2013 6:05:44 AM

No problem :) . What did you end up choosing for your build. I see a bunch of suggestions but none of your thoughts. We like to hear from the OP too :D 
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January 27, 2013 6:06:12 AM

Final Parts list comments are much appreciated


CPU Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor $229.99 -$10.00 FREE $219.99 Newegg
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CPU Cooler
Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler $29.99 FREE $29.99 Best Buy
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Motherboard
ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard $134.99 -$10.00 $124.99 Microcenter
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Memory
Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory $38.50 $38.50 NCIX US
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Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $69.99 FREE $69.99 Amazon
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Asus GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card $398.99 -$20.00 $7.99 $386.98 SuperBiiz
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Case
Corsair C70 Military Green (Green) ATX Mid Tower Case $129.99 FREE $129.99 Amazon
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Corsair Enthusiast 750W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply $109.99 -$20.00 $4.99 $94.98 Newegg
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Optical Drive
Sony AD-7280S-0B DVD/CD Writer $18.99 $6.98 $25.97 Newegg
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January 27, 2013 6:06:54 AM

Best answer selected by Heath10125.
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January 29, 2013 4:46:30 AM

Yeah im really excited with this and will update pics if thats possible when I get the parts + when i set it all up,

Truly all the help i've received has been much appreciated.


Although i have one final question regarding the cpu cooler,

I have had someone who knows alot about computers inform me that the heatsink that comes with the intel cpu is very good and a third party one might be unescesary,

Would really appreciate thoughts on this although he doesn't really know how much gaming ill be doing i'd be interested in your valued opinions.
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January 29, 2013 4:57:20 AM

Heath10125 said:
Yeah im really excited with this and will update pics if thats possible when I get the parts + when i set it all up,

Truly all the help i've received has been much appreciated.


Although i have one final question regarding the cpu cooler,

I have had someone who knows alot about computers inform me that the heatsink that comes with the intel cpu is very good and a third party one might be unescesary,

Would really appreciate thoughts on this although he doesn't really know how much gaming ill be doing i'd be interested in your valued opinions.

Stock settings: the cooler that comes with it is perfectly fine.

Any overclocking at all: you need an aftermarket cooler. Ivy Bridge heats up a LOT when overclocked.
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January 29, 2013 5:30:34 AM

With attempting to run games like Arma 3 at as high quality as possible will overclocking be something I should definitely consider?
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January 29, 2013 5:37:44 AM

Heath10125 said:
With attempting to run games like Arma 3 at as high quality as possible will overclocking be something I should definitely consider?

It will only make a difference in some games. Borderlands 2, for example, sees about 15 frames improvement from 3.8Ghz to 4.5Ghz on the same CPU.

There's no reason not to overclock if you have the cooler for it.

BTW: there's no reason to get the K version of that CPU if you aren't going to overclock it.
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January 29, 2013 6:13:22 AM

Firespert said:
I would actually recommend a AMD fx-8350.
http://teksyndicate.com/videos/amd-fx-8350-oc-vs-i5-357...

The tests show that it beats the more expensive 3570k in both Arma2 and BF3. Also, crossfire a pair of http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... and you got yourself a nice gaming rig right there.


Im thinking about getting the Gtx 670, Think that outperforms the one you showed especially in the games im looking at but would be interested in your opinion if you believe otherwise?


Also just want to remind people that arma 3 (Although I understand specs aren't released) is my primary focus.
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January 29, 2013 6:13:48 AM

Also would be interested in Matilda's view on the video you posted?

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January 29, 2013 6:13:58 AM

Firespert said:
I would actually recommend a AMD fx-8350.
http://teksyndicate.com/videos/amd-fx-8350-oc-vs-i5-357...

The tests show that it beats the more expensive 3570k in both Arma2 and BF3. Also, crossfire a pair of http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... and you got yourself a nice gaming rig right there.

Ew. No. The only reason to use AMD is if you aren't getting a dedicated GPU.
They will lose every time in gaming with a dedicated card.
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January 29, 2013 6:14:41 AM

Heath10125 said:
Also would be interested in Matilda's view on the video you posted?

Video? I see no video.

Am I going blind? lol
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January 29, 2013 6:15:54 AM

The first link is a video comparison,
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January 29, 2013 6:20:27 AM

Also want to add that I have read discussion namely in the comments of that video ( A terribly reliable source ) that the AMD would outperform the intel in Arma 2 and through that I assume this will be a transferable difference to Arma 3?

Can I just ask is the difference going to be noticeable at all or is this a war of marginal statistics that have no bearing on visual fidelity or smoothness of gameplay?
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January 29, 2013 6:24:16 AM

There's enough of a difference for there to be no reason to get a 8350 over an i5 3570(K) for gaming.

AMD just can't compete in the higher end gaming world. Hell, the i5 and i7 Ivy's do just as good a job in threaded applications now.
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January 29, 2013 6:35:53 AM

Heath10125 said:
Im thinking about getting the Gtx 670, Think that outperforms the one you showed especially in the games im looking at but would be interested in your opinion if you believe otherwise?


Also just want to remind people that arma 3 (Although I understand specs aren't released) is my primary focus.


Crossfire 7850 will outperform a single gtx 670, but uses more power and with a gtx 670 it can use SLI giving a bigger boost in performance.
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January 29, 2013 6:38:49 AM

Firespert said:
Crossfire 7850 will outperform a single gtx 670, but uses more power and with a gtx 670 it can use SLI giving a bigger boost in performance.

Crossfire is also prone to microstutter and generally non-smooth gameplay.
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January 29, 2013 6:54:47 AM

Think im sold on the Gtx 670 to be honest,

Especially after my research and strong recommendations from my trusted source Matilda,

I think that about wraps up my parts requirements,

Although I would like to get your opinion on the monitor I was suggested by an earlier poster.

The http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-monitor-vs239hp

Budget for the monitor is 200$

but if the difference is minor i'd like to save the extra 50$
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January 29, 2013 6:58:05 AM

Firespert said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uxc_V5fwC80
Looks fine to me.

Youtube shows videos at much lower FPS than you'd experience in gameplay.

Trust me, Radeon cards are much more stutter prone. Look at the time they spend in 99% frame compared to Nvidia cards. Crossfire is also inferior to SLI in terms of stability.
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January 29, 2013 7:11:40 AM

Any comments on the monitor?

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January 29, 2013 7:53:09 AM

Actually don't know a ton about monitors. I'm more of a hardware gal.

From what I know, it looks nice. A slightly lower response time would be nice; I think 2-3ms is ideal, but how much of a difference that actually makes, I have no idea. Seems like it'd be very minute.

1920 x 1080 is supported by that GPU and looks great. No problem there.

It's not the biggest. I would want bigger than that, personally. But if you're happy with it, no issue. Just comes down to what you like and can afford in that regard.

Any idea on the warranty? Nothing is worse than a dead or dying screen that's out of warranty.
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January 29, 2013 8:06:57 AM

What would you prefer as an optimal screen size?

Also to contextualise that what kind of games do you play?
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January 29, 2013 8:16:33 AM

I'd want 24" or more at the lower end, but I don't think it matters very much at all. Just depends on what is big enough for your eyes and the distance from the screen you sit at.

Oh I play everything. Lately I only play APB and Combat Arms with my boyfriend, but games I've enjoyed on my current computer, all at maximum settings include:

Civilization IV
Civilization V
Crysis 1
Crysis Warhead
Crysis 2
Mas Effect 1
Mass Effect 2
Morrowind
Oblivion
Skyrim
Modern Warfare 1
Modern Warfare 2
Black Ops
Brink
Limbo
Fallout
Fallout 2
Fallout Tactics
Fallout 3
Fallout New Vegas
Metro 2033
Borderlands
Borderlands 2
Torchlight
Torchlight 2
Team Fortress 2
Tropico 4
Portal
Guild Wars
Guild Wars 2
Prison Architect
The Old Republic

Etc., etc.

If it exists, I've played it lol
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January 29, 2013 8:30:38 AM

Nice!

So a well versed and rounded gamer :) 

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January 29, 2013 10:34:54 AM

Not too shabby! Nice warranty. Nice specs. Not a bad price.

Out of curiosity, how far from your screen do you sit?
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January 29, 2013 11:04:27 AM

To my current one not very far, Maybe an arms length and a half
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