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Need Recommendation ($1000 Budget) Gaming Pc for Arma 3

I understand there are alot of these threads around and I don't mean to waste peoples time but I hear the expertise of the members on this forum is high and that there are some members here with understanding and experience light years beyond my own.

That being said im interested in getting a gaming pc for upcoming Arma 3, and secondary games like battlefield 3 etc. will also be played on it but Arma 3 is my main focus.

Want to run this at as high settings as possible and my budget can be pushed upwards to $1500 but would really appreciate a 1000-1200 build with a few things highlighted that I could get to further the quality if i wanted to spend a bit of extra $

This is a new build and I have no parts to transfer but will source a monitor seperately (Although recommendations here would still be highly appreciated)


Anyway I hope there is someone out there who can take the time to recommend something for me and help me out as this would save me much time and money wasted on fooling around myself.
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  1. Best answer
    There's three cases I love:

    Cooler Master HAF X - if you want a ton of features and can afford it, it's a fantastic case.

    Corsair C70 - I love this case. It's pretty cheap, looks great and has everything you need.

    Cooler Master Storm Enforcer - if you don't want to spend a ton on your case, this one is an awesome pick. It looks cool and doesn't skimp on the touches that make a case easy to work with.

    Up to you on what you like the look of best.

    Power supplies are very, very important. I really can't stress that enough. If you cheap out on a PSU and get a no-name brand or a poorly reviewed one on the cheap, you can literally destroy key components in your computer. A stable, clean and efficient PSU is top priority. I recommend something like the Corsair TX-750. For this build, 750watt is as low as I'd want, but you could probably get away with a bit lower. Up to you.

    I think Arma 3 is fairly CPU intensive (for a video game, anyway). I'd go with an i5 3570K. Pick up the amazing value CPU cooler, the Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO to top it off. That should easily overclock to 4.2Ghz and stay cool.

    Motherboard is a very easy choice: ASRock Z77 Extreme4. It's cheap, reliable, does it's job and overclocks simply. It's well reviewed for a reason!

    *** Important note***

    I see a lot of people get motherboards that aren't at least Z77 and wonder why they can't overclock. You need at least a Z77 to overclock a CPU, even when it's a "K" variant.

    *** ***

    For GPUs (graphics cards) I personally love the GTX 670 and recommend it for most any gamer. It very nearly matches the 680 and SLIs like a champ. The 660 Ti is a distant second. While not a bad card, I think it's better to spend a tiny bit more and get the 670, but to each their own.

    I don't like Radeon cards, so I don't recommend them. Some people love them and find them fantastic value and overclockers. But I've fond them unreliable; Crossfire, despise updates, is miles behind SLI and I find even the lone cards tend to spend a lot more time in the 99% than Nvidia cards, meaning Radeon renders a choppier image. Just my opinion. Take it for what it's worth.

    RAM is often oversold and overhyped among enthusiasts. The truth is, the speed and timings of RAM make virtually no difference to video game performance. Hardcore overclocking and timing tweaks might, maybe, perhaps see a single frame improvement. Maybe. Honestly, I say pick up some Corsair RAM that you like the look of and find cheap enough. 1333mhz is perfectly, 100% fine and often surprisingly cheaper than faster RAM.

    Hope this helps at least a little!
    Matilda~
  2. Great really appreciate such a quick response

    Will cost your suggestion out


    Still love to hear from others with what they think and again thanks for your in depth response
  3. Don't want to overclock.

    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

    CPU: Intel Core i5-3570 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($209.98 @ SuperBiiz)
    Motherboard: ASRock H77 Pro4/MVP ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($87.55 @ Newegg)
    Memory: Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($38.50 @ NCIX US)
    Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ Amazon)
    Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card ($369.99 @ Newegg)
    Case: Cougar Volant (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.98 @ Outlet PC)
    Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($53.99 @ NCIX US)
    Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($15.98 @ Outlet PC)
    Monitor: Asus VE248H 24.0" Monitor ($181.98 @ SuperBiiz)
    Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
    Keyboard: Logitech Wireless Combo MK260 Wireless Standard Keyboard w/Optical Mouse ($24.99 @ Amazon)
    Total: $1192.91
    (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
    (Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-24 22:07 EST-0500)

    Want to overclock:

    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

    CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.99 @ Newegg)
    CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Amazon)
    Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($124.99 @ Newegg)
    Memory: Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($38.50 @ NCIX US)
    Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ Amazon)
    Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card ($369.99 @ Newegg)
    Case: Cougar Volant (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.98 @ Outlet PC)
    Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($53.99 @ NCIX US)
    Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($15.98 @ Outlet PC)
    Monitor: Asus VE248H 24.0" Monitor ($181.98 @ SuperBiiz)
    Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
    Keyboard: Logitech Wireless Combo MK260 Wireless Standard Keyboard w/Optical Mouse ($24.99 @ Amazon)
    Total: $1270.35
    (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
    (Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-24 22:09 EST-0500)

    These rigs will run any games on high/ultra settings for some time to come.
  4. I believe Matilda hit the nail on the head about... everything. Obviously a very knowledgeable person.

    This:
    http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=21422245 Is what i'll be picking up in the next month or so.
  5. cball1311 thanks alot for your suggestion!

    You have all taken a good amount of time to help me out and its really pleasantly supprising

    @masterman467 nice!
  6. What do people think about this??

    Obviously with the bulk of it taken from the great advice above especially matilda!

    CPU Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core
    $219.99 @ Newegg
    CPU Cooler

    Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing
    $29.99 @ Amazon
    Motherboard

    ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155
    $124.99 @ Newegg
    Memory

    Corsair XMS3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333
    $39.98 @ NCIX US
    Video Card

    Asus GeForce GTX 670 2GB
    $386.98 @ SuperBiiz
    Sound Card

    Asus Xonar D1
    $89.74 @ Mwave
    Case

    Corsair C70 Military Green (Green) ATX Mid Tower
    $132.98 @ Newegg
    Power Supply Corsair 750W ATX12V / EPS12V
    $69.99 @ Newegg
    Optical Drive

    Asus BW-12B1ST/BLK/G/AS Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer
    $59.99 @ Newegg
    Total: $1129.63


    Don't...

    Bump posts


    http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/283384-33-read-first

    People will comment in their own time.
  7. And also what do people think about his monitor?

    http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-monitor-vs248hp
  8. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4et7kDGSRfc

    skip to 7:10

    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

    CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor ($162.28 @ TigerDirect)
    CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Amazon)
    Motherboard: ASRock 970DE3/U3S3 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($69.99 @ Amazon)
    Memory: Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($46.99 @ Newegg)
    Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ Amazon)
    Storage: Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($97.99 @ Adorama)
    Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card ($369.99 @ Newegg)
    Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Newegg)
    Power Supply: Rosewill Hive 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($49.99 @ Newegg)
    Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($15.98 @ Outlet PC)
    Monitor: Acer G236HLBbd 60Hz 23.0" Monitor ($109.99 @ Newegg)
    Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
    Total: $1153.15
    (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
    (Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-26 04:08 EST-0500)
  9. Heath10125 said:
    And also what do people think about his monitor?

    http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-monitor-vs248hp


    If you choose something that expensive, do it right with an IPS monitor then.

    http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-monitor-vs239hp

    cheaper and better pretty much
  10. PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/zF3U
    Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/zF3U/by_merchant/
    Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/zF3U/benchmarks/

    CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£161.99 @ Aria PC)
    CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler (£57.11 @ Ebuyer)
    Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V ATX LGA1155 Motherboard (£126.98 @ Novatech)
    Memory: Crucial 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£32.36 @ Dabs)
    Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£67.68 @ Aria PC)
    Storage: Intel 520 Series Cherryville 180GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (£140.00 @ Amazon UK)
    Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card (£199.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
    Case: Corsair 500R White ATX Mid Tower Case (£97.00 @ Aria PC)
    Power Supply: Corsair Enthusiast 750W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply (£80.31 @ Ebuyer)
    Optical Drive: Sony AD-7280S-0B DVD/CD Writer (£17.63 @ CCL Computers)
    Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) (£67.96 @ CCL Computers)
    Keyboard: Microsoft Sidewinder X4 (UK Layout) Wired Standard Keyboard (£32.99 @ Novatech)
    Mouse: Saitek CCB437030002/04/1 Wired Laser Mouse (£34.99 @ Novatech)
    Total: £1116.99
    (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
    (Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-26 11:10 GMT+0000)
  11. EasyTransfer said:
    PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/zF3U
    Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/zF3U/by_merchant/
    Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/zF3U/benchmarks/

    CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£161.99 @ Aria PC)
    CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler (£57.11 @ Ebuyer)
    Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V ATX LGA1155 Motherboard (£126.98 @ Novatech)
    Memory: Crucial 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£32.36 @ Dabs)
    Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£67.68 @ Aria PC)
    Storage: Intel 520 Series Cherryville 180GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (£140.00 @ Amazon UK)
    Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card (£199.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
    Case: Corsair 500R White ATX Mid Tower Case (£97.00 @ Aria PC)
    Power Supply: Corsair Enthusiast 750W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply (£80.31 @ Ebuyer)
    Optical Drive: Sony AD-7280S-0B DVD/CD Writer (£17.63 @ CCL Computers)
    Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) (£67.96 @ CCL Computers)
    Keyboard: Microsoft Sidewinder X4 (UK Layout) Wired Standard Keyboard (£32.99 @ Novatech)
    Mouse: Saitek CCB437030002/04/1 Wired Laser Mouse (£34.99 @ Novatech)
    Total: £1116.99
    (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
    (Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-26 11:10 GMT+0000)



    OP needs monitor
  12. If you can spend this much than go for it, this is a beast.

    PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/zF3U
    Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/zF3U/by_merchant/
    Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/zF3U/benchmarks/

    CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Microcenter)
    CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($80.76 @ Amazon)
    Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($187.98 @ SuperBiiz)
    Memory: Crucial 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($41.99 @ Newegg)
    Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($89.99 @ Amazon)
    Storage: Intel 520 Series Cherryville 180GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($189.98 @ SuperBiiz)
    Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($376.48 @ NCIX US)
    Case: Corsair 500R White ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.99 @ Newegg)
    Power Supply: Corsair Enthusiast 750W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($89.99 @ Newegg)
    Optical Drive: Sony AD-7280S-0B DVD/CD Writer ($25.97 @ Newegg)
    Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
    Keyboard: Microsoft Sidewinder X4 (UK Layout) Wired Standard Keyboard
    Mouse: Saitek CCB437030002/04/1 Wired Laser Mouse ($52.52 @ NCIX US)
    Total: $1500.62
    (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
    (Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-26 06:14 EST-0500)
  13. Also the mobo isn't that great for it's price, you might as well go Gigabyte UD5H or UP 4 that that price range and will have better stuff inside of it
  14. PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/zF9v
    Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/zF9v/by_merchant/
    Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/zF9v/benchmarks/

    CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Microcenter)
    CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($80.76 @ Amazon)
    Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-D3H ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($119.99 @ Newegg)
    Memory: Crucial 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($41.99 @ Newegg)
    Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.98 @ Outlet PC)
    Storage: Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($97.99 @ Adorama)
    Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($376.48 @ NCIX US)
    Case: Corsair 400R ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.99 @ Newegg)
    Power Supply: Corsair Enthusiast 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($79.99 @ Newegg)
    Optical Drive: Sony AD-7280S-0B DVD/CD Writer ($25.97 @ Newegg)
    Monitor: Asus VE248H 24.0" Monitor ($181.98 @ SuperBiiz)
    Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
    Keyboard: Microsoft Sidewinder X4 (UK Layout) Wired Standard Keyboard
    Mouse: Saitek CCB437030002/04/1 Wired Laser Mouse ($52.52 @ NCIX US)
    Total: $1497.61
    (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
    (Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-26 06:35 EST-0500)

    Monitor now included and mobo changed
  15. Greatly appreciate the amount of responses, and detailed ones at that,

    I have to ask though whether the Sapphire Radeon HD 7950 3GB is better than the GTX 670?

    After some searching im inclined to believe that for its price the Gtx 670 is perfect for games like Bf3 and Arma 3?

    The extra few dollars doesn't bother me,

    Also what kind of level of settings will my proposed setup allow me to play most games at and what kind of FPS can I expect from this?

    Appreciate any and all responses
  16. Here are some benchmarks using the reference 670 (nvidia stock clocks, etc.)

    http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_670/9.html

    All settings are on ultra. 1900x1200 is 1080p
  17. Thanks for the link reafirmed what I had suspected and read,

    nearly 70FPS!

    Thats fantastic.

    Just going to make a revised setup that im considering and will repost,

    Certainly be interested in your and others opinion as a second draft so to speak with minor adjustments
  18. Also having troubles picking a soundcard if someone could assist?
  19. No need for a sound card as the motherboard has 7.1 channel integrated.
  20. Great thanks for the advice Cball you have been a consistent help
  21. No problem :). What did you end up choosing for your build. I see a bunch of suggestions but none of your thoughts. We like to hear from the OP too :D
  22. Final Parts list comments are much appreciated


    CPU Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor $229.99 -$10.00 FREE $219.99 Newegg
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    $10 promotional gift card w/ purchase, ends 1/31

    CPU Cooler
    Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler $29.99 FREE $29.99 Best Buy
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    Motherboard
    ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard $134.99 -$10.00 $124.99 Microcenter
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    $10.00 mail-in rebate

    Memory
    Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory $38.50 $38.50 NCIX US
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    Add Additional Memory
    Storage
    Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $69.99 FREE $69.99 Amazon
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    Add Additional Storage
    Video Card
    Asus GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card $398.99 -$20.00 $7.99 $386.98 SuperBiiz
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    $20.00 Mail-in rebate

    Add Another Video Card For 2-Way SLI
    Sound Card Choose A Sound Card
    Case
    Corsair C70 Military Green (Green) ATX Mid Tower Case $129.99 FREE $129.99 Amazon
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    Power Supply
    Corsair Enthusiast 750W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply $109.99 -$20.00 $4.99 $94.98 Newegg
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    $20.00 mail-in rebate

    Optical Drive
    Sony AD-7280S-0B DVD/CD Writer $18.99 $6.98 $25.97 Newegg
    Remove
  23. Best answer selected by Heath10125.
  24. Yeah im really excited with this and will update pics if thats possible when I get the parts + when i set it all up,

    Truly all the help i've received has been much appreciated.


    Although i have one final question regarding the cpu cooler,

    I have had someone who knows alot about computers inform me that the heatsink that comes with the intel cpu is very good and a third party one might be unescesary,

    Would really appreciate thoughts on this although he doesn't really know how much gaming ill be doing i'd be interested in your valued opinions.
  25. Heath10125 said:
    Yeah im really excited with this and will update pics if thats possible when I get the parts + when i set it all up,

    Truly all the help i've received has been much appreciated.


    Although i have one final question regarding the cpu cooler,

    I have had someone who knows alot about computers inform me that the heatsink that comes with the intel cpu is very good and a third party one might be unescesary,

    Would really appreciate thoughts on this although he doesn't really know how much gaming ill be doing i'd be interested in your valued opinions.

    Stock settings: the cooler that comes with it is perfectly fine.

    Any overclocking at all: you need an aftermarket cooler. Ivy Bridge heats up a LOT when overclocked.
  26. With attempting to run games like Arma 3 at as high quality as possible will overclocking be something I should definitely consider?
  27. Heath10125 said:
    With attempting to run games like Arma 3 at as high quality as possible will overclocking be something I should definitely consider?

    It will only make a difference in some games. Borderlands 2, for example, sees about 15 frames improvement from 3.8Ghz to 4.5Ghz on the same CPU.

    There's no reason not to overclock if you have the cooler for it.

    BTW: there's no reason to get the K version of that CPU if you aren't going to overclock it.
  28. I would actually recommend a AMD fx-8350.
    http://teksyndicate.com/videos/amd-fx-8350-oc-vs-i5-3570k-oc-battle-continues

    The tests show that it beats the more expensive 3570k in both Arma2 and BF3. Also, crossfire a pair of http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202004 and you got yourself a nice gaming rig right there.
  29. Firespert said:
    I would actually recommend a AMD fx-8350.
    http://teksyndicate.com/videos/amd-fx-8350-oc-vs-i5-3570k-oc-battle-continues

    The tests show that it beats the more expensive 3570k in both Arma2 and BF3. Also, crossfire a pair of http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202004 and you got yourself a nice gaming rig right there.


    Im thinking about getting the Gtx 670, Think that outperforms the one you showed especially in the games im looking at but would be interested in your opinion if you believe otherwise?


    Also just want to remind people that arma 3 (Although I understand specs aren't released) is my primary focus.
  30. Also would be interested in Matilda's view on the video you posted?
  31. Firespert said:
    I would actually recommend a AMD fx-8350.
    http://teksyndicate.com/videos/amd-fx-8350-oc-vs-i5-3570k-oc-battle-continues

    The tests show that it beats the more expensive 3570k in both Arma2 and BF3. Also, crossfire a pair of http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202004 and you got yourself a nice gaming rig right there.

    Ew. No. The only reason to use AMD is if you aren't getting a dedicated GPU.
    They will lose every time in gaming with a dedicated card.
  32. Heath10125 said:
    Also would be interested in Matilda's view on the video you posted?

    Video? I see no video.

    Am I going blind? lol
  33. The first link is a video comparison,
  34. Also want to add that I have read discussion namely in the comments of that video ( A terribly reliable source ) that the AMD would outperform the intel in Arma 2 and through that I assume this will be a transferable difference to Arma 3?

    Can I just ask is the difference going to be noticeable at all or is this a war of marginal statistics that have no bearing on visual fidelity or smoothness of gameplay?
  35. There's enough of a difference for there to be no reason to get a 8350 over an i5 3570(K) for gaming.

    AMD just can't compete in the higher end gaming world. Hell, the i5 and i7 Ivy's do just as good a job in threaded applications now.
  36. Heath10125 said:
    Im thinking about getting the Gtx 670, Think that outperforms the one you showed especially in the games im looking at but would be interested in your opinion if you believe otherwise?


    Also just want to remind people that arma 3 (Although I understand specs aren't released) is my primary focus.


    Crossfire 7850 will outperform a single gtx 670, but uses more power and with a gtx 670 it can use SLI giving a bigger boost in performance.
  37. Firespert said:
    Crossfire 7850 will outperform a single gtx 670, but uses more power and with a gtx 670 it can use SLI giving a bigger boost in performance.

    Crossfire is also prone to microstutter and generally non-smooth gameplay.
  38. MatildaPersson said:
    Crossfire is also prone to microstutter and generally non-smooth gameplay.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uxc_V5fwC80
    Looks fine to me.
  39. Think im sold on the Gtx 670 to be honest,

    Especially after my research and strong recommendations from my trusted source Matilda,

    I think that about wraps up my parts requirements,

    Although I would like to get your opinion on the monitor I was suggested by an earlier poster.

    The http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-monitor-vs239hp

    Budget for the monitor is 200$

    but if the difference is minor i'd like to save the extra 50$
  40. Firespert said:

    Youtube shows videos at much lower FPS than you'd experience in gameplay.

    Trust me, Radeon cards are much more stutter prone. Look at the time they spend in 99% frame compared to Nvidia cards. Crossfire is also inferior to SLI in terms of stability.
  41. Any comments on the monitor?
  42. Actually don't know a ton about monitors. I'm more of a hardware gal.

    From what I know, it looks nice. A slightly lower response time would be nice; I think 2-3ms is ideal, but how much of a difference that actually makes, I have no idea. Seems like it'd be very minute.

    1920 x 1080 is supported by that GPU and looks great. No problem there.

    It's not the biggest. I would want bigger than that, personally. But if you're happy with it, no issue. Just comes down to what you like and can afford in that regard.

    Any idea on the warranty? Nothing is worse than a dead or dying screen that's out of warranty.
  43. What would you prefer as an optimal screen size?

    Also to contextualise that what kind of games do you play?
  44. I'd want 24" or more at the lower end, but I don't think it matters very much at all. Just depends on what is big enough for your eyes and the distance from the screen you sit at.

    Oh I play everything. Lately I only play APB and Combat Arms with my boyfriend, but games I've enjoyed on my current computer, all at maximum settings include:

    Civilization IV
    Civilization V
    Crysis 1
    Crysis Warhead
    Crysis 2
    Mas Effect 1
    Mass Effect 2
    Morrowind
    Oblivion
    Skyrim
    Modern Warfare 1
    Modern Warfare 2
    Black Ops
    Brink
    Limbo
    Fallout
    Fallout 2
    Fallout Tactics
    Fallout 3
    Fallout New Vegas
    Metro 2033
    Borderlands
    Borderlands 2
    Torchlight
    Torchlight 2
    Team Fortress 2
    Tropico 4
    Portal
    Guild Wars
    Guild Wars 2
    Prison Architect
    The Old Republic

    Etc., etc.

    If it exists, I've played it lol
  45. Nice!

    So a well versed and rounded gamer :)
  46. http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=558_1212&products_id=19410

    Any comments on this monitor people?

    IPS and 1ms response time looks pretty good?

    Also any other recommendations are warmly welcomed
  47. Not too shabby! Nice warranty. Nice specs. Not a bad price.

    Out of curiosity, how far from your screen do you sit?
  48. To my current one not very far, Maybe an arms length and a half
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