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Where can I save money and not downgrade my system?

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January 25, 2013 3:08:20 AM

Here was my first build: http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/381000-31-will-build-...
Complete crap, now Ive gotten a lot of advice from people and still really dont know where to go.

CPU Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor $229.99

Motherboard MSI Z77A-GD55 ATX LGA1155 $117.86

Memory Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 $44.99

Storage Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM $69.99

Video Card EVGA GeForce GTX 660 2GB $239.99

Case Cooler Master Storm Enforcer ATX Mid Tower $74.98

Power Supply Silverstone 600W ATX12V / EPS12V $64.64

Optical Drive Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer $24.98

Operating System Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) $89.98
Total: $957.40
This is the more expensive build and its actually close to $1000 thanks to that damn rebate stuff on pc picker

Second build around $900 almost the same parts but I question the PSU and Mobo

CPU Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core $219.99

Motherboard ASRock Z77 Performance ATX LGA1155 $119.99

Memory Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 $44.99

Storage Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM $69.99

Video Card EVGA GeForce GTX 660 2GB $209.99

Case Cooler Master Storm Enforcer ATX Mid Tower $74.98

Power Supply Raidmax 530W ATX12V / EPS12V $35.21

Optical Drive Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer $24.98

Operating System Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) $89.98
Total: Around $900

Any suggestions on less pricey parts? This computer will be upgraded over time once I get a job after wrestling, but I would prefer having nice parts for the meantime. I will be using steam and playing games Like Arma 2, Dayz, Blacklight Retribution, Skyrim, DCS-A10, Microsoft flight sims, and maybe a few mmos, ect. I would like to see more than 40fps on high to max settings if possible. This is asking a lot but where can I save if I can, and are there less sketchy parts for the same price (based on newegg reviews)? Like the name says, I'm a complete newbie on this stuff and dont know the best companys yet, and is a cpu cooler really needed? I know for overclocking and stuff its essential, but is it needed for the factory overclocked version? Thanks for looking this over and the advice.
January 25, 2013 3:11:34 AM

Neither of the PSU's are good. Switch with something from Antec, XFX, Corsair, Seasonic.

Both builds look good other than that. You can get a 7870 for the same as that gtx660 and it will be decently more powerful.

Do you plan to overclock the CPU?
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January 25, 2013 3:42:37 AM

Crap.....and I was originally all for the 7870, but the Project shield caught my eye hahah, and it suggests a 650 or higher and I've heard that the Nvidia cards are more accepted in most games. Overclocking will be a yes after I find the time and figure out how to do it, it does come pre clocked right? So I think that sould hold me over.
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January 25, 2013 3:46:26 AM

The 7870 will be better than the gtx660. That's just a given.
The CPU comes at stock clock speed. You raise it manually from there.

Also, a gtx650 is a very budget card and is worse than a 7770 by a considerable amount. On your budget I would strongly recommend the 7870. I have one and I love it.
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January 25, 2013 3:54:56 AM

Then whats the difference between the 3570, and 3570K? The site says the 3570K is faster then the plain 3570. If thats not true I could save a bit there. Can the stock 3570 reach as high as a overclocked 3570K?
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January 25, 2013 3:55:39 AM

The 3570 cannot be overclocked. Only "k" series CPU's can be overclocked.
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January 25, 2013 4:02:05 AM

Im starting to hate computers, which 7870 brand is the best? MSI? Or Asus or something else?
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January 25, 2013 4:02:49 AM

I have the gigabyte and I really like it. It stays SUPER cool and overclocks well.
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January 25, 2013 4:20:08 AM

I think I'm going to go with the PowerColor Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition 2GB Video Card, no bad reviews at all and its a great price, and the psu is now a Corsair Builder 500W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply. Hoping that should do it
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January 25, 2013 4:22:21 AM

It will be perfectly fine. The 7870 will suck 312w MAX under full 100% load. You could grab the cx600 to give yourself more room when you overclock the CPU/GPU.
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January 25, 2013 4:58:29 AM

Your not going to make that build much cheaper without losing a lot of performance as a result.
You can step down for a K series cpu to the non-k if your sure you will never OC.

Also as long as your case has front, rear, and top fans you should be fine with the stock intel cooler. However even a 30 dollar one is WAY better and highly recommended, especially if you do get a K series Intel.

Also you can get a cheaper motherboard. A motherboard with a H77 chipset should save you about 40-50 bucks.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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