GTX 660 TI vs AMD 7950

[Altiris]

Which card is better for the buck, they are all pretty much at the same price. I play Black Ops 2, BF3. Which card is better? There is also another game I play at with AA x4.

 

[esrever]

the 7950 is better.

 

[djangoringo]

Nope, the 660 ti is the better one and has better driver support and exclusive features, i'd go with a 660 ti from gigabyte (windforce 2x) or asus (dcuii).

http://techreport.com/review/23981/radeon-hd-7950-vs-geforce-gtx-660-ti-revisited/11

http://www.techspot.com/review/603-best-graphics-cards/page12.html

 

[thently]

This should give you what you want.

http://techreport.com/review/23981/radeon-hd-7950-vs-geforce-gtx-660-ti-revisited

 

[Hazle]

Which card is better for the buck, they are all pretty much at the same price. I play Black Ops 2, BF3. Which card is better? There is also another game I play at with AA x4.

7950

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2012/11/12/fall_2012_gpu_driver_comparison_roundup/4

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/Catalyst_12.11_Performance/5.html

capable of being OCed close to a 670's performance

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/HIS/HD_7950_X2_Boost/8.html

better memory bandwidth for higher texture settings/mods with less impact on performance
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-660-ti-memory-bandwidth-anti-aliasing,3283-11.html

4xAA? go crazy with 4-8xMSAA, if FXAA isn't your thing.

 

[Altiris]

Would the 3GB be better for the 4x anti aliasing? I also kind of wanted the 3 free games with the 7590, but if the GTX 660Ti greatly surpasses the 7950 then I will go for the GTX 660ti.

 

[esrever]

the 7950 is faster. The review from tech report is just bad since it is using windows 8 launch drivers which made the 660ti look much better than it is.

 

[Altiris]

Alright thanks everyone, I am upgrading from a 550ti. Hope this will be a bang for my buck.

 

[ilysaml]

Standard HD 7950 is faster a little bit than GTX 660ti, difference is not noticeable so go for the cheapest.

HD 7950 boost is comparable with GTX 670 and much better than GTX 660ti.

 

[antonisrsx]

+1 to 7950

 

[djangoringo]

Sure it is : http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/far_cry_3_graphics_performance_review_benchmark,6.html

With "boost" still less two fps, people forget that the 660 ti also overlocks and can reach levels of a 670 gtx when overlocked...


http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Zotac/GeForce_GTX_660_Ti_Amp_Edition/31.html

 

[drinkingcola86]

The techpowerup review has been the only site to show the improvements that people see in the 660Ti. However the 7950 has show its power since the very beginning.

I currently have a Sapphire 7950 and it has been an amazing card. Provided top notch FPS in any games that I've thrown at it. BF3, Planetside 2(since some of the optimizations), WoW, Dead Island, Minecraft, Firefall, and Guildwars 2. I've run almost every game on full graphics it is only my processor and my old ddr2 ram holding me back, which is changing shortly.

My reason why I got the 7950; the overclock is amazing on these cards(not that I've needed it yet), the 3gig of vram is going to last for about 3-4 years at the rate video games are going(few are pushing 1.5gb of vram), and the fact that I can xfire it a year from now and be topnotch again.

 

[JJ1217]

Sure it is : http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/far_cry_3_graphics_performance_review_benchmark,6.html

With "boost" still less two fps, people forget that the 660 ti also overlocks and can reach levels of a 670 gtx when overlocked...


http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Zotac/GeForce_GTX_660_Ti_Amp_Edition/31.html

That's one game and within the line of error. Sigh.. Fanboys.

 

[djangoringo]

I put more than one game, really more than a few ones and what most important it's the date of the test with the recent drivers.

Even with the newest amd drivers, techpowerup :

http://tpucdn.com/reviews/AMD/Catalyst_12.11_Performance/images/perfrel_1920.gif

And that was without the new nvidia drivers 310.70/64 that boost the performance...the difference was in favor without for nvidia and in favor with new drivers for 2% for amd, nvidia has more percentile fps, more smoothness and better drivers now, hence the techreport review is right.

 

[Hellsrage]

This should give you what you want.

http://techreport.com/review/23981/radeon-hd-7950-vs-geforce-gtx-660-ti-revisited

That review is not accurate, there is most certainly issues with the test they did, it also seems to be the only review that shows the scores like that, maybe because of their new setup, Win8? I don't know but they need to revisit that revisit. :lol:


Someone created this thread to talk about the review, but you can also check out the comments on the review itself, people who are far more technical than me are confused by the results aswell.
http://www.overclock.net/t/1334760/the-tech-report-radeon-hd-7950-vs-geforce-gtx-660-ti-revisited/140



As for what card, overall if you plan to OC I highly recommend the 7950.

 

[renz496]

both cards perform almost the same unless the game is specifically tweak to favor one of the architecture. if you play at 1080p both will give you good result in most games. if you still can't decide which card to take try looking at the games that you play or specific features that you want. if cost really matter to you then you might want to go with whatever is cheaper to you

 

[Rich_]

Let me say this. I currently have (and love) an Nvidia card in my computer. So now that this is out of the way.

AMD's new catalyst drivers have absolutely destroyed the Nvidia cards.

Nvidia did release new drivers as well, and there were performance improvements, but they are marginal. The best improvements were on a few cards seeing 4% improvement in resolutions 1600p and higher.

The 7950 has been seeing overclocks INTO overclocked 680 territory. Most 7950's no matter the quality, will give the user the ability to go at bare minimum, into the high range of 670 territory.

The 7950 and the 660ti are both 300 dollar cards.

You can crank out about 450$(sometimes MUCH more) worth of "nvidia power" on that 300$ 7950.

People will rage at this. People will disagree. But the facts are the facts. Fanboys are just whiney and butthurt and have zero impact on the actual results.

3 months ago, i would have said it's a tossup, and even leaned 660ti.

Now. I'd reccomend a 7950 over a 670. Much less a chopped off 670 (660ti 192bit vs 670 256 bit, both 1344 cuda cores) You'll get 384 bit + 1700'ish stream processor cores on the 7950. And it shows.

 

[Kiowa789]

Sure it is : http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/far_cry_3_graphics_performance_review_benchmark,6.html

With "boost" still less two fps, people forget that the 660 ti also overlocks and can reach levels of a 670 gtx when overlocked...


http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Zotac/GeForce_GTX_660_Ti_Amp_Edition/31.html

Yeah, and a 7950 can be overclocked past the 670, and the 680 (If done carefully enough).
Your argument is invalid.

 

[minidruid]

7950 hands down. Ive OC'd mine almost 20% and its trading blows with my friends 670 and beating it out on a few games.

The three free games is awesome too. All three of them are some of the best games to come out this year for the PC imo.

 

[Altiris]

Just found a problem, the Sapphire 7950 DOES NOT fit in my case (it is 11.40inches), almost everyone is saying to go for the 7950 so should I get the MSI Twin Frozr 7950 (that card is 10.28inches). The difference between them is $20, so basically I am paying $20 extra so that it will fit in my case, is that worth it or should I go for the 660TI?

 

[JJ1217]

Yeah Twin Frozr is a good cooler, just a little bit on the loud side when it goes under 100% load. Which Sapphire 7950 were you looking at? The Vapor-X or regular Dual X?

 

[Altiris]

This one http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202006

I looked at Sapphire's website and the boost version which is this one is 11inches long but then the non-boost version is around 10inch but I can't find it on newegg. So what should I do, pay $20 more for the MSI Twin Frozr 7950 or go for the 660Ti?

 

[Hellsrage]

Yeah Twin Frozr is a good cooler, just a little bit on the loud side when it goes under 100% load. Which Sapphire 7950 were you looking at? The Vapor-X or regular Dual X?

Hes talking about the Dual X version it's on sale at NewEgg for $299USD and it has a $20 rebate, I just order one of those a few days ago.

To OP, yeah go with the MSI.

 

[djangoringo]

Actually the 660ti gtx is more cheaper for about 40$-50$ to 7950 boost (Msi Twinfrozr or Sapphire vapor-x), it goes for more than 300$.
You can get a 660 ti good brand card for 269.99$ (comes with assassins creed 3) :

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125441

Less power consumption, less heat, less noise and it fits and about same performance with better drivers and smoothness, percentile fps.

 

[Hellsrage]

Actually the 660ti gtx is more cheaper for about 40$-50$ to 7950 boost (Msi Twinfrozr or Sapphire vapor-x), it goes for more than 300$.
You can get a 660 ti good brand card for 269.99$ (comes with assassins creed 3) :

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125441

Less power consumption, less heat, less noise and it fits and about same performance with better drivers and smoothness, percentile fps.

If you wanna start tying in games the 7950 comes with 3, on top of that the 7950 OC like crazy, overall it's just the best bang for the buck currently.