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January 25, 2013 1:53:25 PM

hello, i've been lurking here in this forum for years to look for answers when i have a problem with my pc but now finally came the time that i needed to make an account and post myself xD

this will be my first time building a PC and if i'm going to rate my knowledge of computers out of 10 (1 being the lowest), i'd say around 2? i really don't know anything about hardware so any piece of advice, lecture and criticism is very much appreciated

here's the list of components that i'm planning to include for my build:

motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

processor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

video card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

memory
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

psu
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

hard drives
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


i just chose things that are shown in the "may we suggest" part of newgg when looking at a product so i don't know if they're all compatible or not, specially the power supply. if it helps, i'm thinking of buying a 24" monitor and i'm gonna use it mainly for gaming. maybe a bit of video editing too.

i have no idea on choosing a case aside from the looks, but if its complicated then i'd say the appearance comes next to utility and compatibility. also, i don't know what hard drive to get but i read somewhere that its better to get a separate ssd for the os and another drive for the games and other files so i have two drives on the list.

i'd like to know which parts are not compatible, if there are better alternatives (balance on performance-price), and pretty much anything else that i need to know xD

thanks in advance and God bless :) 

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January 25, 2013 1:57:51 PM

i forgot to say that the budget isn't much of a problem. its just that don't want to overspend, like on another post where it says that i5 and i7 are pretty much the same when it comes to gaming so getting an i7 is overkill
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January 25, 2013 2:01:07 PM

Get a GIGABYTE UD3H Z77 for your motherboard, make the GPU a 670, cut the ram to 8GB, and you're rockin :)  everything else looks nice. I'll provide links if you want.
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January 25, 2013 2:02:55 PM

Also IF You're a first time builder, modular PSU's are a pain in the a$$. Took me like an hour more than it should have my first modular build. also don't go for the ASRock Extreme4, there's not enough fan connectors for most builds and the reset/power/led switch hook ups are super wonky.
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January 25, 2013 2:16:27 PM

can you tell me why should i get GIGABYTE UD3H Z77 instead of ASUS SABERTOOTH Z77? i'm new to this so i haven't heard about GIGABYTE. i only chose between asus and intel motherboards because they're the only ones i know xD

can you recommend an 8gb ram? the DDR thingy really is confusing me so i don't know which one to get. also about the PSU, can you recommend one that fits this build perfectly? i don't want to end up blowing/burning my cpu... lastly could you please provide links for cases that i can fit all these in? thanks thanks thanks
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January 25, 2013 2:19:49 PM

just get any DDR3 RAM that runs at 1600mhz, 1.5v, and 9 cas latency. i recommend mushkin. this would be nice: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Motherboard is kind of iffy. I'm pretty sure the ud3h holds like the 2nd highest overclock world record. overall motherboards offer almsot 0 fps boost. put that money towards a 670, ti is not trustworthy IMhO. also the sabertooth is overpriced. it just looks cool, thats the only reason its 250$
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January 25, 2013 2:21:23 PM

D'you mind just giving me your max budget? then I'll put something together for you :)  I just got my GTX 670 and I love it, so I highly recommend that
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January 25, 2013 2:29:04 PM

Well I gotta get offa here in a minuteso I guessed 1200$.
http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx...
If i had 1200$ and no computer I'd buy all of these parts. This is VERY similar to my buld (corsair C70 white, EVGA GTX 670, i7 3770k, ASRock Z77 Extreme4, 16gb ram. i dont suggest my mobo or psu. I like my psu (cx750) but it's a pain in the butt to work with.)
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January 25, 2013 2:32:09 PM

maybe around $1500 for the whole cpu? i haven't really thought about that yet coz i don't know if the components are available here so i might have to ship
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January 25, 2013 2:39:58 PM

thanks for the help! i might go for this build then but if you're not suggesting the mobo maybe i have to wait for other suggestions to come, specially about the psu or i might end up not just blowing the pc but burning the whole house
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January 25, 2013 2:49:20 PM

If you have $1500 to spend, I would go for this. The whole works, monitor, keyboard/mouse, OS. Hopefully you are not stuck on ordering from Newegg and you are located in the US.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($209.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Asus P8H77-V LE ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($106.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($38.50 @ NCIX US)
Storage: OCZ Vertex 4 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($114.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card ($399.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Antec Three Hundred Two ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 600W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($15.98 @ Outlet PC)
Monitor: Asus VE278H 27.0" Monitor ($259.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Keyboard: Logitech Wireless Combo MK260 Wireless Standard Keyboard w/Optical Mouse ($24.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1461.35
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-25 11:47 EST-0500)
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January 25, 2013 2:50:01 PM

Zed_Spooge said:
Well I gotta get offa here in a minuteso I guessed 1200$.
http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx...
If i had 1200$ and no computer I'd buy all of these parts. This is VERY similar to my buld (corsair C70 white, EVGA GTX 670, i7 3770k, ASRock Z77 Extreme4, 16gb ram. i dont suggest my mobo or psu. I like my psu (cx750) but it's a pain in the butt to work with.)



The MOBO in his newegg list (Gigabyte) is just fine, I believe the PSU is good too. He was saying he wouldn't recommend his MOBO (ASrock Extreme4) - which, actually is another good choice. So is his Corsair PSU. I have used both Gigabyte and Asrock MOBO's and like them both, but do personally prefer the Gigabyte.

Also, just in case you haven't thought of it yet, don't forget you will need an operating system (like windows).
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January 25, 2013 3:52:50 PM

thank you very much for your replies! i've learned a lot and i came up with this one

http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx...

what do you think? am i missing anything else for the cpu? it says the mobo comes with an on board lan so i'm assuming i don't need to get a separate one unless its no good?

regarding the other parts like keyboard, mouse, monitor and the speakers, i've got them all covered from my Christmas money (yaaay)
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January 25, 2013 4:02:38 PM

Looks pretty solid, just a few thoughts:

1) I, personally, would stay away from any "open box" items (like the mobo) though I have never purchased one so.....

2) If you are ordering soon from newegg it looks like the samsung SSD (a very good choice) is out of stock. Some good alternatives are:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... and

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

3) I know nothing about sound cards because in this day and age the onboard sound on any good mobo is good enough for anything except high end uses/audiophiles.

4) Don't forget an optical drive (cd/dvd/bluray) there are several from $15 and up...
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January 25, 2013 4:19:01 PM

Sorry, I also just noticed you have a "k" series cpu, which has an unlocked multiplier for overclocking and a "H77" mobo, which can not be overclocked.

You want to match these, if overclocking get the "k" series chip, and a "Z77" mobo. If not then get a non "k" chip and a "H77" mobo.
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January 25, 2013 4:33:45 PM

First off, don't spend $149 dollars for a 1TB HDD. Get the WD Blue for $69. The blacks are overpriced and only have a slight increase in reliability. Your case doesn't have front USB 3.0 ports that can be utilized from the USB 3.0 header on the motherboard, if you so choose. I would get the 7970 because you can overclock it much higher than the 670 and it has better performance in most games. You won't need a sound card. Motherboards have 7.1 integrated sound. Don't get the k version processor unless you want to overclock. If so, you need to get a Z77 motherboard and aftermarket cooler.

Here is a case that I would recommend from Newegg.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146061
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January 25, 2013 6:29:45 PM

The list is solid, but I don't see the point of that creative sound card. You are not getting much out of a discrete sound card compared to a build-in unless you spend more than $80.

Since you've mentioned video editing, I suppose i7 will be a better choice.

Rule of thumb for mother boards, don't spend over 150 bucks for one if you are not going for over clocking or dual video card setups. Try to avoid open boxes, go for big brands, Asus, Gigabyte...

Disagree with going cheap on hard drives. You never never want to wake up in the morning and find out your drive is dead and you just lost all your data. It probably didn't happen to the guy who recommend buying cheaper hard drives, and it probably never will... but it doesn't mean it won't happen to you.
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January 25, 2013 8:01:26 PM

wudai_e said:
The list is solid, but I don't see the point of that creative sound card. You are not getting much out of a discrete sound card compared to a build-in unless you spend more than $80.

Since you've mentioned video editing, I suppose i7 will be a better choice.

Rule of thumb for mother boards, don't spend over 150 bucks for one if you are not going for over clocking or dual video card setups. Try to avoid open boxes, go for big brands, Asus, Gigabyte...

Disagree with going cheap on hard drives. You never never want to wake up in the morning and find out your drive is dead and you just lost all your data. It probably didn't happen to the guy who recommend buying cheaper hard drives, and it probably never will... but it doesn't mean it won't happen to you.
:pfff: 

The blue drive will be just fine. If you are really worried about losing data, you can get two blue drives and RAID1 them and still be less than the black edition. Not worth it. Put the money into a more essential component (GPU or CPU). Depending on the extent of video editing (just for youtube or family videos), stick with the i5.
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January 25, 2013 8:49:05 PM

oh i have updated the list, i was searching for z77 and failed to notice it was h77 no wonder there were only 2 boards in the search results >_< and thanks i didn't know it already has an integrated sound card, saved me a few bucks that i can spend on another component
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January 25, 2013 9:19:06 PM

so if i'm going for a 3570k processor, i should get a z77 mobo with it but if i go for 3570 instead then take a h77 right?

aside from the unlocked overclocking, what else is the difference between them? do they have the same performance? i probably wont even try to bother with overclocking so i'll definitely go with the more user-friendly one
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January 25, 2013 10:09:41 PM

Yep and that is the only difference.
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January 25, 2013 10:49:53 PM

Perfect. :) 
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January 26, 2013 6:13:36 AM

thanks a lot!
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January 26, 2013 6:14:05 AM

Best answer selected by vc2846.
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