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January 26, 2013 8:50:16 PM

Hello, everyone. I'm putting together a build for a friend. Just want to check if everything checks out and is compatible. Also, looking for opinions and suggestions. Thanks. Also, I know I can save on the case, but that's the one he wants.

Few Things: He will not be overclocking, since he is has no experience with and has no knowledge of it. He wants to play Guild Wars 2 on max and Minecraft.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/zKo1

More about : 500 650 build friend

a b K Overclocking
January 26, 2013 9:03:48 PM

he would have played medium settings with the 7750 that you put inside the rig.

get this. performs A LOT better for cheaper
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/zKGk

-CPU can be price matched at us.ncix to save on shipping
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January 26, 2013 9:07:33 PM

TheBigTroll said:
he would have played medium settings with the 7750 that you put inside the rig.

get this. performs A LOT better for cheaper
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/zKGk

-CPU can be price matched at us.ncix to save on shipping



+1

im gettin similar build for myself for gw2 :) 
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a b K Overclocking
January 26, 2013 9:13:00 PM

I just upgraded the Big Troll's build

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i3-3220 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor ($121.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock B75M-DGS Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($58.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition 2GB Video Card ($217.98 @ NCIX US)
Case: Antec Three Hundred Illusion ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Antec Neo Eco 620W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($15.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $612.88
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-26 18:11 EST-0500)

It now features a better motherboard, faster CPU, faster graphics card, better case and power supply.
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a b K Overclocking
January 26, 2013 9:14:49 PM

Kept the case cuz your friend wants that one
Went with a stronger CPU and stronger GPU 650ti
Cheaper but still decent PSU
More ram
212+ arguably performas close enough to the EVO but you can still get the EVO if you want
Like the above build you can get a weaker/cheaper CPU and spend more on the graphics side
ASUS board for same build quality but save about $10
Hard drive is also the newest generation and faster

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($129.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus M5A97 LE R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($79.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($74.44 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 650 Ti 1GB Video Card ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Phantom 410 (Gunmetal/Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Antec Neo Eco 620W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($15.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $585.34
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-26 18:21 EST-0500)

Similar to above builds but the case is the original one

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i3-3220 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor ($121.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock B75M-DGS Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($58.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($74.44 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7850 2GB Video Card ($188.98 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Phantom 410 (Gunmetal/Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Antec Neo Eco 620W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($15.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $615.33
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-26 18:22 EST-0500)

If you can I would prefer getting a FX6300 over the i3 3220 since the extra $10 does get you more performance so you can still get a 7850 by getting a cheaper motherboard than the ASUS

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($129.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-78LMT-USB3 Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($50.38 @ NCIX US)
Memory: Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($74.44 @ Amazon)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7850 2GB Video Card ($172.08 @ NCIX US)
Case: NZXT Phantom 410 (Gunmetal/Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Antec Neo Eco 620W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($15.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $617.83
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-26 18:26 EST-0500)
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a b K Overclocking
January 26, 2013 9:17:51 PM

the 7870 beating the 660 very well depends on the game
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/548?vs=660

the 200R is a much better case than the 300 illusion. the illusion is just the regular 300 with a paintjob and new fans

wouldnt get the 3220. the performance difference is negligble

the xfx 450w is enough to power the system and is based on a newer seasonic design the neo eco. its more efficient and the fact that the system doesnt draw much power very well means 620w is useless
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a b K Overclocking
January 26, 2013 9:20:05 PM

recommending a 100 dollar case in a ~650 dollar build is terrible advice. they are generally for the 1100 and above rigs
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a b K Overclocking
January 26, 2013 9:25:30 PM

I agree with The Big Troll, except for using the case your friend wants. I've played GW2 on a variety of hardware. A HD7770 or GTX650Ti will play it "well," but if he wants "max," he'll need the HD7870 or GTX660[maybe Ti].
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a b K Overclocking
January 26, 2013 9:29:40 PM

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/zKZb
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/zKZb/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/zKZb/benchmarks/

CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($84.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Best Buy)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($104.98 @ NCIX US)
Memory: Corsair XMS3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($37.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Diamond Radeon HD 5850 1GB Video Card ($151.20 @ Compuvest)
Case: NZXT Phantom 410 (Gunmetal/Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($53.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($15.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $614.10
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-26 18:29 EST-0500)

Base Total: $624.10
Mail-in Rebates: -$10.00
Total: $614.10

i agree but his friends deceided on the case.

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January 26, 2013 9:32:27 PM

If the case is not really a big issue (I wouldn't make it for $500-$650), you could go with this.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3470 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($188.79 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI B75MA-E33 Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Pareema 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: HIS Radeon HD 7870 2GB Video Card ($199.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Gamma Classic (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($31.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Antec Basiq Plus 550W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB DVD/CD Writer ($22.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $648.71
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-26 18:31 EST-0500)
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a b K Overclocking
January 26, 2013 9:33:20 PM

i agree cball but hes really deceided on the case ;p
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a b K Overclocking
January 26, 2013 9:37:32 PM

AMD isn't the way to go for GW2. Settings would be a little lower, but gameplay was/is smoother with a stock i5+HD7770 than with a 3.8GHz Phenom II + HD7870.
Edit: ESPECIALLY since the friend doesn't want to OC.
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a b K Overclocking
January 26, 2013 9:39:55 PM

it simply isnt in the budget tho.

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January 26, 2013 9:40:08 PM

iceclock said:
i agree cball but hes really deceided on the case ;p


that's just $50 lost towards the GPU. :cry: 
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a c 112 K Overclocking
January 26, 2013 9:40:16 PM

I always have to seriously question why people use traditional mechanical harddrives on budget builds. I assume it because others dont know how much music and videoes etc. that a certain person has so they/we recommend them just as a precaution.

That being said, an SSD is probably the biggest and best upgrade that can be made to any modern computer. I got my intel 330 180gb for $89 on black friday, i actually got 2 of them to run in raid 0, but nicer newer 120gb ssd's can be found for $80 all day.

Boot loading time, program loading time, and game loading screen times are well worth the sacrifice of storage space for raw speed.



And sorry bro, you need to talk him out of that case, its just plain ugly and over priced.
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a b K Overclocking
January 26, 2013 9:40:33 PM

meh i guess, but my build with a 5850 overclocked to 5870 is good.

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January 26, 2013 9:46:41 PM

Thanks for the recommendations, everyone. I need to talk to him before I give him the final build
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a b K Overclocking
January 26, 2013 9:46:43 PM

Or he could also go for an AMD Phenom based build, which when overclocked will yield both better performance and better future proofing than a comparable Intel build.
It also allows for a more powerfull graphics card to be fit in the budget.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 975 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor ($82.18 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Best Buy)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-78LMT-S2P Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($49.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: PNY GeForce GTX 660 Ti 2GB Video Card ($229.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Rosewill Blackbone ATX Mid Tower Case ($31.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Antec Neo Eco 620W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($15.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $620.08
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-26 18:45 EST-0500)
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a b K Overclocking
January 26, 2013 9:47:29 PM

ok sounds good, thats nice except his friend wants the expensive case.

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a b K Overclocking
January 26, 2013 9:48:33 PM

The HD5850 is ok (although it uses a lot of power), but for $151 you can get a GTX650Ti, which is at least as strong, and ISN'T A DIAMOND. Diamond is one of the handful of vendors on my "Do Not Buy" list, in this case for multiple reasons, but including incompetence all around.
I'd rather have an i3 than a Phenom II for GW2, especially since this system won't be overclocked. CBall's build with an i3 instead of the i5 would allow enough money for the desired case.
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January 26, 2013 9:50:25 PM

No reason for 620w PSU for a build like that, you can get away with 450w easy, even if you wanted to OC the CPU or GPU a little.

Definitely go for 8GB, not that much more expensive than 4GB, and windows 7/8 make good use of extra memory (caching/superfetch) to make the system feel more responsive.
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a b K Overclocking
January 26, 2013 9:59:33 PM

no the point is the eco 620 is a great power supply and whynot get 620 for 30$, u cant get better for that price its a steal.

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/zLml
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/zLml/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/zLml/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i3-3220 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor ($121.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock H77M Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair XMS3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($37.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7850 2GB Video Card ($172.08 @ NCIX US)
Case: NZXT Phantom 410 (Gunmetal/Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Antec Neo Eco 620W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($15.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $582.99
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-26 18:59 EST-0500)

Base Total: $618.00
Mail-in Rebates: -$40.00
Shipping: $4.99
Total: $582.99

thats the bling right there.

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a b K Overclocking
January 26, 2013 10:06:54 PM

Kamen_BG said:
Or he could also go for an AMD Phenom based build, which when overclocked will yield both better performance and better future proofing than a comparable Intel build....

This has been hashed to death in the forums; it is essentially no longer true. Also, the OP's friend will not be overclocking, so AMD needs to be taken off the table.

iceclock said:
no the point is the eco 620 is a great power supply and whynot get 620 for 30$, u cant get better for that price its a steal.

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/zLml
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thats the bling right there.

Solid build; well suited to the intended purpose. Agreed on the PSU also.

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a b K Overclocking
January 26, 2013 10:12:32 PM

thanks :)  amd is good, but if hes not ocing i guess i3 does quite well in gaming.

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a b K Overclocking
January 26, 2013 11:51:38 PM

Hmm I would rather save some on the MB and grab a FX6300
The FX6300 does on average perform better than an i3

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($129.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-78LMT-USB3 Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($50.38 @ NCIX US)
Memory: Kingston Black 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($36.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7850 2GB Video Card ($172.08 @ NCIX US)
Case: NZXT Phantom 410 (Gunmetal/Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Antec Neo Eco 620W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($15.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $570.39
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-26 20:53 EST-0500)
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a b K Overclocking
January 26, 2013 11:52:55 PM

the amd build runs great imo.

but the intel one as well.

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a b K Overclocking
January 26, 2013 11:59:03 PM

id get a higher end board though
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a b K Overclocking
January 27, 2013 12:03:17 AM

Ask and you shall receive

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($129.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard: Asus M5A97 LE R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($79.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Kingston Black 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($36.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7850 2GB Video Card ($172.08 @ NCIX US)
Case: NZXT Phantom 410 (Gunmetal/Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Antec Neo Eco 620W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($15.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $599.99
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-26 21:02 EST-0500)
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a b K Overclocking
January 27, 2013 12:07:14 AM

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/zMEx
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/zMEx/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/zMEx/benchmarks/

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($129.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard: ASRock 970DE3/U3S3 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair XMS3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($37.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon HD 7850 2GB Video Card ($179.98 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Phantom 410 (Gunmetal/Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Antec Neo Eco 620W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($15.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $598.90
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-26 21:06 EST-0500)

Base Total: $627.71
Mail-in Rebates: -$30.00
Shipping: $4.99
Total: $602.70

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January 27, 2013 3:10:37 AM

iceclock said:
no the point is the eco 620 is a great power supply and whynot get 620 for 30$, u cant get better for that price its a steal.


I was referring more to the original posts PSU. Yes good deal on that one, but that is also assuming he gets it while it is on sale, and mails in the rebate. He may not be ordering right this minute.
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a b K Overclocking
January 27, 2013 3:11:42 AM

who knows. ;) 

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January 27, 2013 4:47:29 PM

Thanks, everyone. I talked it over with him and he decided to go with the Antec Illusion Case that Kamen_BG linked.
I'm going with stickmansam AMD build, but I really liked iceclock's Intel build, as well. My friend said he preferred AMD, which is why I will go with the AMD FX 6300 build. The only thing I made different was I swapped out the Kingston memory for iceclock's Corsair XMS3 memory. I have had good experiences with Corsair memory, so I'll go with that one.

Thanks so much everyone.
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January 27, 2013 4:47:46 PM

Best answer selected by Psywing.
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a b K Overclocking
January 27, 2013 4:56:26 PM

cheers psywing if u need more help dont hesitate to pm me.

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a b K Overclocking
January 27, 2013 11:10:44 PM

have fun building :D 
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