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Anonymous
August 27, 2005 6:54:20 PM
Anonymous
August 29, 2005 8:57:52 AM

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On Sat, 27 Aug 2005, at 14:54:20 [GMT GMT] (00:54:20 Sunday, 28 August 2005
where I live) "David H. Lipman" wrote:

> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyI...

What actually does it do, apart from allowing viewing of the RAW images?

Sorry for dumbo question?

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Anonymous
August 29, 2005 8:57:53 AM

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From: "John Phillips" <flatulantdingo@deadspam.com>

| On Sat, 27 Aug 2005, at 14:54:20 [GMT GMT] (00:54:20 Sunday, 28 August 2005
| where I live) "David H. Lipman" wrote:
|
>>
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyI...
|
| What actually does it do, apart from allowing viewing of the RAW images?
|
| Sorry for dumbo question?
|
| --
| When you're in love, you're at the mercy of a stranger.

No it is a fair and good question. One that I can't answer.

It is purely a FYI. I don't have it installed.

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Anonymous
August 29, 2005 8:57:53 AM

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On Mon, 29 Aug 2005 04:57:52 +1000, John
Phillips<flatulantdingo@deadspam.com> wrote:

>What actually does it do, apart from allowing viewing of the RAW images?
>
>Sorry for dumbo question?

Yes, it will display thumbnails just like Windows will do with other
image files right now, instead of just an icon and filename.
Anonymous
August 29, 2005 8:00:28 PM

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"McLeod" <cerveza@xplornet.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 29 Aug 2005 04:57:52 +1000, John
> Phillips<flatulantdingo@deadspam.com> wrote:
>
> >What actually does it do, apart from allowing viewing of the RAW images?
> >
> >Sorry for dumbo question?
>
> Yes, it will display thumbnails just like Windows will do with other
> image files right now, instead of just an icon and filename.

Whoopee ... and for that we need a 48 Megabyte download ? ? ? ? ?

And ... you need to install the complete (dot)Net package ? ? ? ? ?

What's wrong with IrfanView ... it seems to work quite well for viewing RAW
files (and all other image file types)? AND ... it's a lot smaller and
faster!

www.irfanview.com
Anonymous
August 29, 2005 8:00:29 PM

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RSD99 wrote:
> "McLeod" <cerveza@xplornet.com> wrote in message
> news:cb94h1dh8ss31dl4aft17m3dv4fppcts3p@4ax.com...
>
>>On Mon, 29 Aug 2005 04:57:52 +1000, John
>>Phillips<flatulantdingo@deadspam.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>What actually does it do, apart from allowing viewing of the RAW images?
>>>
>>>Sorry for dumbo question?
>>
>>Yes, it will display thumbnails just like Windows will do with other
>>image files right now, instead of just an icon and filename.
>
>
> Whoopee ... and for that we need a 48 Megabyte download ? ? ? ? ?
>
> And ... you need to install the complete (dot)Net package ? ? ? ? ?
>
> What's wrong with IrfanView ... it seems to work quite well for viewing RAW
> files (and all other image file types)? AND ... it's a lot smaller and
> faster!
>
> www.irfanview.com


It's 6MB, unless you download the full version with .NET and I suspect
you already have .NET runtime module in your system. It's a handy viewer
that is intergrated to the file explorer. Why not get it if your pc is
not too antiqued.
Anonymous
August 30, 2005 11:21:43 AM

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"RSD99" <rsdwla.NOSPAM@gte.net> wrote in message
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> Whoopee ... and for that we need a 48 Megabyte download ? ? ? ? ?
>
> And ... you need to install the complete (dot)Net package ? ? ? ? ?
>
> What's wrong with IrfanView ... it seems to work quite well for viewing
> RAW
> files (and all other image file types)? AND ... it's a lot smaller and
> faster!
>
> www.irfanview.com

Anyone who takes 6+ MB pictures and whines about a 48MB download clearly
is grinding their axe.

Dave
Anonymous
August 30, 2005 4:54:54 PM

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In alt.photography John Phillips <flatulantdingo@deadspam.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 27 Aug 2005, at 14:54:20 [GMT GMT] (00:54:20 Sunday, 28 August 2005
> where I live) "David H. Lipman" wrote:
>
>> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyI...
>
> What actually does it do, apart from allowing viewing of the RAW images?
>
> Sorry for dumbo question?
>

It is useful for previewing direction within Explorer. It also works
nice as a default viewer as it is pretty fast.

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August 30, 2005 4:56:46 PM

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In alt.photography David Geesaman <dgeesamannospam@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Anyone who takes 6+ MB pictures and whines about a 48MB download clearly
> is grinding their axe.
>

6+ MB pictures move fast over USB. 48MB downloads require broadband ...
or lots of patience.

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August 30, 2005 6:31:48 PM

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"Thomas T. Veldhouse" <veldy71@yahoo.com> wrote in
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> In alt.photography John Phillips <flatulantdingo@deadspam.com>
> wrote:
>> On Sat, 27 Aug 2005, at 14:54:20 [GMT GMT] (00:54:20 Sunday, 28
>> August 2005 where I live) "David H. Lipman" wrote:
>>
>>> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyI...
>>> -b10d-4ce4-a141-5866fd4a3286&DisplayLang=en
>>
>> What actually does it do, apart from allowing viewing of the RAW
>> images?
>>
>> Sorry for dumbo question?
>>
>
> It is useful for previewing direction within Explorer. It also
> works nice as a default viewer as it is pretty fast.
>

Doesn't work for my Pentax *istDS RAWs

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Anonymous
August 30, 2005 6:34:05 PM

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From: "Kerry" <tera**pico@telus.net>


| Doesn't work for my Pentax *istDS RAWs
|
| --
| Kerry in Langley

Interesting. However, the MS web site does specifically state Canon and Nikon.

"After installing the Microsoft RAW Image Thumbnailer and Viewer Powertoy for Windows XP you
will be able to view, organize, and print photos captured in RAW image formats from
supported Canon and Nikon digital cameras"

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Anonymous
August 30, 2005 7:47:59 PM

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In alt.photography Kerry <tera**pico@telus.net> wrote:
>
> Doesn't work for my Pentax *istDS RAWs
>

Email Microsoft. Perhaps it is a licensing issue? Anyway, it does
support at least Cannon and Nikon formats [as I have tried both].

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Anonymous
August 31, 2005 7:35:27 AM

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The "Quick Description" states, "photos captured in RAW image formats from
supported Canon and Nikon digital cameras." The white paper lists the
individual models and says it may support RAW formats from other
manufactures but Microsoft hasn't tested them.



Perhaps someday all the manufactures will get together and establish a
universal standard for RAW.

"Thomas T. Veldhouse" <veldy71@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> In alt.photography Kerry <tera**pico@telus.net> wrote:
>>
>> Doesn't work for my Pentax *istDS RAWs
>>
>
> Email Microsoft. Perhaps it is a licensing issue? Anyway, it does
> support at least Cannon and Nikon formats [as I have tried both].
>
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>
Anonymous
August 31, 2005 12:43:38 PM

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STEPHEN LANTZ wrote:
[snip]
> Perhaps someday all the manufactures will get together and establish a
> universal standard for RAW.
[snip]

Don't expect all the manufacturers to get together to define one. Two
of them (Leica and Hasselblad-Imacon) already support DNG, and probably
wouldn't see the need to define another format. And I doubt whether the
rest of the manufacturers will be able to jointly define one, because
they would probably see too much risk in giving away their secrets
during the definition process.

I think our best hope is for the manufacturers to use one that they
don't have to jointly define themselves. Canon and Nikon will probably
be the last to do so, in that order.

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Anonymous
August 31, 2005 12:50:14 PM

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Kerry wrote:
> "Thomas T. Veldhouse" <veldy71@yahoo.com> wrote in
> news:4314571e$0$8035$8046368a@newsreader.iphouse.net:
[snip]
> > It is useful for previewing direction within Explorer. It also
> > works nice as a default viewer as it is pretty fast.
>
> Doesn't work for my Pentax *istDS RAWs

Microsoft announced that with Longhorn / Vista they would have a more
comprehensive capability, in which the various camera makers could
supply codecs to support their formats. And Adobe will provide one for
DNG, of course.

What we see at the moment is a stop-gap until then. Microsoft were
probably a bit concerned about Preview in Tiger, which I believe
already supports more than just Nikon and Canon.

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Anonymous
August 31, 2005 4:14:10 PM

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Barry Pearson wrote:
> Kerry wrote:
>
>>"Thomas T. Veldhouse" <veldy71@yahoo.com> wrote in
>>news:4314571e$0$8035$8046368a@newsreader.iphouse.net:
>
> [snip]
>
>>>It is useful for previewing direction within Explorer. It also
>>>works nice as a default viewer as it is pretty fast.
>>
>>Doesn't work for my Pentax *istDS RAWs
>
>
> Microsoft announced that with Longhorn / Vista they would have a more
> comprehensive capability, in which the various camera makers could
> supply codecs to support their formats. And Adobe will provide one for
> DNG, of course.
>
> What we see at the moment is a stop-gap until then. Microsoft were
> probably a bit concerned about Preview in Tiger, which I believe
> already supports more than just Nikon and Canon.
>
> --
> Barry Pearson
> http://www.barry.pearson.name/photography/
> http://www.birdsandanimals.info/
>


You mean Tiger as in OSX? No, it doesn't have preview in file manager as
in WinXP. There are RAW supports in the OS but it's mainly used by
iPhoto. The Microsoft RAW preview which is hooked to the file explorer
is very handy if you need to move/organize the files/photos from one
folder to another without using a third party viewer.
!