Building computer, no screen when graphicscard is in.
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beaterz
December 12, 2012 6:51:50 PM
Hi everybody,
I resently started building a computer and after putting it all togheter we had no sceen input when starting the computer.. after a complete disassably i found out that the problems lies with the graphics card.
This is what i have tryed so far:
when everything is put togheter without the graphics card in it and the vga connected to the onboard graphicscard it runs fine, when i only put the graphics card in but dont connect it to anything and keeping the vga on the onboard it doesnt run anymore, when connecting the graphics card fully and keeping the vga on the onboard it doenst run and when connecting the graphics card fully and connecting it to the graphics card it doenst run. as you can see i tryed most possiblitys.
I might need to add that the graphics card fan does work even though i dont have screen input.
this is the graphics card i am using: http://afuture.nl/productview.php?productID=612092
this is the motherboard i am using: afuture.nl/productview.php?productID=356687
any help is appriciated.
I resently started building a computer and after putting it all togheter we had no sceen input when starting the computer.. after a complete disassably i found out that the problems lies with the graphics card.
This is what i have tryed so far:
when everything is put togheter without the graphics card in it and the vga connected to the onboard graphicscard it runs fine, when i only put the graphics card in but dont connect it to anything and keeping the vga on the onboard it doesnt run anymore, when connecting the graphics card fully and keeping the vga on the onboard it doenst run and when connecting the graphics card fully and connecting it to the graphics card it doenst run. as you can see i tryed most possiblitys.
I might need to add that the graphics card fan does work even though i dont have screen input.
this is the graphics card i am using: http://afuture.nl/productview.php?productID=612092
this is the motherboard i am using: afuture.nl/productview.php?productID=356687
any help is appriciated.
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beaterz
December 12, 2012 7:10:35 PM
whitty1001
December 12, 2012 7:26:38 PM
beaterz
December 12, 2012 7:29:10 PM
Well the reason why I asked whether or not the video setting was set to onboard is because it will prevent you from using your PCI-E card. So when you check if its set to onboard change it to PCI-E in the event it still doesn't work turn your computer off. Reset the BIOS and go from there. So don't worry you will have a option if you don't have your display working when you change to PCI-E.
Like Chug said it can be a slot thing however I highly doubt it given what you are describing.
Like Chug said it can be a slot thing however I highly doubt it given what you are describing.
whitty1001
December 12, 2012 7:43:14 PM
beaterz
December 12, 2012 7:46:24 PM
its no slot problem, and ofcourse i can reset bios! forgot about that
thank you, still i find it strange that when i just put the graphics card in and still use the onboard the computer doenst boot (or i atleast dont have screen input, it might boot idk) you would say it would just boot and use the onboard because the graphiccard isnt connected by the vga and has no power supplie :S still im going to try that bios solution. hope it works.
thank you, still i find it strange that when i just put the graphics card in and still use the onboard the computer doenst boot (or i atleast dont have screen input, it might boot idk) you would say it would just boot and use the onboard because the graphiccard isnt connected by the vga and has no power supplie :S still im going to try that bios solution. hope it works.
whitty1001
December 12, 2012 7:50:17 PM
beaterz
December 23, 2012 9:17:52 AM
I haven't had time to continue on the computer untill today.
I went into the bios using the onboard card to check if it was set to onboard.
in the bios i went to: advanced/north bridge configuration and there i found the option: primairy graphics adapter and it was set to: PCI express.
I can change it to: PCI or onboard.
but i guess this settings are oke right?
so why insn't the graphics card working, i already found it strange that the computer doenst boot when i put the graphicscard in but still boot by using the onboard vga.. im pretty sure the graphics card isn't damaged in any way so what should i do?
please help
I went into the bios using the onboard card to check if it was set to onboard.
in the bios i went to: advanced/north bridge configuration and there i found the option: primairy graphics adapter and it was set to: PCI express.
I can change it to: PCI or onboard.
but i guess this settings are oke right?
so why insn't the graphics card working, i already found it strange that the computer doenst boot when i put the graphicscard in but still boot by using the onboard vga.. im pretty sure the graphics card isn't damaged in any way so what should i do?
please help
beaterz
December 23, 2012 9:40:54 AM
beaterz
December 23, 2012 9:43:54 AM
untill a better solution is given i will put bios on using the onboard vga so i can boot with the graphicscard in, then i will install windows 7 and install the driver of the graphicscard with the cd that came with it. then ill put the bios on pci-e and cross my fingers that it will boot with the graphicscard. and then i can install the latest driver from the internet but that is a care for later, im getting kind of scared. if the graphics card is dead im in big trouble, im building this computer for my brother so he paid for all the components, if it doesnt work i cant pay for a new card
beaterz
December 23, 2012 9:54:44 AM
beaterz
December 23, 2012 10:02:13 AM
The minimum system requirement is 500 watts. Although it will more then likely not use all 500 watts its good to get a little higher then what the vendor suggests a 550 watt psu would do you just fine or even a 650 watt its up to you.
this one is good
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
this one is good
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
this one to
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
this one is good
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
this one is good
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
this one to
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
beaterz
December 23, 2012 10:20:19 AM
beterz intel the os is installed and you see if your mb has all of the bios updates installed. most times the onboard gpu is going to be the main video till you install windows and tell windows to use the gpu as the main video and plug your video cable into the gpu. some mb and some bios will have the onboard video be the main boot video till it switched over into windows. on power up those mb you end up with a blank screen for a min or two till windows loads.
beaterz
December 23, 2012 10:32:10 AM
Yes, it matters a lot. Read this article if you're not convinced.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/low-cost-psu-pc-pow...
Though I'd not rush and buy it before you are sure. I'd still like that picture.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/low-cost-psu-pc-pow...
Though I'd not rush and buy it before you are sure. I'd still like that picture.
beaterz
December 23, 2012 10:52:13 AM
beaterz
December 23, 2012 10:52:52 AM
beaterz
December 23, 2012 11:08:23 AM
I live in the netherlands, so newegg.com is a no go for me, could you maybe find a good power supply on this site? http://afuture.nl/productlist.php?categoryID=808 its in dutch but i think you guys can manage
i am looking for one that is as cheap as possible, thank you for all your help so far.
i am looking for one that is as cheap as possible, thank you for all your help so far.
Could you upload it to www.imageshack.us and select "Do not resize" option?
beaterz
December 23, 2012 11:44:05 AM
They are not good at all.
These two are decent:
http://afuture.nl/productview.php?productID=250467
http://afuture.nl/productview.php?productID=217257
By the way, are both power cables coming directly from the power supply unit? If so, could you take a photo of the power supply label and post it here?
These two are decent:
http://afuture.nl/productview.php?productID=250467
http://afuture.nl/productview.php?productID=217257
By the way, are both power cables coming directly from the power supply unit? If so, could you take a photo of the power supply label and post it here?
beaterz
December 23, 2012 12:03:39 PM
Thing is, there are no laws that regulate labels for the power supply units. Because of that, many manufacturers tend to overrate and overprice their units: it isn't uncommon for a 700 watt unit to die at mere 300 watt load.
However, there is a way to know whether the power supply is good. 80 PLUS standard certification exists to rate the efficiency of the power supply units. They test the power supply units at 100% of their rated power - that means if the power supply unit cannot output its rated wattage - it fails the test. So the units that pass that certification will for sure provide their rated power.
Furthermore, brands like Antec, Corsair, Seasonic, XFX have earned years of trust from customers - their power supply units tend to be top notch.
However, there is a way to know whether the power supply is good. 80 PLUS standard certification exists to rate the efficiency of the power supply units. They test the power supply units at 100% of their rated power - that means if the power supply unit cannot output its rated wattage - it fails the test. So the units that pass that certification will for sure provide their rated power.
Furthermore, brands like Antec, Corsair, Seasonic, XFX have earned years of trust from customers - their power supply units tend to be top notch.
beaterz
December 23, 2012 3:32:59 PM
i got a new powersupply
a 700w however, the graphics card still doenst work.... if i put the bios to onboard pci it works fine, i starts up and i installed windows, but as soon as i try to connect to the pci-e and set the bios to pci-e i get no screen, i hear the computer booting so the computer launches, however no screen..... what can this be? the graphics card doesnt seem damgaged and the fan works so there must (that means i hope) an other explanation :S im now going to install the drivers while on onboard.
a 700w however, the graphics card still doenst work.... if i put the bios to onboard pci it works fine, i starts up and i installed windows, but as soon as i try to connect to the pci-e and set the bios to pci-e i get no screen, i hear the computer booting so the computer launches, however no screen..... what can this be? the graphics card doesnt seem damgaged and the fan works so there must (that means i hope) an other explanation :S im now going to install the drivers while on onboard. Sunius said:
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Stop recommending purchases until we know what's at fault.
wasn't my intent was just feeling based on the psu he listed that his wattage probably wasn't outputting the advertised amount. So thought maybe that could be it. I didn't expect him to rush out and buy a psu. He said he purchased a 700w but what 700w oye.
Also its a decent question can you get to the bios with the card.
beaterz
December 26, 2012 12:50:29 PM
bigshootr8 said:
wasn't my intent was just feeling based on the psu he listed that his wattage probably wasn't outputting the advertised amount. So thought maybe that could be it. I didn't expect him to rush out and buy a psu. He said he purchased a 700w but what 700w oye. Also its a decent question can you get to the bios with the card.
first of all I want to make clear I appreciate every comment posted here to help me
well yea, I bought a 700w power supply at allvision (a computer store where I bought a lot of my computer stuff through the years and I have always been pleased with the quality they sell me) the brand is Huntkey and i got a 2 year warranty with it so thats all good
but still no screen... and no i cant get to bios screen with the graphics card. i cant see anything with it.
ill sum it up all.
- i hear the computer booting, screen stays black when i have the vga connected to the pci-e
- screen stays black when i connect the vga to onboard when the graphics card is in (its because the computer sees the the card so trys to boot on it)
- i have screen when i pull the card out and connect the vga to the onboard so i installed winows and drivers on it like that (well, i put the bios to onboard and put the graphics card in so it boots on onboard)
i checked:
- vga cable (onboard works so vga is fine)
- pci-e slot of motherboard with an other graphicscard and this works
- bios settings (when on pci-e, no screen with the card, but an other card works fine.)
im going to check the card itself in an other computer tomorrow, didnt have time for it untill now.
any more help is welcome but im afraid the card is dead :S and that while its newly bought..
i hope afuture.nl gives warranty so i get an other one.
beaterz
December 31, 2012 2:14:26 PM
I put the card in my old acer aspire, but because its an old computer it didnt have enough power supplie, so i only connected 1 pci1 power cable and started it, just to check and i got a white message in my screen saying: please connect all pce1 power cables and reboot. this was screen!
so i went back to the computer i am building with the card and put it in and only connected 1 power cable, no message! so there must be something off with my new build :S but what? It isnt the motherboard because i tryed other graphics cards in the pci-e slot and that worked. it isnt the the graphics card because the message saying: "please connect all pci1 cables" came on the screen so that is output. so what can it be?
so i went back to the computer i am building with the card and put it in and only connected 1 power cable, no message! so there must be something off with my new build :S but what? It isnt the motherboard because i tryed other graphics cards in the pci-e slot and that worked. it isnt the the graphics card because the message saying: "please connect all pci1 cables" came on the screen so that is output. so what can it be?
beaterz you did not check your mb bios rev or update it. if you look at your mb and pull down download and bios there a few updates that fix gpu issuse. the newest bios is version 1.6 if your mb is under that download the 1.6 bios file. unzip the rom file and put it on a usb stick. then go into the bios under advance setting...bios update and run the bios update.
beaterz
January 9, 2013 5:02:26 PM
smorizio said:
beaterz you did not check your mb bios rev or update it. if you look at your mb and pull down download and bios there a few updates that fix gpu issuse. the newest bios is version 1.6 if your mb is under that download the 1.6 bios file. unzip the rom file and put it on a usb stick. then go into the bios under advance setting...bios update and run the bios update.wow this gives me hope! thank you for this one, this might actually be it, ill try it tommorow and post the results.
jorikw
March 29, 2013 12:41:42 PM
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