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January 28, 2013 2:03:36 AM

Hello,
I plan to buy parts for a budget gaming PC in 1-2 months and i want to spend around 600USD.


On pcpartpicker i made 2 builds that are somewhat in my price range:

Build 1 - $658.90
Build 2 - $561.70

I want to use the PC for School, Internet/multimedia, and games: Source games, BF3, Minecraft, Planetside 2, Skyrim, Borderlands 2, and titles to to come out in the future as well. id like to play on whichever settings that get me playable frame rates of around 40fps average. i'd like to be able to play on 1080p but 720p is fine as long as its not on all low. i already own a copy of win7 Home Premium 64-bit (do i need professional or ultimate?). Also i'm not a "fanboy" and i do not prefer any brand but i instead prefer products that have a better price/performance ratio. i dont plan to overclock unless its necessary(probably gonna OC GPU tho). i think i might go crossfire or sli in the future which is why i tried to select ATX boards that support them both. my monitor is 1080p and has refresh rate of 60 hz.

P.S.: Are sites like Superbiiz, Compuvest, OutletPC, Mwave, and eCost reputable. i only have experience from "mainstream" sites like Newegg and NCIX.

i apologize for mistakes in this, i accidentally hit backspace when i wasnt in the text box

Thanks for your feedback. :) 

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January 28, 2013 2:06:47 AM

build #1 hands down

i fix a bit on mobo + cpu. no need to put z77 on non-OC rig

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3470 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($149.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard: ASRock H77M Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair XMS3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($37.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon HD 7850 2GB Video Card ($179.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Antec Neo Eco 620W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($15.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $573.90
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-27 23:06 EST-0500)
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January 28, 2013 2:13:47 AM

AMD Radeon said:
build #1 hands down

i fix a bit on mobo + cpu. no need to put z77 on non-OC rig

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3470 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($149.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard: ASRock H77M Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair XMS3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($37.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon HD 7850 2GB Video Card ($179.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Antec Neo Eco 620W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($15.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $573.90
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-27 23:06 EST-0500)

that looks nice but why does that list say that its 570 but when i clicked on the link it said 612USD. also does that motherboard support XFire or sli?
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January 28, 2013 2:15:45 AM

oh when you click it, it displays CPU price from newegg. in the list above, it is from microcenter (intel cpu is a lot cheaper in this store)

it does support dual card :)  but there is a mobo better for dual card, i will fix it
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January 28, 2013 2:18:42 AM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3470 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($188.79 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock H77M Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair XMS3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($37.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon HD 7850 2GB Video Card ($179.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Antec Neo Eco 620W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($15.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $612.70
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-27 23:19 EST-0500)

support crossfire, no SLI :) 
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January 28, 2013 2:21:00 AM

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/A1bb
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/A1bb/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/A1bb/benchmarks/

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($124.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Best Buy)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-DS3 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($81.88 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair XMS3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($37.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon HD 7850 2GB Video Card ($179.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Antec Neo Eco 620W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $614.79
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-27 23:20 EST-0500)

Base Total: $649.80
Mail-in Rebates: -$40.00
Shipping: $4.99
Total: $614.79

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January 28, 2013 1:05:15 PM

iceclock said:
PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/A1bb
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/A1bb/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/A1bb/benchmarks/

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($124.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Best Buy)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-DS3 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($81.88 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair XMS3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($37.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon HD 7850 2GB Video Card ($179.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Antec Neo Eco 620W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $614.79
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-27 23:20 EST-0500)
Base Total: $649.80
Mail-in Rebates: -$40.00
Shipping: $4.99
Total: $614.79

pretty nice price but i have a few concerns. ive read that the FX-6300 is really only 3 cores with 6 threads. the phenom II x4's are 4 real cores. is there a real performance difference between the two, and do i need a aftermarket cooler? also the motherboard is USB 3.0 but the case is USB 2.0, should i just stay with the 200r? otherwise everythings good, gpu looks cool, the PSU is black and has over 500w which should allow crossfire, etc.
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January 28, 2013 3:37:15 PM

no, its 6cores.

the 6300 is a good bit faster than the phenom 2s.

i got u an aftermarket cooler for overclocking.

200r works fine.

yes thats right.

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January 28, 2013 3:45:20 PM

^ if you learn about fx cores, you will realize that he is actually right about 3 cores, at least close enough
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January 28, 2013 4:27:01 PM

FX-6300 is 6 integer cores/3 modules (with some shared resources, less than Bulldozer). 3 FPUs. The important point is that it is faster than a Phenom II x4 in both highly threaded loads and less threaded loads (where as bulldozer was really only faster in highly threaded loads). You want the aftermarket cooler - the real value in FX processors is that they are all multiplier unlocked and performance scales well with clock rate. At stock the i5 is almost certainly a better choice (similar or better performance, less power usage).
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January 28, 2013 5:08:13 PM

jacobsta811 said:
FX-6300 is 6 integer cores/3 modules (with some shared resources, less than Bulldozer). 3 FPUs. The important point is that it is faster than a Phenom II x4 in both highly threaded loads and less threaded loads (where as bulldozer was really only faster in highly threaded loads). You want the aftermarket cooler - the real value in FX processors is that they are all multiplier unlocked and performance scales well with clock rate. At stock the i5 is almost certainly a better choice (similar or better performance, less power usage).

so is the FX-6300 a better choice than a Phenom II x4 965 BE? or do i need a more expensive i5 ._.
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January 28, 2013 5:47:19 PM

jacobsta811 said:
FX-6300 is 6 integer cores/3 modules (with some shared resources, less than Bulldozer). 3 FPUs. The important point is that it is faster than a Phenom II x4 in both highly threaded loads and less threaded loads (where as bulldozer was really only faster in highly threaded loads). You want the aftermarket cooler - the real value in FX processors is that they are all multiplier unlocked and performance scales well with clock rate. At stock the i5 is almost certainly a better choice (similar or better performance, less power usage).

couldnt agree more [:russk1]
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January 28, 2013 6:39:11 PM

AMD Radeon said:
couldnt agree more [:russk1]

is getting the intel worth the price?
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January 28, 2013 7:07:58 PM

Sarutobi0997 said:
is getting the intel worth the price?

i hate to say this, but i cant deny that the answer is YES
atm, the only reason to get AMD CPU is :
- fanboy
- need 8 core of awesomeness (3850)
- doesnt care about power (any amd cpu)
- doesnt want dedicated video card (get AMD APU instead)

it is really personal thought, doesnt represent any other opinion
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January 28, 2013 8:01:31 PM

If you are willing to overclock, and you don't care about how much power costs, you should either get an FX-6300 or jump all the way to an i5-3570k + z77 board (the best value overall, at any budget). If you aren't going to overclock, the cheaper i5s are better than the FX-6300. For most games your graphics card matters more than your processor - while the FX-6300 and i5's are both much better than a Phenom II x4 or an i3-3220, either of those are enough so that your graphics card is the biggest bottleneck.
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January 28, 2013 8:29:59 PM

jacobsta811 said:
If you are willing to overclock, and you don't care about how much power costs, you should either get an FX-6300 or jump all the way to an i5-3570k + z77 board (the best value overall, at any budget). If you aren't going to overclock, the cheaper i5s are better than the FX-6300. For most games your graphics card matters more than your processor - while the FX-6300 and i5's are both much better than a Phenom II x4 or an i3-3220, either of those are enough so that your graphics card is the biggest bottleneck.

can a i3 handle the games i listed, its only a dual core (HT is stupid). intead of an i3 i feel i should get the Pentium g2120 since only difference is HT.
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January 28, 2013 9:04:32 PM

yes well im not really educated on the new plateform or the old one, i assumed the new one was a real 6core.

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January 28, 2013 10:55:33 PM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Pentium G2120 3.1GHz Dual-Core Processor ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: MSI Z77A-G45 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair XMS3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($37.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon HD 7850 2GB Video Card ($179.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Antec Neo Eco 620W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($15.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $553.89
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-28 19:52 EST-0500)

i think this is good and the motherboard can allow me to upgrade to anything in the future
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January 28, 2013 10:57:08 PM

not bad, except id get the newer i3 dualcore.

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/AaSy
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/AaSy/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/AaSy/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i3-3220 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor ($121.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI Z77A-G45 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair XMS3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($37.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon HD 7850 2GB Video Card ($179.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Antec Neo Eco 620W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($15.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $585.89
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-28 19:56 EST-0500)

Base Total: $615.91
Mail-in Rebates: -$40.00
Shipping: $9.98
Total: $585.89

no point in getting a slower dualcore. for a few bucks less.

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January 28, 2013 10:57:30 PM

also ur full price is 590. so for 25$ u get a better processor :) 

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January 28, 2013 10:58:36 PM

iceclock said:
also ur full price is 590. so for 25$ u get a better processor :) 

what processor would that be?
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January 28, 2013 11:02:39 PM

Intel Core i3-3220 3.3GHz

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January 28, 2013 11:04:49 PM

iceclock said:
Intel Core i3-3220 3.3GHz

is there any difference between g2120 and i3 3220 other than hyper threading, widi, ssd caching and 200mhz clock?
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January 28, 2013 11:07:21 PM

yes performance.

newer architecture, im just saying why get something that heats more, and uses more energy than something newer, that uses less energy, heats less and performs a bit better for hardly 25$ more.

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January 28, 2013 11:32:30 PM

iceclock said:
yes performance.

newer architecture, im just saying why get something that heats more, and uses more energy than something newer, that uses less energy, heats less and performs a bit better for hardly 25$ more.

pentium g2120 is also ivy bridge and only uses 10w more and on futuremark it has a score of 3910 and i3 has score of 4130. im just saying that i3's main advantage is just HT but im also saying that im not planning on remaining with the pentium and i plan on upgrading to an i5 down the line :L
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January 28, 2013 11:36:13 PM

well its up to u, ur call just think its a better deal.

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January 28, 2013 11:54:19 PM

iceclock said:
well its up to u, ur call just think its a better deal.

ok.
i have a question that i didnt realize until now. the pentium only supports pcie 2.0 and my mobo only has 1 pcie 2.0 ports and the rest are 3.0. if i put the gpu in a pcie 3.0 port and the pentium is installed, will the gpu not work or will it act like a 2.0 port (gpu supports 3.0 and is backwards compatible).
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January 29, 2013 12:03:56 AM

Sarutobi0997 said:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Pentium G2120 3.1GHz Dual-Core Processor ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: MSI Z77A-G45 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair XMS3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($37.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon HD 7850 2GB Video Card ($179.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Antec Neo Eco 620W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($15.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $553.89
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-28 19:52 EST-0500)

i think this is good and the motherboard can allow me to upgrade to anything in the future


Get the i5 now, there's no more cpus coming for the lga 1155, instead of spending twice on a cpu, get the i5 now, upgrade the card later.
Some changes: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/AbEF

Yes, it's more expensive, but with the i5 and all other stuff, the rebates also might payoff.
Amd radeon suggestion, is in my opinion a good one.
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January 29, 2013 12:11:26 AM

djangoringo said:
Get the i5 now, there's no more cpus coming for the lga 1155, instead of spending twice on a cpu, get the i5 now, upgrade the card later.
Some changes: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/AbEF

Yes, it's more expensive, but with the i5 and all other stuff, the rebates also might payoff.
Amd radeon suggestion, is in my opinion a good one.

well even if lga 1155 ends, i dont have to immediately buy intels new socket; ppl use lga 1136 and get the i7 920 to day because since its "old" but still powerful it would normally be cheaper. id like my motherboard to last at least 2 years and with the z77 chipset i can get any cpu i want and overclock it and everything later on
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January 29, 2013 12:16:31 AM

It's your choice, the i5-3470 is as good as the i5-3570k at stock, with the i5 now, you don't need to upgrade the cpu, it's a quad core, more "future proof", the h77 motherboard is fine, it will last.
With the money you'll spend again in the cpu, you'll have it for a new card, there's the newer generations cards from both sides coming this year, and that will be perfectly compatible with your system, also the i5 has support for pcie 3.0
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January 29, 2013 12:22:28 AM

Whether the i3 has "real" cores or hyperthreading, the net result is quite a bit faster than a g860 or pentium 2120. I'd say the i3-3220 is about the minimum I would consider "future proof" - where your processor isn't going to choke you in new games with better threading. Your PCI slots can fall back to PCI-E 2.0, there won't be an issue there- you have to be in crossfire or SLI configs before you need the speed of PCI-E 3.0, and even then only because the motherboards & CPU limit you to 4 or 8 lanes on the second or third slot.
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January 29, 2013 12:34:29 AM

jacobsta811 said:
Whether the i3 has "real" cores or hyperthreading, the net result is quite a bit faster than a g860 or pentium 2120. I'd say the i3-3220 is about the minimum I would consider "future proof" - where your processor isn't going to choke you in new games with better threading. Your PCI slots can fall back to PCI-E 2.0, there won't be an issue there- you have to be in crossfire or SLI configs before you need the speed of PCI-E 3.0, and even then only because the motherboards & CPU limit you to 4 or 8 lanes on the second or third slot.

Thats a good argument. and also assuming i get the pentium, im just curious if it wont matter what gen pci port i put it in; it will just perfrom as a pci 2.0?
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January 29, 2013 12:37:53 AM

djangoringo said:
It's your choice, the i5-3470 is as good as the i5-3570k at stock, with the i5 now, you don't need to upgrade the cpu, it's a quad core, more "future proof", the h77 motherboard is fine, it will last.
With the money you'll spend again in the cpu, you'll have it for a new card, there's the newer generations cards from both sides coming this year, and that will be perfectly compatible with your system, also the i5 has support for pcie 3.0

im not disagreeing that the i5 is a better choice. if could id get a i7 3770k and a GTX 680, but those cost what they do ._.
if i put in the i5 3470, its not terribly expensive but i guess it all matters in the end but yea i would prefer and i5 over Pentium. the price of perfection is high. and 3570 performs at same speed as 3570k not 3470.
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January 29, 2013 1:06:36 AM

i think the i3 is a better processor overall than the pentium and hyperthreading can come in handy when multitasking.

;) 

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January 30, 2013 9:32:28 PM

Best answer selected by Sarutobi0997.
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