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January 29, 2013 1:19:43 AM

Trying to get some thoughts on this bundle I found on tiger direct. I'm considering purchasing it. Thanks.

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

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January 29, 2013 1:27:55 AM

if this is for gaming the don't get it if you want to run on ultra (or have a really good GPU) as the CPU is not a srong one
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January 29, 2013 1:29:51 AM

whats ur budget, and are u building a full pc or just upgrading?


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January 29, 2013 1:30:40 AM

Ultra is a bad name for PSU's, there is no hard drive.

8120 is not that great for gaming.

RAM, motherboard and case seem decent.

You can do better for the money.

What are you planning to use the computer for?

Do you have an OS and HD? If not what's your budget for the overall rig?
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January 29, 2013 1:32:59 AM

Just upgrading. Trying to stay under $500.
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January 29, 2013 1:34:38 AM

what parts do u currently own?

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January 29, 2013 1:35:37 AM

Z1NONLY said:
Ultra is a bad name for PSU's, there is no hard drive.

8120 is not that great for gaming.

RAM, motherboard and case seem decent.

You can do better for the money.

What are you planning to use the computer for?

Do you have an OS and HD? If not what's your budget for the overall rig?


I plan on playing games such as Civ 5 and the new simcity when it comes out. No first person shooters or anything like that. I have an OS and was considering pulling my HD out of my old desktop. It's a 500GB HD.
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January 29, 2013 1:36:26 AM

I agree you can do better with the money. For example this would be a better use of your money given the amount spent on that bundle.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3470 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($149.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard: ASRock H77 Pro4-M Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($51.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: XFX 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($74.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $436.94
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-28 22:36 EST-0500)
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January 29, 2013 1:44:21 AM

bigshootr8 said:
I agree you can do better with the money. For example this would be a better use of your money given the amount spent on that bundle.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3470 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($149.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard: ASRock H77 Pro4-M Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($51.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: XFX 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($74.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $436.94
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-28 22:36 EST-0500)


I already have a DVD burner. What Video card would you recommend for around $80 or so? Or would it be better to save my money and get a better one down the road?
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January 29, 2013 1:50:30 AM

I would say it would be wiser to get one down the road. You won't get a good value at the 80 dollar mark things at the 100 dollar mark are a little different. A good value to start would be a 650TI. There is one on sale for 109 with newegg however its just a 1 gigabyte model. If you were going more towards 2 gigabytes you should look at the 7850, GTX660's which are near the 200 dollar mark.
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January 29, 2013 1:54:27 AM

whats ur total budget dude?

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January 29, 2013 1:58:03 AM

He said he is trying to stay under 500
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January 29, 2013 2:07:28 AM

hmm.

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Adkr
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Adkr/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Adkr/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-3470 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($149.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard: ASRock H77M Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair XMS3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($37.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI Radeon HD 6770 1GB Video Card ($86.97 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master Elite 370 ATX Mid Tower Case ($36.39 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Antec Neo Eco 620W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS72 DVD/CD Writer ($22.75 @ Amazon)
Total: $434.07
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-28 23:06 EST-0500)

seems about right.

Base Total: $480.09
Mail-in Rebates: -$20.00
Shipping: $12.97
Total: $473.06

i needed my barnicle glasses to read oh my :p 

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January 29, 2013 2:11:31 AM

bigshootr8 said:
I would say it would be wiser to get one down the road. You won't get a good value at the 80 dollar mark things at the 100 dollar mark are a little different. A good value to start would be a 650TI. There is one on sale for 109 with newegg however its just a 1 gigabyte model. If you were going more towards 2 gigabytes you should look at the 7850, GTX660's which are near the 200 dollar mark.


Or he could go with something like this and have a whole system right now:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i3-3220 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor ($121.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Asus P8B75-M/CSM Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($78.24 @ Amazon)
Memory: Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($38.50 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: HIS Radeon HD 7850 1GB Video Card ($169.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Antec 450W ATX12V Power Supply ($30.95 @ NCIX US)
Total: $489.64
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-28 23:08 EST-0500)

(I'm assuming that he already has an optical drive and an OS.)

bigshootr8's build will be much much stronger if and when the OP saves enough money to buy a good graphics card. If the OP thinks he can save up that money quickly and/or he doesn't mind waiting, then that's the approach I'd suggest. But if he wants something now, this build'll work very well.

S'all about options.
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January 29, 2013 2:11:54 AM

Its up to you on the graphics card I wouldn't spend anything less then 100 dollars on a card I feel personally the value isn't there but I could be wrong shrugs.
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January 29, 2013 2:12:19 AM

6770 is good tho,. a little slower than 7700 but still decent.

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January 29, 2013 2:13:54 AM

It depends on ones expectations I would say its been a while since I've gotten a card that was good enough to do something.
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January 29, 2013 2:15:13 AM

iceclock said:
hmm.

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Adkr
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Adkr/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Adkr/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-3470 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($149.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard: ASRock H77M Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair XMS3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($37.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI Radeon HD 6770 1GB Video Card ($86.97 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master Elite 370 ATX Mid Tower Case ($36.39 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Antec Neo Eco 620W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS72 DVD/CD Writer ($22.75 @ Amazon)
Total: $434.07
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-28 23:06 EST-0500)

seems about right.

Base Total: $480.09
Mail-in Rebates: -$20.00
Shipping: $12.97
Total: $473.06

i needed my barnicle glasses to read oh my :p 


iceclock said:
6770 is good tho,. a little slower than 7700 but still decent.


Could probably wedge a 7770 in there instead of you dropped the optical drive :) 

i5 + 7770 might be better than i3 + 7850.
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January 29, 2013 2:16:50 AM

Only reason I would try and stick with the i5 is that more and more things are being optimized with quad cores in mind.
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January 29, 2013 2:19:53 AM

bigshootr8 said:
Only reason I would try and stick with the i5 is that more and more things are being optimized with quad cores in mind.


Yeah, I don't disagree. It's a tough call.
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January 29, 2013 2:23:22 AM

agreed sometimes its better to spend that little extra.
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January 29, 2013 3:57:26 AM

depends if uve got the extra or not, also the i3 dualcores are a decent alternative. or the 6core amds are nice for the price also.

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January 29, 2013 4:45:52 AM

Well that is what we are discussing the i3 and the i5. There aren't many programs that utilize more then 4 cores that is why I hadn't really brought up the AMD platform. Also, there memory controller is a bit weak.
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January 29, 2013 12:03:05 PM

Fulgurant said:
Or he could go with something like this and have a whole system right now:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i3-3220 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor ($121.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Asus P8B75-M/CSM Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($78.24 @ Amazon)
Memory: Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($38.50 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: HIS Radeon HD 7850 1GB Video Card ($169.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Antec 450W ATX12V Power Supply ($30.95 @ NCIX US)
Total: $489.64
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-28 23:08 EST-0500)

(I'm assuming that he already has an optical drive and an OS.)

bigshootr8's build will be much much stronger if and when the OP saves enough money to buy a good graphics card. If the OP thinks he can save up that money quickly and/or he doesn't mind waiting, then that's the approach I'd suggest. But if he wants something now, this build'll work very well.

S'all about options.


What if I went ahead and got the i5 with this build? What build would would be prefered this one or bigshootr8?
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January 29, 2013 12:17:28 PM

Mine is good if you want to hold off on the gpu. I have a hard time recommending dual core chips to people the i3 for example because more and more applications are taking advantage of the processing of quad core. I just have the mindset of building a solid foundation then attacking your graphic needs but others may think different.
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January 29, 2013 12:48:34 PM

ud future proof urself more, and get more performance.

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/AgFr
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/AgFr/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/AgFr/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-3470 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($149.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard: ASRock H77M Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($37.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: HIS Radeon HD 7850 1GB Video Card ($169.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Antec Neo Eco 620W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $497.93
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-29 09:48 EST-0500)

Base Total: $552.94
Mail-in Rebates: -$30.00
Shipping: $4.99
Total: $527.93

should do the trick.



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January 29, 2013 12:52:44 PM

I just don't care much for the 1 gigabyte card. Some games do go over the 1 gigabyte threshold. You do get a lot of bang for the buck though.
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January 29, 2013 1:05:06 PM

yeah well u gotta think budget also. not everyone can afford the 2gb cards.

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January 29, 2013 1:59:59 PM

I do. I just look at things from a value standpoint and what he is losing out on by not getting the 2 gigabyte card. If he picks up something like BF3 what that would do for him. And games that require that amount of vrm to really push the settings. You can make it work but the things you give up I guess is why I wouldn't.
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January 29, 2013 2:03:51 PM

yep but u gotta stay within there budget, a word alot of people here simply dont get.

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January 29, 2013 2:07:49 PM

No I agree with you that people don't stick to budget. He hasn't really set a hard capped budget he said he would like to stay under 500 and even the build you've placed is above that point. If he is already spending 50 over out of pocket then you wise as well make the leap to the more optimal solution. For 10 dollars over what you were suggesting you can get a 2 gigabyte version of the 7850.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
or
msi twin frozr 7850 2gb
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B007MLSGHE/?tag=pcpapi-20
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January 29, 2013 2:11:23 PM

oh i agree for 10$ more its worth it.

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Ahe2
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Ahe2/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Ahe2/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-3470 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($149.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard: ASRock H77M Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($37.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon HD 7850 2GB Video Card ($179.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Antec Neo Eco 620W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $507.93
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-29 11:10 EST-0500)

Base Total: $572.94
Mail-in Rebates: -$40.00
Shipping: $4.99
Total: $537.93

if u can afford the extra 15-20$ totally worth it dude since most games use more than 1gig of video memory.

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