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December 14, 2012 9:29:34 PM

I have been tearing my hair out the past few days over various new problems building a friends system and finally decided to look for help!

My mates pc has the following spec

H61 Motherboard GA-H61MA-D2V
G2120 Pentium Chip (Ivy bridge dual core 3.1ghz)
2 4 Gb sticks of 1333 RAM
320Gb Sata2 hd
and a Geforce 650 power edition GTX
430 Watt corsair builder power supply

Right, where to start. His computer works perfectly using intergrated graphics but as soon as I put the Geforce 650 GTX in the display does come on but hangs on the pre-bios graphic display (the american megatrends logo).

This alone could have been the graphics card or the PCI Express slots issue BUT I tried the 650 into my pc and it booted fine. So I tried my 470 GTX (with my computers power supply which is a XFX 650 Watt) and the new build pc worked fine with that.

So that leaves the power supply not having enough power...... so i tried the 650 gtx with the 650 watt power supply and the same thing happened! I'm at a total loss. I've tried reseting the CMOS, theres no POST beep codes and I haven't got a clue how to diagnose the problem any further.

If anyone can help you'll be saving me from an early grave. I am kind of rushing typing this because I'm supposed to be going out so sorry if this is hard to understand.

Thank you!

a b U Graphics card
December 14, 2012 9:41:27 PM

Sounds like a bad motherboard.
Try a different video card on the H61.
a b U Graphics card
December 14, 2012 9:53:15 PM

Thats really weird. You've tried everything I would do. I agree with memadmax. Try his suggestion
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December 14, 2012 9:56:04 PM

1. reset the bios to the defaults settings
2. put just 1 memory stick and try to boot it up again
3. if that didn't work your have a bad motherboard ( bad pcie slot ) just like memadax said
December 14, 2012 10:28:01 PM

But the 470 GTX works in it! so how can it be a bad pci express slot? The gtx 470 is bigger and needs more power so I don't see why the 650 shouldn't work.
a b U Graphics card
December 14, 2012 10:29:08 PM

astralking said:
But the 470 GTX works in it! so how can it be a bad pci express slot? The gtx 470 is bigger and needs more power so I don't see why the 650 shouldn't work.


Hmm, well I didnt notice that. Thats odd
December 14, 2012 10:30:59 PM

Not only that, the first motherboard I bought didn't even boot at all. I am going to have a mental breakdown if this one is messed up as well :( 
a b U Graphics card
December 14, 2012 10:31:06 PM

I know PCI-e 3.0 card are "Supposed" to work in PCI-e 2.0 Boards but have seen some exceptions. Could it be a BIOS update is needed?
Of course, Id research the MB first if possible. BIOS updates are never fun lol. At least from me (And a few ppl i know) Experiences.
December 14, 2012 10:34:34 PM

It's a PCI 3.0 board though. The next and only other step I can think of is flashing the bios but It doesn't say on my board if it's rev 2.0 or 2.1. Can't seem to find out from anywhere.
a b U Graphics card
December 14, 2012 10:35:50 PM

Yeah, I just noticed lol
December 14, 2012 10:39:17 PM

Have you tried disabling the onboard graphics in the bios? Usually it does it automatically, but I've seen cases where the onboard and discrete graphics cards conflict with each other.
December 14, 2012 10:41:54 PM

Yup. Just ended up me having to reset the bios again cos I couldn't get a picture back.
a b U Graphics card
December 14, 2012 10:44:00 PM

Yeah, I checked the BIOS updates for said board and nothing said anything about makes PCI 3 available in anyway.
a b U Graphics card
December 14, 2012 10:54:42 PM

Sounds like a bad board =D
December 14, 2012 11:00:25 PM

Mate just brought round his 5570 and that's working fine as well!
December 14, 2012 11:12:38 PM

Im going to guess that when you tried the gtx 650 and the 430w PSU for the first time, something got toasted. Thus the combo of the gtx 650, his motherboard and the 430watt PSU no longer play nice together.

Since you already tried your 650w PSU on his motherboard, with his GTX 650, it sounds like the motherboard has gone bad.

Suggestions:
1) Your friend needs a bigger PSU (a 650w by XFX or Corsair will work good)
2) RMA or replace the motherboard
December 17, 2012 9:32:36 AM

Well, the plot thickens..... Turns out, the G2120 isn't PCI 3.0 Compatible!

BUT what makes this even weirder is this:

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/budget-gaming-do-it...

I based my build on this, buying a better processor of the same range. When I decided to look further into I realised the G850 isn't PCI 3.0 compatible! So how do tomshardware claim that they made the machine AND benchmarked it when the G850 and the radeon 7850 aren't even compatible?

Clearly says here:

http://ark.intel.com/products/53491/Intel-Pentium-Proce...(3M-Cache-2_90-GHz)
http://www.amd.com/us/products/desktop/graphics/7000/78...

a c 291 U Graphics card
December 17, 2012 10:11:58 AM

They are compatible: PCI express versions mix together well.

I'd suggest trying to boot with bare minimum: disconnect all the peripherals, like hard drive, optical drive, leave only one stick of RAM, etc.
December 17, 2012 11:02:11 AM

Well, the plot thickens..... Turns out, the G2120 isn't PCI 3.0 Compatible!

BUT what makes this even weirder is this:

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/budget-gaming-do-it...

I based my build on this, buying a better processor of the same range. When I decided to look further into I realised the G850 isn't PCI 3.0 compatible! So how do tomshardware claim that they made the machine AND benchmarked it when the G850 and the radeon 7850 aren't even compatible?

Clearly says here:

http://ark.intel.com/products/53491/Intel-Pentium-Proce...(3M-Cache-2_90-GHz)
http://www.amd.com/us/products/desktop/graphics/7000/78...

December 17, 2012 11:06:14 AM

Weird, it wasn't letting me submit my reply but apparently it went up twice? and now it wont let me edit the last one. Bah.

I've found that the 650 GTX works in a friends computer also. I'm at a total loss. I tried every possible combination there is Sunius spanning about 12 hours and using various bits from my PC.
a c 291 U Graphics card
December 17, 2012 11:28:54 AM

Were all the components for the PC bought at the same shop?
December 17, 2012 12:16:08 PM

Originally yes but then the original motherboard I got was DOA so bought a second one from somewhere else.
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