And more on the 5D :-)

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On Fri, 02 Sep 2005 22:07:02 -0700, Slack
<slacker7_ReMoVe_ThIs@scglobal.net> wrote:

>http://www.luminous-landscape.com/columns/sm-sept4-05.shtml and don't
>cheat by skipping the rebuttal at the end of the article/
>
>
>The funny thing is, with all the frothy smack talking, you guys are
>going to make the 5D one of the best selling dslr's ever.

Well it has to be. It's much more affordable than the top Canon,
gives the old folks home people the full frame sensor they NEED
and isn't too heavy so regular shooters won't mind lugging it around.
But the sample images, especially the landscape were not great.
The landscape (to me) still looks odd. Apart from the optical
problems of the lens(?) the sky looks like it was grafted into the
picture. I don't know why, and I assume it wasn't, it just looks odd.
-Rich

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Slack <slacker7_ReMoVe_ThIs@scglobal.net> wrote:

>http://www.luminous-landscape.com/columns/sm-sept4-05.shtml and don't
>cheat by skipping the rebuttal at the end of the article/
>
>
>The funny thing is, with all the frothy smack talking, you guys are
>going to make the 5D one of the best selling dslr's ever.


I think everyone recognises that Canon changed the world (of digital
photography) forever with the EOS 300D/Rebel, the first affordable
DSLR. Now they have changed the world (ditto) once again, with the
EOS 5D, the first affordable full frame (24x36mm) DSLR. In terms of
the DSLR market, the 5D is every bit as significant as the 300D was.

Of course the EOS 5D will be one of the best selling DSLRs ever. It
will almost certainly be the best selling full frame (24x36mm) DSLR
for the next couple of years. Nikon's first full frame DSLR won't
arrive until 2006, and it will not compete on price with the EOS 5D,
being aimed more at the market for the EOS 1Ds II.

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Tony Polson wrote:
> Slack <slacker7_ReMoVe_ThIs@scglobal.net> wrote:
>
>
>>http://www.luminous-landscape.com/columns/sm-sept4-05.shtml and don't
>>cheat by skipping the rebuttal at the end of the article/
>>
>>
>>The funny thing is, with all the frothy smack talking, you guys are
>>going to make the 5D one of the best selling dslr's ever.
>
>
>
> I think everyone recognises that Canon changed the world (of digital
> photography) forever with the EOS 300D/Rebel, the first affordable
> DSLR. Now they have changed the world (ditto) once again, with the
> EOS 5D, the first affordable full frame (24x36mm) DSLR. In terms of
> the DSLR market, the 5D is every bit as significant as the 300D was.
>
> Of course the EOS 5D will be one of the best selling DSLRs ever. It
> will almost certainly be the best selling full frame (24x36mm) DSLR
> for the next couple of years. Nikon's first full frame DSLR won't
> arrive until 2006, and it will not compete on price with the EOS 5D,
> being aimed more at the market for the EOS 1Ds II.


That's plain wrong. At $3200, 5D won't be the best selling dSLRs. The
crown should belong to 350D and D50. Your statement would be correct, as
the best selling FF dSLR.

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Rich wrote:
> On Sun, 04 Sep 2005 08:01:48 -0400, l e o <someone@somewhere.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>>Tony Polson wrote:
>>
>>>Slack <slacker7_ReMoVe_ThIs@scglobal.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>http://www.luminous-landscape.com/columns/sm-sept4-05.shtml and don't
>>>>cheat by skipping the rebuttal at the end of the article/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>The funny thing is, with all the frothy smack talking, you guys are
>>>>going to make the 5D one of the best selling dslr's ever.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>I think everyone recognises that Canon changed the world (of digital
>>>photography) forever with the EOS 300D/Rebel, the first affordable
>>>DSLR. Now they have changed the world (ditto) once again, with the
>>>EOS 5D, the first affordable full frame (24x36mm) DSLR. In terms of
>>>the DSLR market, the 5D is every bit as significant as the 300D was.
>>>
>>>Of course the EOS 5D will be one of the best selling DSLRs ever. It
>>>will almost certainly be the best selling full frame (24x36mm) DSLR
>>>for the next couple of years. Nikon's first full frame DSLR won't
>>>arrive until 2006, and it will not compete on price with the EOS 5D,
>>>being aimed more at the market for the EOS 1Ds II.
>>
>>
>>That's plain wrong. At $3200, 5D won't be the best selling dSLRs. The
>>crown should belong to 350D and D50. Your statement would be correct, as
>>the best selling FF dSLR.
>
>
> Since new DSLR consumers seem to be a major driving force in sales,
> I'd say your prediction is the right one. For some reason, despite
> their complexity, DSLRs seem to have a smaller "fear factor" for the
> general public than SLRs used to.
> -Rich


It's got nothing to do with fear, it is the removal of the PIA factor.
Now that we no longer have go through a "middle man" to enjoy (or curse)
our own work, it busted the doors wide open.

Film served it purpose, but it's now time to toss those little canisters
in the dumpster.
--
Slack

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Slack wrote:

> http://www.luminous-landscape.com/ [...] 4-05.shtml and don't
> cheat by skipping the rebuttal at the end of the article/
>
>
> The funny thing is, with all the frothy smack talking, you guys are
> going to make the 5D one of the best selling dslr's ever.


This NG has little market influence.

As to the camera, if pixels/$ in FF are a benchmark, it looks like it
will have a very large following even before the innevitable price
rolldown and rebates.


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On Sun, 04 Sep 2005 12:44:08 -0700, Slack
<slacker7_ReMoVe_ThIs@scglobal.net> wrote:

>Rich wrote:
>> On Sun, 04 Sep 2005 08:01:48 -0400, l e o <someone@somewhere.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Tony Polson wrote:
>>>
>>>>Slack <slacker7_ReMoVe_ThIs@scglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>http://www.luminous-landscape.com/columns/sm-sept4-05.shtml and don't
>>>>>cheat by skipping the rebuttal at the end of the article/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>The funny thing is, with all the frothy smack talking, you guys are
>>>>>going to make the 5D one of the best selling dslr's ever.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I think everyone recognises that Canon changed the world (of digital
>>>>photography) forever with the EOS 300D/Rebel, the first affordable
>>>>DSLR. Now they have changed the world (ditto) once again, with the
>>>>EOS 5D, the first affordable full frame (24x36mm) DSLR. In terms of
>>>>the DSLR market, the 5D is every bit as significant as the 300D was.
>>>>
>>>>Of course the EOS 5D will be one of the best selling DSLRs ever. It
>>>>will almost certainly be the best selling full frame (24x36mm) DSLR
>>>>for the next couple of years. Nikon's first full frame DSLR won't
>>>>arrive until 2006, and it will not compete on price with the EOS 5D,
>>>>being aimed more at the market for the EOS 1Ds II.
>>>
>>>
>>>That's plain wrong. At $3200, 5D won't be the best selling dSLRs. The
>>>crown should belong to 350D and D50. Your statement would be correct, as
>>>the best selling FF dSLR.
>>
>>
>> Since new DSLR consumers seem to be a major driving force in sales,
>> I'd say your prediction is the right one. For some reason, despite
>> their complexity, DSLRs seem to have a smaller "fear factor" for the
>> general public than SLRs used to.
>> -Rich
>
>
>It's got nothing to do with fear, it is the removal of the PIA factor.
>Now that we no longer have go through a "middle man" to enjoy (or curse)
>our own work, it busted the doors wide open.
>
>Film served it purpose, but it's now time to toss those little canisters
>in the dumpster.

It was time when 3 meg cameras came out.
-Rich

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"Rich" <none@none.com> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 04 Sep 2005 12:44:08 -0700, Slack
> <slacker7_ReMoVe_ThIs@scglobal.net> wrote:
>
> >
> >Film served it purpose, but it's now time to toss those little canisters
> >in the dumpster.
>
> It was time when 3 meg cameras came out.
> -Rich

You guys sound like you're preaching to the choir...

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