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January 30, 2013 8:48:09 PM

Hi all

So I have a dilemma.

My current PC is about 6 years old and hideously out of date. I need to purchase/build a new PC with an emphasis on gaming. A friend built a pc based on an article in Eurogamer - http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/df-hardware-introduci... I've also done a fair bit of research myself and come up with a build.

I'm looking for the following;

60fps at 1080p would be the desired fps, at high/top settings would be good but not essential, as long as notching down settings isn't overly noticeable, i'm not too fussed. I would like it to be relatively future proof though, especially with MMORPGs in mind like EVE or Elder Scrolls.

Not planning to use Crossfire/SLI or perform any overclocking so the capacity for either is not required.

I move a lot of files around via external hdd, mp3 players, phones, network etc. so USB 3 would be nice. Also need a decent HDD to cope with the movements.

I may want to upgrade to SSD eventually so sata3 and 6 gb/s support would be nice

Think that's about it.

So, the 2 builds. Eurogamer and the parts I've found first;

ASRock H61M-VS Motherboard and Intel G840 2.8ghz CPU
Casecom MA-1199 matx case
Crucial Ballistix DDR3 8gb (4gbx2) RAM
Seagate Spinpoint F3 500gb 7200 rpm HDD
Corsair-CMPSU-430CXV2UK
DVD Drive
I can't decide on which of the 3 Graphics Cards so here they all are;
XFX Radeon HD 6770
Sapphire Radeon HD 7750
or
XFX Radeon HD 6870

I've read that the 6870 is superior but doesn't perform best without quad core, which would bump the price up on this budget build

This build comes out at just under £330 with the 7750 card in.

Now my build;

Asus-P8B75-M-LX-Motherboard
Intel Core i5 3350P Processor
Asus Radeon HD 7850 GPU
Corsair Vengeance DDR3 16gb (8gbx2) RAM
Samsung F3 7200 RPM 1TB HDD
Be Quiet Pure Power L7 530W PSU
Samsung DVD-RW Drive with LightScribe
CiT Vantage Midi Mesh Gaming Case

With this being my first planned build, I need to know whether it's all likely to slot together ok. From all the info I could find, it seems ok but some advice would be very much appreciated.

This build comes to around £585. That is a 77% increase in price. The obvious question is 'Am I likely to see a 77% increase in performance?'. If there are significant improvements in these areas - loading times, watching/streaming HD video, moving files, FPS, 'future-proofing' - then I can probably justify spending the extra money.

That about sums up my predicament.

I would very much welcome comments regarding the builds and any improvements/alterations that would not adjust the price too much. Looking at between £300-£600.

If you think you know of a better build at similar prices that have the above stipulations in mind (no crossfire/SLI/OC, 1080p60fps), please do share :) 

Many thanks!

Tim

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January 31, 2013 6:04:43 AM

Hi. That build looks good but you don't need 16GB RAM. You should go with something higher than the HD 7850 1GB at 1080p and I recommend a different PSU. If you don't mind buying from other websites, the build below is better and cheaper. You can get a similar build just from Amazon too but for a little more. I didn't max out your budget but you can get an H77 motherboard or the HD 7870 (or HD 7870 XT) or higher (GTX 660 Ti or HD 7950 with XFX 550W PSU) if you want to. Feel free to make changes as you'd like. I'm not sure which benchmark to use to see whether it will be a 77% performance increase. A quad-core is more future-proof than a dual-core. A better graphics card will improve the fps. An SSD will improve the loading times and moving files. And both builds will have no trouble with HD videos. All I can say is that £330 build isn't going to give you 60 fps at 1080p in high settings.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3470 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor (£142.20 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: Asus P8B75-M LX PLUS Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard (£46.79 @ Dabs)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£41.93 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£53.87 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 660 2GB Video Card (£159.98 @ Novatech)
Case: CiT Vantage ATX Mid Tower Case (£35.01 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 450W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply (£36.98 @ Novatech)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS90 DVD/CD Writer (£14.40 @ Novatech)
Total: £531.16
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-31 07:48 GMT+0000)
January 31, 2013 6:37:53 AM

Here's my take on the build, most points have already been covered by johnsonjohnson

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3470 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor (£142.20 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: MSI B75MA-E33 Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard (£42.98 @ Novatech)
Memory: Corsair XMS3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£32.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£50.63 @ CCL Computers)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7850 2GB Video Card (£138.98 @ CCL Computers)
Case: Thermaltake Commander MS/I Snow Edition (White/Black) ATX Mid Tower Case (£43.98 @ Novatech)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 450W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply (£36.98 @ Novatech)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer (£12.98 @ Scan.co.uk)
Total: £501.72
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-31 08:36 GMT+0000)
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January 31, 2013 10:47:05 PM

Thanks guys.

Having read a few extra reviews and pondering a little over the parts, I have ordered pretty much the build that you suggested johnsonjohnson, so thank you very much for that! :) 

I'll let you know how I get on with the build and subsequent performance tests ;) 
!