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January 31, 2013 6:31:22 AM

Hello everyone,

I am going to be attempting my first desktop build and was looking for any advice that those of you who are more experienced than myself may offer. My main requirement for this computer is that I can run World of Warcraft on Ultra setting as that is really the only game I play. I may purchase and play Diablo 3 and Starcraft 2 in the future but as of right now I do not. My current build is a little more than I would like to spend and was wondering if there are any corners I could cut to make this build cheaper and still meet my expectations for the machine. My current build I am thinking of is as follows:

Case: Zalman Z9 ATX mid tower $41.99
http://microcenter.com/product/355148/Z9_ATX_Mid_Tower_...

CPU: I5-3570k $189.99
http://microcenter.com/product/388577/Core_i5_3570K_34G...

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-D3H LGA 1155 Z77 ATX $134.99
http://microcenter.com/product/386363/GA-Z77X-D3H_LGA_1...

RAM: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8gb DDR3-1600 $41.99
http://microcenter.com/product/382101/Ballistix_Sport_8...

HDD: Toshiba 1TB 7,200 RPM $59.99 (looking to add SSD later)
http://microcenter.com/product/400847/1TB_7,200_RPM_SAT...

GPU: Nvidia GeForce GTX 660 2gb $219.99
http://microcenter.com/product/400675/02G-P4-2662-KR_NV...

Optical Drive: Samsung DVD/RW $16.99
http://microcenter.com/product/403970/SH-224BB-BEBE_SAT...

Monitor: Asus 21.5' 1080p $149.99 (would like to have 1080p minimum)
http://microcenter.com/product/355062/215_Widescreen_LE...

Lighting: Logisys dual 12" Blue Cathode Light kit $9.99 (Love look of LEDs)
http://microcenter.com/product/391690/Dual_12_Blue_Cold...

OS: Windows 8 home premium $97.99

PSU: Cooler Master Extreme Power Plus 500W ATX ATX 12v $47.99
http://microcenter.com/product/295037/eXtreme_Power_Plu...

The PSU for me is honestly the one thing I am not sure it will work. I know the GPU I listed requires at least 400W but I am wondering if this PSU is sufficient for all I want to incorporate into the system? Again, I am new to this PC building thing and my only real requirement is that I can run Wow on Ultra. Altogether this comes to $1,011.89 which is a little higher than I would like to spend. I would prefer to be in the 800-900 dollar range obviously the less the better but I need to be able to meet my expectations. My current computer cannot run WOW on anything near ultra and it really seems to take away from the game, especially after seeing a video of it running on Ultra settings. I would appreciate any advice any of you could provide me and I really appreciate you taking the time to help me.




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January 31, 2013 6:57:06 AM

i would bump the ps to a 650 or 750w to be safe. it not the total wattage it the amps and wattage on the 12v rail.
most ps there sweet spot is 50 percent loading. if you look at hardcop forum there ps tests they load the ps to 75 percent of max rating for 8 hours stress test.
a lot of times some ps vendors fudge there numbers. so it better to buy a slightly higher watatge ps to be safe.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
the issue with power supplys is if they cant handle the gpu when you game you can get the card to drop to the desktop or the system can lock up. the ps may be able to output the voltage needed but it may not be clean dc power and have a lot of ac ripple noise in it. worst case is under having gaming an a power supply near it 12v rail max the ps can have a cap failure and take your rig out.
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January 31, 2013 7:20:24 AM

1. You can go with a non-OC build. would save you alot. Unless you really prefer it.
2. 500w is pretty enough. But yes, you can be more cautious and go 550/600. for a single gpu build even with oc. Just make sure you get quality psu, try to check the link below. But don't go 750w if you don't plan to dual gpu. That would be too much.

http://www.eggxpert.com/forums/thread/323050.aspx
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January 31, 2013 8:55:49 AM

admbautista said:
1. You can go with a non-OC build. would save you alot. Unless you really prefer it.
2. 500w is pretty enough. But yes, you can be more cautious and go 550/600. for a single gpu build even with oc. Just make sure you get quality psu, try to check the link below. But don't go 750w if you don't plan to dual gpu. That would be too much.

http://www.eggxpert.com/forums/thread/323050.aspx


Thank you very much for your response. To be honest I do not even know how to overclock I just know that it provides more power at a time that you may need more processing power. My concern is that if I decided to go with a non OC build do you think that my expectations will be met and World of Warcraft would be able to run on ultra setting? In addition, will going with the non OC capable processor cause it to bottleneck my GPU? I have also heard that the performance of World of Warcraft is heavily dependent on CPU power almost as equally if not more so than GPU power. Is there any truth to this statement do you know? I am also wondering if I really need 2gb of dedicated vRAM as I am only using it for gaming and not for graphic design or video editing of any kind. Will the 2gb be utilized by playing games like World of Warcraft or Diablo 3? I appreciate your advice and time, again thank you very much.
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February 1, 2013 2:03:53 AM

rheiss591 said:
Thank you very much for your response. To be honest I do not even know how to overclock I just know that it provides more power at a time that you may need more processing power. My concern is that if I decided to go with a non OC build do you think that my expectations will be met and World of Warcraft would be able to run on ultra setting? In addition, will going with the non OC capable processor cause it to bottleneck my GPU? I have also heard that the performance of World of Warcraft is heavily dependent on CPU power almost as equally if not more so than GPU power. Is there any truth to this statement do you know? I am also wondering if I really need 2gb of dedicated vRAM as I am only using it for gaming and not for graphic design or video editing of any kind. Will the 2gb be utilized by playing games like World of Warcraft or Diablo 3? I appreciate your advice and time, again thank you very much.



1. Overclocking nowadays is really easy. But yes, you don't actually need it, unless you'll be really hardcore. It maybe needed in future years once your hardware is far behind, but for me, ocing will not jump it that much, maybe like a year or a half. e.g. (non-oc build = 3 years before it gets far behind ; oc build = 3 1/2- 4 years)
2. Yes, I think WoW is cpu dependent but it will not bottleneck your gpu. going with a non-oc cpu like 3470 is still fine. It is still a powerful cpu.
3. 2gb will do fine. I'm guessing you'll be playing at 1920x1080.
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February 3, 2013 2:31:07 AM

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February 3, 2013 2:33:03 AM

admbautista said:
1. Overclocking nowadays is really easy. But yes, you don't actually need it, unless you'll be really hardcore. It maybe needed in future years once your hardware is far behind, but for me, ocing will not jump it that much, maybe like a year or a half. e.g. (non-oc build = 3 years before it gets far behind ; oc build = 3 1/2- 4 years)
2. Yes, I think WoW is cpu dependent but it will not bottleneck your gpu. going with a non-oc cpu like 3470 is still fine. It is still a powerful cpu.
3. 2gb will do fine. I'm guessing you'll be playing at 1920x1080.


I see. Thank you for much for the information. I think I will go with the oc build was looking online and it is not a too big of a difference in price. I appreciate your time and help on the matter, again thank you!
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February 4, 2013 1:53:48 AM

Nice. Good for you. Pricing is one of the points for picking between oc or not. In our place, going for an oc build cost more than usual. But yes, going for oc build will be really better. :)  goodluck on your build.
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