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Have a new XT and I wonder about the number of hot pixels I'm getting
with the lens cap test.
My results:

Parameter 2
no dead pixels

iso 100
1 sec 0 hot pixels
5 sec 1 hot pixels
10 sec 6 hot pixels

iso 400
1 sec 1 hot pixels
5 sec 39 hot pixels
10 sec 143 hot pixels

Is this to be expected? Should it be returned?
Thanx for your input.

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Try pixel mapping. Oops! Sorry!
-Rich

On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 19:50:48 -0400, spbarron@rogers.com wrote:

>Have a new XT and I wonder about the number of hot pixels I'm getting
>with the lens cap test.
>My results:
>
>Parameter 2
>no dead pixels
>
>iso 100
> 1 sec 0 hot pixels
> 5 sec 1 hot pixels
> 10 sec 6 hot pixels
>
>iso 400
> 1 sec 1 hot pixels
> 5 sec 39 hot pixels
> 10 sec 143 hot pixels
>
>Is this to be expected? Should it be returned?
>Thanx for your input.

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In article <o0vuh198schdie6t8dksulck1tusnmd45v@4ax.com>,
spbarron@rogers.com says...
> Have a new XT and I wonder about the number of hot pixels I'm getting
> with the lens cap test.
> My results:
>
> Parameter 2
> no dead pixels
>
> iso 100
> 1 sec 0 hot pixels
> 5 sec 1 hot pixels
> 10 sec 6 hot pixels
>
> iso 400
> 1 sec 1 hot pixels
> 5 sec 39 hot pixels
> 10 sec 143 hot pixels
>
> Is this to be expected? Should it be returned?
> Thanx for your input.

I'd say you're fine.

For anything over 1-2 seconds, enable the noise reduction under the
custom functions. That will map out the dead pixels.

Or shoot RAW and process with a reputable RAW converter. IT will also
map out the dead pixels.
--
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"Brian Baird" <no@no.thank.u> wrote in message
news:MPG.1d89937cca0de223989a27@news.verizon.net...
> In article <o0vuh198schdie6t8dksulck1tusnmd45v@4ax.com>,
> spbarron@rogers.com says...
> > Have a new XT and I wonder about the number of hot pixels I'm getting
> > with the lens cap test.
> > My results:
> >
> > Parameter 2
> > no dead pixels
> >
> > iso 100
> > 1 sec 0 hot pixels
> > 5 sec 1 hot pixels
> > 10 sec 6 hot pixels
> >
> > iso 400
> > 1 sec 1 hot pixels
> > 5 sec 39 hot pixels
> > 10 sec 143 hot pixels
> >
> > Is this to be expected? Should it be returned?
> > Thanx for your input.
>
> I'd say you're fine.
>
> For anything over 1-2 seconds, enable the noise reduction under the
> custom functions. That will map out the dead pixels.

On the Rebel XT I believe that is only for exposures over 30 seconds, and it
effectively doubles exposure time.

>
> Or shoot RAW and process with a reputable RAW converter.

Which ones?

Greg

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"Rich" <none@none.com> wrote in message
news:dp4vh1thg7fjl0nhmmm5fj7ntkhhu7ksum@4ax.com...
> Try pixel mapping. Oops! Sorry!
> -Rich

Isn't that just a method to hide them and pretend they don't exist ?

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In article <11hvrt21gjj7f9@corp.supernews.com>, getnews1@dslextreme.com
says...
> > custom functions. That will map out the dead pixels.
>
> On the Rebel XT I believe that is only for exposures over 30 seconds, and it
> effectively doubles exposure time.

Yeah, but it does work well for removing noise from longer exposures.

> > Or shoot RAW and process with a reputable RAW converter.
>
> Which ones?

ACR does it, as does Capture One. I can't speak for the others.
--
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"Brian Baird" <no@no.thank.u> wrote in message
news:MPG.1d8a51b0451cb991989a28@news.verizon.net...
> In article <11hvrt21gjj7f9@corp.supernews.com>, getnews1@dslextreme.com
> says...
> > > custom functions. That will map out the dead pixels.
> >
> > On the Rebel XT I believe that is only for exposures over 30 seconds,
and it
> > effectively doubles exposure time.
>
> Yeah, but it does work well for removing noise from longer exposures.
>
> > > Or shoot RAW and process with a reputable RAW converter.
> >
> > Which ones?
>
> ACR does it, as does Capture One. I can't speak for the others.

Which version of ACR? I'm stuck with 2.4 for awhile. Is it automagical or
a preference?

Greg

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In message <dfovcd$1l0$1@news8.svr.pol.co.uk>,
"dylan" <no@nowhere.com> wrote:

>"Rich" <none@none.com> wrote in message
>news:dp4vh1thg7fjl0nhmmm5fj7ntkhhu7ksum@4ax.com...
>> Try pixel mapping. Oops! Sorry!
>> -Rich

>Isn't that just a method to hide them and pretend they don't exist ?

More precisely, it is a way of rejecting their contribution to the
image.
--

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John P Sheehy <JPS@no.komm>
><<> <>>< <>>< ><<> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>><

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"G.T." <getnews1@dslextreme.com> wrote in message
news:11hvrt21gjj7f9@corp.supernews.com...
>
> "Brian Baird" <no@no.thank.u> wrote in message
> news:MPG.1d89937cca0de223989a27@news.verizon.net...
>> In article <o0vuh198schdie6t8dksulck1tusnmd45v@4ax.com>,
>> spbarron@rogers.com says...
>> > Have a new XT and I wonder about the number of hot pixels I'm getting
>> > with the lens cap test.
>> > My results:
>> >
>> > Parameter 2
>> > no dead pixels
>> >
>> > iso 100
>> > 1 sec 0 hot pixels
>> > 5 sec 1 hot pixels
>> > 10 sec 6 hot pixels
>> >
>> > iso 400
>> > 1 sec 1 hot pixels
>> > 5 sec 39 hot pixels
>> > 10 sec 143 hot pixels
>> >
>> > Is this to be expected? Should it be returned?
>> > Thanx for your input.
>>
>> I'd say you're fine.
>>
>> For anything over 1-2 seconds, enable the noise reduction under the
>> custom functions. That will map out the dead pixels.
>
> On the Rebel XT I believe that is only for exposures over 30 seconds, and
> it
> effectively doubles exposure time.
>
>>
>> Or shoot RAW and process with a reputable RAW converter.
>
> Which ones?
>
> Greg<

--


Silkypix does, Adobe Camera Raw does - RSE does not, Bibble does not,
Capture One LE does not

Since Silkypix is *the* best 'affordable' converter, that's the one to go
for.

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"Pink & Perky sing Moody & Sankey" <pigs@work.com> wrote:

>It's got to be said that Pixel Mapping is the best Olympus feature, and one
>that really should be incorporated in other manufacturer's firmware.


It is the *third best* Olympus feature, behind the absolutely
outstanding (near-) telecentric lenses and the dust removal.

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<

"Tony Polson" <tp@nospam.co.uk> wrote in message
news:ouk2i15ln8h3efgmge384o9t767elmtnlv@4ax.com...
> "Pink & Perky sing Moody & Sankey" <pigs@work.com> wrote:
>
>>It's got to be said that Pixel Mapping is the best Olympus feature, and
>>one
>>that really should be incorporated in other manufacturer's firmware.
>
>
> It is the *third best* Olympus feature, behind the absolutely
> outstanding (near-) telecentric lenses and the dust removal<


The lenses are no better than, and often not as good as, other high quality
glass - and the 'dust removal' facility is one of *the* most over-rated
'features' ever devised by marketing monkeys.

Cleaning a sensor takes only a minute or so - and only the totally clueless
would be loathe to perform this simple task themselves, and know that they'd
made a much better job of it than any 'supersonic sensor shaker' ever could.

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"Pink & Perky sing Moody & Sankey" <pigs@work.com> wrote:

>The lenses are no better than, and often not as good as, other high quality
>glass


There speaks another idiot who has never used them.

This newsgroup seems to be a repository for some people who make
dogmatic and usually totally incorrect statements about equipment they
have never handled, let alone used.

Is your real name Browne?

;-)

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On Fri, 9 Sep 2005 11:32:53 +0100, "Pink & Perky sing Moody & Sankey"
<pigs@work.com> wrote:

><
>
>"Tony Polson" <tp@nospam.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:ouk2i15ln8h3efgmge384o9t767elmtnlv@4ax.com...
>> "Pink & Perky sing Moody & Sankey" <pigs@work.com> wrote:
>>
>>>It's got to be said that Pixel Mapping is the best Olympus feature, and
>>>one
>>>that really should be incorporated in other manufacturer's firmware.
>>
>>
>> It is the *third best* Olympus feature, behind the absolutely
>> outstanding (near-) telecentric lenses and the dust removal<
>
>
>The lenses are no better than, and often not as good as, other high quality
>glass - and the 'dust removal' facility is one of *the* most over-rated
>'features' ever devised by marketing monkeys.
>
>Cleaning a sensor takes only a minute or so - and only the totally clueless
>would be loathe to perform this simple task themselves, and know that they'd
>made a much better job of it than any 'supersonic sensor shaker' ever could.
>

At $10 per specialized q-tip, it should.
-Rich

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In message <3od6ncF5d8hgU1@individual.net>,
"Pink & Perky sing Moody & Sankey" <pigs@work.com> wrote:

>Cleaning a sensor takes only a minute or so - and only the totally clueless
>would be loathe to perform this simple task themselves, and know that they'd
>made a much better job of it than any 'supersonic sensor shaker' ever could.

I'm not taking your word for this, but I've often wondered how well the
cleaning system works. Loose, dry dust (which is the type I assume the
Olympus system is best at removing) comes off my Canon sensor quite
easily; it's the stickier dust like pollen that takes some work, and I
wonder how well the Olympus system deals with stuff like that.
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John P Sheehy <JPS@no.komm>
><<> <>>< <>>< ><<> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>><

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Tony Polson disingenuates:

> This newsgroup seems to be a repository for some people who make
> dogmatic and usually totally incorrect statements about equipment they
> have never handled, let alone used.

Isn't it awful! I mean, there are even those who claim to have taken a
picture that landed on the cover of a well known magazine, and still
_refuse_ to identify the issue! Can you even believe such nonsense?
How can people do such things and then expect to be taken seriously?

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Rich wrote:

>>Cleaning a sensor takes only a minute or so - and only the totally clueless
>>would be loathe to perform this simple task themselves, and know that they'd
>>made a much better job of it than any 'supersonic sensor shaker' ever could.
>
> At $10 per specialized q-tip, it should.

Earth to Rich: not everyone is as stupid as you.

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In article <11i15ckdnupcie4@corp.supernews.com>, getnews1@dslextreme.com
says...
> > ACR does it, as does Capture One. I can't speak for the others.
>
> Which version of ACR? I'm stuck with 2.4 for awhile. Is it automagical or
> a preference?

I'm running 2.4. It's automagical - it just looks for out of place RAW
values for each pixel.
--
http://www.pbase.com/bcbaird

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"Brian Baird" <no@no.thank.u> wrote in message
news:MPG.1d8bf1f0718c4e02989a29@news.verizon.net...
> In article <11i15ckdnupcie4@corp.supernews.com>, getnews1@dslextreme.com
> says...
> > > ACR does it, as does Capture One. I can't speak for the others.
> >
> > Which version of ACR? I'm stuck with 2.4 for awhile. Is it automagical
or
> > a preference?
>
> I'm running 2.4. It's automagical - it just looks for out of place RAW
> values for each pixel.

Got it. I hadn't paid attention.

Greg

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In article <11i4ecvpsj73u43@corp.supernews.com>, getnews1@dslextreme.com
says...
> > I'm running 2.4. It's automagical - it just looks for out of place RAW
> > values for each pixel.
>
> Got it. I hadn't paid attention.

They don't advertise the feature. Honestly, I didn't know until I
stumbled across an image I had processed with Canon's RAW software and
re-did it using ACR.
--
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