New PC Build (revised)

[ZombyEcks]

Hello Again,

Well since I was last on I have changed things like the cpu, motherboard, and psu. and also developed somewhat of a budget.($1500-$1700) these are now the specs of my build. please leave constructive criticism and comments as well as suggested improvements to performance and reliability of the products price is not a major concern so please keep those comparisons to a minimum thank you p.s. also please suggest psu(power plentiful for future sli ) and a better heatsink (quieter not to much more expensive i.e. under $100) thank you


CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.99 @ Microcenter)

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($32.60 @ Amazon)

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-D3H ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($137.86 @ Newegg)

Memory: Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($54.99 @ Newegg)

Storage: Crucial M4 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($206.99 @ Adorama)
Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive($89.99 @Amazon)

Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 660 Ti 2GB Video Card ($283.98 @ Newegg)

Case: NZXT Phantom (White) ATX Full Tower Case ($119.99 @ Amazon)

Optical Drive: Asus BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer ($56.23 @ Amazon)

Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium Full (32/64-bit) ($162.24 @ Amazon)

Keyboard: Microsoft SIDEWINDER X4 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($44.99 @ Newegg)

Mouse: Razer DeathAdder Wired Optical Mouse ($48.99 @ Mac Mall)

Total: $1468.84

 

[TheBigTroll]

since the price has shuffled around (i believe i helped you before), i will change some components
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/AJnt


pcpartpicker is messed right now so some components will be listed seperately

ram. 16gb because its cheap and might as well get more ram
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=76779&promoid=1292

motherboard can be priced matched for free shipping
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=71114

mice. id personally get the black edition since it has a much better finish but the regular is cheaper
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=46088&promoid=1398

in my build i have

-a much better SSD for cheaper
-if you would like 2tb, go ahead
-more ram. faster ram is useless
-a better case. id say the best for the money.
-you dont need full windows
-way better keyboard
-i assume you can actually go to a brick and mortar microcenter to get the i7, otherwise get a i5

 

[ZombyEcks]

ok #1 what exactly makes the SSD better because I have heard the crucial is very dependable from a very trusted source I understand its cheaper but what makes it cheaper and what makes it better?
#2 What makes it a Better case is that fact or opinion
#3 I do need full windows because work does need to be done on this computer as well i.e. [windows home and student]
#4 why not a i7 if I can afford?
I am at a point in my life where I can afford to start a new hobby and money is not an object really the "budget" is for my wife and daughters benefit but really i am spoiling myself becuz i never do.....basically im trying to get the best bang for my buck but im not gonna loose my mind if I fynd a ssd for 40 bux cheaper after I buy im not pinching pennys in a nutshell im askin if my build will handle games lyk bf3,crysis 3, eve, dust514 and nxt gen games for at least a year, year and a half........ at max settings b4 I upgrade to adding another gpu or second display but lyk I said that is a way down the road .....i am an average to above average gamer and making a jump to pc's i just wnna make sure that the build i have is not hindering me in anyway and is dependable mainly why i am staying away from amd asus asrock from everything i heard they are good but gigabyte is somewhat more dependable but that just myte be opinion. Thank you for your advice

 

[ZombyEcks]

p.s. nope second post and u didn't comment on first so i have never received ur help but thank you again

 

[TheBigTroll]

yes crucial is very reliable and trustable, but so is plextor. they originally made dvd burners but they moved to SSDs. both of the SSDs use marvel controllers (which are what makes it reliable overall) but the plextor uses a newer and faster version.

its both opinion and fact. it has more silence, more cabling room (space between side panel and motherboard tray wise), and is cheaper. some people like flashy cases, but i dont like them.

what are the programs that you have that are specifically 32 bit? if there are none, get regular OEM windows. its cheaper because you only pay for the windows edition you need (32 bit or 64bit) all new programs are 64bit. also note you cannot use more than 4gb of ram on a 32 bit windows

because it wouldnt benefit gaming performance.

its your money. im just saying that there are better stuff for cheaper. i can guarantee it wont max out bf4 with a single gtx 670. nothing currently will. you cannot future proof. it always does not work. i can tell you it will still perform well, but no gurarantees it will max out

asus is a better company overall in the higher end market (slightly above the general consumer). gigabyte is nice but right now, the Lk board is 30 bucks cheaper, so id get that instead. it has just enough features that you need. if the gigabyte was the same price, i would have picked that up instead, but it isnt

 

[devilofdeaths]

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/AK8q if you just game you don't need an i7 since you are an"an average to above average gamer"also tyhe 7950 will be able to do just about anything you ask it to do(except crysis 3 at max settings) but only a 690 can do that at playable fps

 

[TheBigTroll]

with some new drivers, crysis 3 should be much faster than it is now

 

[devilofdeaths]

with some new drivers, crysis 3 should be much faster than it is now

true it is just a beta.did you play planetside 2 in early beta,a 670 could only go to medium settings at 1080p just to get above 40 fps

 

[Goodeggray]

Microcenter cpu prices are only good for in store pickup, but they also offer great bundle prices with mobo. If they mail order at those prices I'm sure all the other dealers would be up in arms.

 

[TheBigTroll]

nah. dont play many betas. the one i tried was bf3 beta. kept falling under the map (frostbite 2 engine at its best) and destroying everyone

 

[JackNaylorPE]

Heat Sink:

$75 budget: 1) Phanteks 2) Thermalright Silver Arrow 3) Noc DH-14
Why.....5 year warranty on the phanteks, waaaay better aesthetics, and slightly better thermally in most tests
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835709001
http://www.vortez.net/articles_pages/phanteks_ph_tc14pe_cpu_cooler_review,14.html
http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=674&Itemid=62&limit=1&limitstart=4

$50 budget: 1) Hyper 612 PWM 2) Scythe Mugen 3
loses 5C to the ones above
http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=797&Itemid=62&limit=1&limitstart=4

$25 Budget - Hyper 212 (your original pick)

CPU:

Take the i-7 if ya fgoing ti eb doing CAD, video editing, huge databases or anything else that use hyperthreading....for office apps and gaming the i5 will do just as well.

MoBo:

I don't see a $1500 build w/o a possible SLI / CF upgrade

$120 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131837

SSD:

M4 is a Tier 3 ....cant see $207 for Tier 3 when Tier 1 are less money

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ssd-recommendation-benchmark,3269-6.html

Tier 1
240 GB second-gen SandForce SSDs with Toggle NAND (Mushkin Chronos Deluxe, Patriot Wildfire, OCZ Vertex 3 Max IOPS, OWC Mercury Extreme Pro 6G, Corsair Force GS)
Samsung 840 250 GB
Samsung 830 SSD 256 GB
Plextor M3 Pro 128 GB/256 GB
OCZ Vertex 4 512/256 GB
OCZ Vector 512/256 GB
Samsung 840 Pro 128 GB/256 GB

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226226
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147186

HD:

Seagate Bararcuda XT - great drive
Seagate Bararcuda - not so much

Case:

Corsair 500R at sick $80 price in white
http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=767&Itemid=61&limit=1&limitstart=5
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139010
$120 - $20 MIR - $20 off w/ promo code 72SALE43, ends 1/31

I'd put a HX750 in there to provide adequate power to twin overclocked GFX cards....if the budget hits too hard, then the Tx750

 

[TheBigTroll]

id always get a d14 over a silver arrow. better fan mountings and will support a much larger variety of ram (dominator without heat fins)

 

[djangoringo]

Get the i5 : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116504

Get this cooler, it's a good one, not that much expensive : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835709019

Get cheaper ram : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148662

Get the MSI PE 660 ti : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127697

For a psu : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151095

Get the windows 7 home premium 64 bits, it's all you're going to need.
The rest of the stuff keep it, if you really need the bluray drive, if not get a dvd drive.

 

[ZombyEcks]

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/AK8q if you just game you don't need an i7 since you are an"an average to above average gamer"also tyhe 7950 will be able to do just about anything you ask it to do(except crysis 3 at max settings) but only a 690 can do that at playable fps

again i am not just gaming on this computer it needs to be able to do work too...video editing/ music production so sticking with the i7 to many good reviews to decide otherwise and i will look into the video card thank you

 

[djangoringo]

If you're into editing grab a dual channel kit of 16GB ram, like this one : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231558

Also for that, nvidia cards are better, so a 660 ti suits you.

 

[ZombyEcks]

yes crucial is very reliable and trustable, but so is plextor. they originally made dvd burners but they moved to SSDs. both of the SSDs use marvel controllers (which are what makes it reliable overall) but the plextor uses a newer and faster version.

its both opinion and fact. it has more silence, more cabling room (space between side panel and motherboard tray wise), and is cheaper. some people like flashy cases, but i dont like them.

what are the programs that you have that are specifically 32 bit? if there are none, get regular OEM windows. its cheaper because you only pay for the windows edition you need (32 bit or 64bit) all new programs are 64bit. also note you cannot use more than 4gb of ram on a 32 bit windows

because it wouldnt benefit gaming performance.

its your money. im just saying that there are better stuff for cheaper. i can guarantee it wont max out bf4 with a single gtx 670. nothing currently will. you cannot future proof. it always does not work. i can tell you it will still perform well, but no gurarantees it will max out

asus is a better company overall in the higher end market (slightly above the general consumer). gigabyte is nice but right now, the Lk board is 30 bucks cheaper, so id get that instead. it has just enough features that you need. if the gigabyte was the same price, i would have picked that up instead, but it isnt

Thanx for the advice but as far as my research has takin me There are not a lot better for cheaper at all but that's just what i read and was told from pretty trusted sources....its all about knowing how to optimize......but i gotta say speeds have come a LONG way since i played star craft for the first time.......0_0 hahaha

 

[ZombyEcks]

If you're into editing grab a dual channel kit of 16GB ram, like this one : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231558

Also for that, nvidia cards are better, so a 660 ti suits you.

So The GTX 660ti is the ryte choice?....because i was thinking about taking a step or to up...... couldn't hurt to much lyk my original post said i wanna spoil myself

 

[djangoringo]

The 660 ti is a good card, especially the 660 MSI PE : http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_660_Ti_Power_Edition/33.html

It's a beast for overclocking : http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_660_Ti_Power_Edition/31.html

 

[TheBigTroll]

Thanx for the advice but as far as my research has takin me There are not a lot better for cheaper at all but that's just what i read and was told from pretty trusted sources....its all about knowing how to optimize......but i gotta say speeds have come a LONG way since i played star craft for the first time.......0_0 hahaha

we know what we are talking about. we do way more reading than anyone who just builds a rig for themselves since we configure a ton of rigs for every budget

SSD comparision if you dont believe me
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/355?vs=631

 

[TheBigTroll]

the 670 is a better choice if you want to play at higher settings. given all power editions are now locked in voltage, overclocking is limited to a certain degree

 

[ZombyEcks]

the 670 is a better choice if you want to play at higher settings. given all power editions are now locked in voltage, overclocking is limited to a certain degree

yea I just going with 690 expensive but oh well thanks again for the advice it helped a lot always like to hear other opinions on my builds...

 

[TheBigTroll]

there isnt much point of a 690 as well. dont get one

 

[djangoringo]

unless you're into a triple monitor setup or 1440p monitor, i don't see the reason for a 690 gtx, the 660 ti is fine for the price, in terms of editing performance vs 670 gtx is about the same, for gaming, though, the 670 gtx is better, so if you want a 670 gtx, get one of those : asus dcii, msi pe, gigabyte windforce 2/3, evga ftw and signature 2.

 

[ZombyEcks]

we know what we are talking about. we do way more reading than anyone who just builds a rig for themselves since we configure a ton of rigs for every budget

SSD comparision if you dont believe me
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/355?vs=631

we?? sorry but this isn't my first build kid its just the first for myself .......its not that I don't believe you its that a buddy of myne has owned a business in computer repair for 35 years 25 of those years we lived next door to each other and was one of my closest friends he has helped me configure this pc and im sorry not saying u don't know what your doing i would just rather take the advice of someone who has been doing this longer than you have been alive according to ur profile not sure if that's real but i simply wanted a professional unbias opinion fyi i changed the ssd with ur first suggestion but in all you did not suggest anything that would be better except another ssd by the way thank you i just didn't see anything in your build that would honestly improve my build in anyway except the ssd Thank you any way ur opinions were greatly appreciated

 

[ZombyEcks]

unless you're into a triple monitor setup or 1440p monitor, i don't see the reason for a 690 gtx, the 660 ti is fine for the price, in terms of editing performance vs 670 gtx is about the same, for gaming, though, the 670 gtx is better, so if you want a 670 gtx, get one of those : asus dcii, msi pe, gigabyte windforce 2/3, evga ftw and signature 2.

Yea i have the money so y not? was gonna go with the 670 but oh well as i have run my business and my lyf "it is better to have and not need then need and not have" thank you for the advice