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January 31, 2013 10:20:15 PM

Hey guys,

This is my first PC build for myself I suppose and I just wanted some feedback on what i've chosen. I'm not a real hard core gamer but do enjoy the occasional game. I will be running a lot of CAD and engineering simulation software which is why I decided on the i7 and I've heard the Asus mobo is stable and amazing for over clocking. I do hope this PC is future proof and will last me a looooooong time.

Processor: i7 3770k

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007SZ0EOW/ref=ox_sc_a...

Aftermarket Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper plus 212

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Mobo: Asus P8Z77v Pro

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Ram: Corsair Vengence (2x4gb)

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004QBUL1C/ref=ox_sc_a...

GPU: MSI GTX 660 Ti

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008SBX6GI/ref=ox_sc_a...

SSD: Samsung 840 120GB

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HDD: WD Caviar Black 1TB

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0036Q7MV0/ref=ox_sc_a...

PSU: Corsair enthusiast 650w

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004LB5AZY/ref=ox_sc_a...

Optical drive: Asus 24x DVD

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Case: Antec 1100

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005X3E4YC/ref=ox_sc_a...

Card Reader: Roswill card reader

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Thermal paste: Artic Silver MX2


Is there anything I'm missing in the cables/accessory department? Hopefully everything fits together without compatibility issues. Let me know what you guys think :) 
January 31, 2013 10:42:52 PM

Something like this would be better
the gigabyte boards have better power delivery sections and VRM's
The Xeon E3-1230v2 has better stability and while it can only OC to 4.1ghz it is quite a bit cheaper (Xeon is fully compatible but lacks Intergrated grpahics)
The 7950 IMO offers better bang for buck than the 660ti
Getting a Seagate 2TB is cheaper and faster and if you want stability and reliability you should be looking at RAID setups (waranty is more for WD black though)

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1230 V2 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($233.98 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD5H ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($180.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($46.98 @ Outlet PC)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($99.98 @ Outlet PC)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($94.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($297.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Corsair Enthusiast 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1064.86
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-31 19:51 EST-0500)

Here is a build with a 660ti if you really need CUDA support (AFAIK, CAD supports AMD and Nvidia GPU acceleration)

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1230 V2 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($233.98 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD5H ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($180.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($46.98 @ Outlet PC)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($99.98 @ Outlet PC)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($94.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 660 Ti 2GB Video Card ($273.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Enthusiast 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1040.86
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-31 19:48 EST-0500)

If don't need as much connectivity you can get this board instead

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-motherboard-gaz77...
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January 31, 2013 11:48:15 PM

get this instead
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/AKyZ

prices for us.ncix doesnt seem to list properly on pcpartpicker so i have to go manual

hard drive can be found here
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=66010&promoid=1292

ram is to be found here
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=76779&promoid=1292

psu can be found here
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=59615&promoid=1257

video card can be priced match to save 4 bucks of shipping
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=75201

case is here
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=75051&vpn=FD%2DCA%2DDE...


most boards can easily get you 4.5ghz. when you crank higher is when it starts to matter.

-black drives are a scam. would not bother
-no need for extra thermal paste. the stock stuff on the noctua is way better
-you will need more ram so i put in 16gb
-bigger and way better SSD
-way better case
-same psu but with less wattage. save on unnecessary spending
-i would pick a 660ti over a 7950 given that CUDA can help with some programs like photoshop (if you use that)
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February 1, 2013 2:35:58 PM

Could someone explain why the xeon would be better than the i7? I definitely will not be using ECC or a server mobo and don't mind spending the extra for the i7 if it would improve performance over the long run.

From some googling I kinda get the impression that ansys/solidworks might work better with a xeon but then it goes both ways and there's no definite answer.

The gigabyte board was my first choice but I've heard there are issues with it? Nevertheless probably will go with it now.

Also could someone tell me why the fractal R4 is better than the Antec1100? That's not the impression I got from reading the reviews. Too bad there isn't a heads up comparision...none that I could find anyways.
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February 1, 2013 3:24:51 PM

they are basically the same chips, just that the xeon uses less power, runs cooler, and doesnt not have graphics. its also a lot cheaper and that is the main reason some people who dont overclock go for it

nah. they are the same chips inside, just binned differently for specific tasks

more space between the motherboard tray and the side panel, way more silence, modular hard drive cages, better cable gromments. there wont be a comparision between the 2 given that the fractal is a silent case while the 1100 is gaming and cooling oriented. not that the R4 will run hot though
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February 1, 2013 3:33:36 PM

TheBigTroll said:
they are basically the same chips, just that the xeon uses less power, runs cooler, and doesnt not have graphics. its also a lot cheaper and that is the main reason some people who dont overclock go for it

nah. they are the same chips inside, just binned differently for specific tasks

more space between the motherboard tray and the side panel, way more silence, modular hard drive cages, better cable gromments. there wont be a comparision between the 2 given that the fractal is a silent case while the 1100 is gaming and cooling oriented. not that the R4 will run hot though


What do you think about the fractal arc midi? I love the look of that case! (From pictures obviously :p )

I think I'll go with the xeon. Regarding overclocking, I'm not sure if i'll need to which I assume will mean i won't. But why would you overclock when games are limited by the GPU? Bigger manhood type of deal?
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February 1, 2013 3:53:06 PM

if you are lets say video rendering, overclocking can shave off a few secs to a couple of minutes depending on the size of the video.

the arc midi is basically a non-silent version of the R3. the arc midi R2 was just announced but you would have to wait a while for it
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February 1, 2013 3:59:40 PM

yep if you're willing to overclock past 4.1 the i7 will provide more preformance
The Xeon is just a good chip if you're on a budget
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February 1, 2013 7:02:39 PM

Ok so the fractal arc midi is out of stock in most places. Are there any cases that look similar?
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February 1, 2013 10:42:00 PM

-remove the CPU cooler. xeons already run pretty dam cool with a stock heatsink
-if you need a board with wifi, just go get the z77-v pro. or get something cheap like a z77-v Lk for 109.99 and add a pci wifi card
-the 660ti is cheaper here. its from gigabyte though. performs roughly the same
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=75183&vpn=GV%2DN66TOC%...
-cheaper psu. its the same as the corsair inside
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=59616&vpn=P1650SNLB9&m...
-get the xeon here. it can be price matched so you can save 3 bucks on shipping
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=74987
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February 1, 2013 10:51:40 PM

^ does the OP need wifi?
The heatsink is optional, maybe run it for a while and check out load and OC temps
I had suggested the UD5H for its extra SATA ports, VRM cooling and quality to ensure stability but I agree its better to get a add on card yourself
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