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February 1, 2013 12:17:54 AM

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/y2cT

Right, so I just joined the forums, and I came to ask one simple question... What do you think of my first custom build? Feel free to let me know if there's anything that I should change. So, I want this build to last me 4 years of high settings, and fps. With some occasional upgrades if necessary.

Is there something in my build that I should take a closer look at, and maybe consider? Is my CPU Cooler overkill? Is there a better SSD on the market? Is my PSU overkill? Let me know.

Some things; I will be gaming on a 1920x1080 resolution to begin with, and add an additional 2 monitors at the same resolution after I add a second GPU. I plan on overclocking my CPU to 4GHz at first, and progressively push it further until I am satisfied, as I am pretty nooby at OC'ing I don't want to make it explode right off the bat. I think that's about it. Let me know if you need to know anything else.

What do you think?

Is it all compatible?

Is anything bottlenecked?

Let me know, I appreciate any thoughts, suggestions, or tips. Thank you.

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February 1, 2013 12:33:09 AM

In my opinion, a high end air cooler will give about the same results as a closed loop watercooler, the noctua nh-d14 is cheaper and more quiet, also the z77 sabertooth is overpriced, the asus z77 pro is better and cheaper, a 1TB caviar black is also overpriced, get the caviar blue, get a larger ssd, there's cheaper psus out there as good as that one, like the xfx, if you really want a 680 gtx, get a 2GB one.
The nzxt phantom is a good case, there's no reaso to spend much more for the other one.
My suggestion : http://pcpartpicker.com/p/AL1q
February 1, 2013 1:17:52 AM

I was looking at a NZXT Havik 140 before I saw the kraken. I don't know much about the NH-d14, but from what I've seen the kraken is the best water cooler on the market right now. What makes that motherboard better? The Caviar Black is at a higher price point because it is faster. I don't need a larger ssd. There is no need do downgrade to a 2gb gpu when I plan on doing triple monitors in the future... it actually makes no sense.
I personally like the look of the 820. My personal opinion. Also, the lights are a plus.
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February 1, 2013 1:21:05 AM


CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 612 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($45.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V LE PLUS ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($154.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($94.98 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($157.99 @ Adorama)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($169.99 @ Adorama)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 680 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($484.98 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 680 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($484.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Rosewill THOR V2-W ATX Full Tower Case ($137.67 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair Enthusiast 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $2011.53
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-31 22:20 EST-0500)

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February 1, 2013 1:33:47 AM

LeftForTacos said:
I was looking at a NZXT Havik 140 before I saw the kraken. I don't know much about the NH-d14, but from what I've seen the kraken is the best water cooler on the market right now. What makes that motherboard better? The Caviar Black is at a higher price point because it is faster. I don't need a larger ssd. There is no need do downgrade to a 2gb gpu when I plan on doing triple monitors in the future... it actually makes no sense.
I personally like the look of the 820. My personal opinion. Also, the lights are a plus.


Is it for triple monitor ?
There's a cheap galaxy 680 gtx 4GB, it's as good as the asus, the noctua is better than the havik, the noctua nh-d14 has about the same performance as the kraken, it's cheaper and more quiet, no leaks.
The asus z77 pro has wifi, the sabertooth doesn't, the pro has more power phases 12 vs 8 of the sabertooth, and it's cheaper.
The differences in speeds of the hdd is minimal, what counts is to have a good ssd.
The phantom is cheaper, that's why i said it, and has the space for all that you'll need.
My updated suggestion : http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ALFa

You can almost fit in there another 680 gtx lol.
February 1, 2013 1:34:52 AM

I'm not very familiar with cooler master, so I'll have to look into these.
16GB is a bit much for gaming, I doubt I'll ever use it.
2TB's would be nice, actually.
That 680 looks pretty similar to the one I've chosen after a quick look on Newegg's listed specs. I'll look into some more, though.
How does the Samsung 840 and 840 pro compare to the Kingston HyperX 3k?
I personally like the Phantom 820 better, and I don't think I'll switch it out. I like the look of it too much.
Will 650W power that? Seems a bit low. Also it's non-modular. That's a big no-no for me.
I don't really care about the optical drive.
February 1, 2013 1:47:17 AM

djangoringo said:
Is it for triple monitor ?
There's a cheap galaxy 680 gtx 4GB, it's as good as the asus, the noctua is better than the havik, the noctua nh-d14 has about the same performance as the kraken, it's cheaper and more quiet, no leaks.
The asus z77 pro has wifi, the sabertooth doesn't, the pro has more power phases 12 vs 8 of the sabertooth, and it's cheaper.
The differences in speeds of the hdd is minimal, what counts is to have a good ssd.
The phantom is cheaper, that's why i said it, and has the space for all that you'll need.
My updated suggestion : http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ALFa

You can almost fit in there another 680 gtx lol.

Yeah, I plan on upgrading to 3 monitors eventaully.
I've been recommended the noctua a few times, so I may have to look into it some more, I guess.
I don't care for built in wifi, to be honest. I'll be plugging this build into a router, so that's not something to worry about. What is the advantage of more power phases?
The HDD will be running all of my games, so I would prefer them to launch quickly. Also, can you explain some more about the SSD you have in your pcpartpicker?
Yeah, I'm aware that the Phantom is cheaper, but like I said I prefer the 820. I don't mind spending an extra $100 on the 820. It's what the PC will look like, and I want it to look good. Just my preference.

And fitting in another 680 would be beneficial, because as I said in the original post, I will be doing just that.
February 1, 2013 1:53:24 AM

More power phases means less load per channel, and lower heat.
See this : http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Everything-You-N...

All i'm saying is that the sabertooth is overpriced, it has no features that justifies the price, the thermal armor is useless, it doesn't help cooling the motherboard, it will only collect more dust, it's just marketing.
The plextor ssd is as good as the kingston but it's cheaper, put the games on a ssd, no point in putting in a hdd, that's why i suggested a larger ssd for the games.
The case is your choice, everyone has is preference.
February 1, 2013 2:07:22 AM

Hmm... will the motherboard you suggested be compatible with all the parts on my original post? ( If I were to only change the mobo, would it be compatible? ) Not saying that I will, I just want to know. I will of course look this up later on my own, but I don't have time as of right now. But thanks for letting me know this, I will look around for alternative motherboards.

I have a lot of games. I cannot put them all on a SSD, I wouldn't be able to afford an SSD large enough to hold them all. I can install a few and switch them out when I'm done playing with them. And I think that would work fine on a 120GB, am I wrong? The only other thing on there would be Windows 7, and maybe a few programs such as Skype.

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February 1, 2013 2:15:01 AM

Just a few games can fill pretty easily a 128GB ssd, so it's better to spend more on a larger ssd instead of the hdd, any Z77 motherboard with SLI support is compatible with your intentions, the asus z77 pro is perfectly compatible.
This one is cheap and with 256GB : http://pcpartpicker.com/part/plextor-internal-hard-driv...
February 1, 2013 2:21:16 AM

Huh, This is just a thought, but I may go with it. I could swap out the kraken for the nh-d14. And with that money I would buy something similar to this SSD http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168.... It wouldn't completley even out, infact it's about $80, so I guess I may need to think more into it.
February 1, 2013 2:52:47 AM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Seasonic 860W platinum power supply 100% modular. I have had good luck with my Seasonic 850W gold.

For SSDs that crucial 256 or a Samsung 840 pro 256 will work. The Samsung is about $50-$70 more though.

Don't get the tall corsair ram, get the low profile stuff instead so you don't have to worry about clearances.
this will work
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

If you do go with the Noctua NH-D14 cooler 44mm is as high of ram as you should go with. Corsair has the height of the ram on their website.
http://www.noctua.at/main.php?show=faqs&step=2&products...

+1 on the Sabertooth z77 armor being silly and serving no function.

Also on the vendors to buy from, you might try NCIX, they sell international now. I have found them to have better prices on some things.

Hope this helps.
February 1, 2013 3:00:34 AM

8GB is plenty, no need for 16GB, the crucial ram is at a good price and it's low profile, this one has a discount combo with the cpu : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Here's a review of the ram : http://www.pureoverclock.com/Review-detail/crucial-ball...


The XFX 850w XXX Edition is modular and also made by seasonic, it's not platinum, but it's not worth it paying that much for a platinum psu, it more than enough for two 680 gtx and all the other stuff.
It's at 102.75$ after rebate on amazon : http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0050751YS/
February 1, 2013 4:27:21 AM

fixer762 said:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Seasonic 860W platinum power supply 100% modular. I have had good luck with my Seasonic 850W gold.

For SSDs that crucial 256 or a Samsung 840 pro 256 will work. The Samsung is about $50-$70 more though.

Don't get the tall corsair ram, get the low profile stuff instead so you don't have to worry about clearances.
this will work
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

If you do go with the Noctua NH-D14 cooler 44mm is as high of ram as you should go with. Corsair has the height of the ram on their website.
http://www.noctua.at/main.php?show=faqs&step=2&products...

+1 on the Sabertooth z77 armor being silly and serving no function.

Also on the vendors to buy from, you might try NCIX, they sell international now. I have found them to have better prices on some things.

Hope this helps.

Would the PSU I have in the Original Post work just fine?
I haven't quite decided on the SSD, I may go with the Samsung 840 pro, or stick to the Kingston HyperX 3k... Still haven't decided.
I was looking for the low profile ram, thanks dude.
Heh, What motherboard would you recommend?
For the vendors, I might just go with Newegg, or Amazon. Well, actually, would you trust Amazon with computer parts? It may be a pain to return broken parts. I dunno.
Thanks
February 1, 2013 3:39:23 PM

LeftForTacos said:
Would the PSU I have in the Original Post work just fine?
I haven't quite decided on the SSD, I may go with the Samsung 840 pro, or stick to the Kingston HyperX 3k... Still haven't decided.
I was looking for the low profile ram, thanks dude.
Heh, What motherboard would you recommend?
For the vendors, I might just go with Newegg, or Amazon. Well, actually, would you trust Amazon with computer parts? It may be a pain to return broken parts. I dunno.
Thanks



Yes the power supply in your post will be just fine. In fact Seasonic made the AX 850 for Corsair. So you are getting the same thing at the gold level. I just suggested the Seasonic platinum because at the moment it is a really good power supply for the money and its more efficient and may save you on your electrical bill.

The Samsung 840 pro 256gb has a 5 year warranty vs. the Kingston HyperX 3k's 3 year warranty. And the Samsung tops most benchmarks on the websites I have been to at the moment.
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/ssd-recommendation-benchm...

review of the 840 pro, it tops the charts also.
512gb http://thessdreview.com/our-reviews/samsung-840-pro-512...



I would recommend an AsRock board. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
This one has 10 sata ports and 16+8 power phase.

I just stated looking at them last night and it seems they have better heat sinks with more surface area vs an Asus or Gigabyte board on their southbridges and other parts of their motherboards. Also they have more power phases which mean higher overclocks and stability. From what I understand AsRock used to be part of Asus and then they went separate ways.

I would not order electronics from Amazon, I had bad luck with a large Dvd collection I ordered from them. Your mileage may vary though. I have had good luck with NCIX ( Canadian company, ships international now), Newegg, and Tiger Direct.

February 1, 2013 9:13:55 PM

For the SSD, I think I am going to go with the Kingston HyperX 3K 240GB. 240GBs will be more than enough, and I can stick to Kingston. The Samsung 840 and 840 pros are just too expensive for me. What do you guys think?

Also, I found another CPU Cooler, the NZXT Havik 140. How does it compare to the NHD-14? I've seen a few comparisms and the Havik won in the majority of the times.
February 2, 2013 5:40:52 PM

So, I changed a few things. Mainly the GPU. I decided that by the time I'll be able to afford an additional 680, the next generation of cards will be released. Because of this, I chose the EVGA 670 2GB Version. It will make games look great on my 1920x1080 monitor for a few months until I replace it with whatever nvidia releases for their next gen cards. What do you guys think? Here's the updated pcpartpicker: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/B3eC
February 2, 2013 5:56:32 PM

Why the sabertooth ?
It's just an overpriced board, with a thermal armor that's just marketing, just get asrock extreme 6, i'd get a better 670 gtx, and the plextor m5s is cheaper than the kingston, as reliable as the kingston.
The caviar blue 1TB is suffice, the xfx 850 is cheaper.
Here's the list : http://pcpartpicker.com/p/B3s1
February 2, 2013 6:15:03 PM

The two 670's that you and I have selected are virtually the exact same. Apart from one difference that is very small. Your 670 has a slightly... slightly faster core clock. Your Core clock is 1019MHz where as mine is 915MHz. Check out the two specs posted on Newegg for yourself. They are practically the same thing.

I prefer the kingston... I dunno, just a preference.

The WD Black out preforms the Blue in most tests that I've seen. And it's just a $20 difference, so I have no problem putting down an extra $20 for better preformance, but hey, that's just me.

Also, the xfx 850 is $5 cheaper than the HX850 by Corsair. That $5 is not a huge price difference what so ever. I don't think I'd bbe willing to swap that out for such a small difference. Besides, price isn't everything.

February 2, 2013 6:24:05 PM

Well the xfx has a rebate, which goes for 103$, and has more amps, so the hx850 is 160$, the xfx is 122$ in amazon without rebate.
The HX850 is now made by channel well, not by seasonic, it has inferior components, meaning the xfx is cheaper and better.
The msi pe has a better cooling system, triple voltage, overall it's a better card.
The plextor m5s is still cheaper, then again, it's your choice, it doesn't bother me.
The same for hdd.
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