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February 2, 2013 5:04:41 PM

I am putting together a new build for around $1500 not including monitor or OS.

Here's what I have come up with:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($80.73 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V PRO ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($199.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 830 Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($197.28 @ TigerDirect)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($369.99 @ Microcenter)
Case: Silverstone SST-RV03B-WA ATX Full Tower Case ($170.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Kingwin Lazer Platinum 750W 80 PLUS Platinum Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1438.94
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-02-04 08:55 EST-0500)

NOTE: I can get the case at amazon.com for $144 and free shipping, partpicker doesn't have it for some reason.

Right now I am mostly playing Star Wars the Old Republic.
I know this is overkill for SWTOR, but I would like to play Far Cry 3 (at or near max settings) and I intend for this build to last 4-5 years.

I will be playing on one 1920 x 1080 monitor.

This is my second build.

I will likely play around with OCing the CPU, which I am new to.

I have done a large amount of research and many of these parts I know I want, but others I could still be swayed on.
Regardless, all opinions are welcome.

The main goal of this build is to get a fairly high end system at a good value, i.e. I don't want to pay the premium that comes with the latest and greatest parts.

Thanks in advance.

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February 2, 2013 6:53:11 PM

Something like this will own all games you want to play on max.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($80.73 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($129.99 @ Microcenter)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial M4 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($192.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($99.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition 3GB Video Card ($424.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 500R White ATX Mid Tower Case ($101.93 @ Mac Connection)
Power Supply: Corsair Enthusiast 850W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($134.99 @ Best Buy)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS90 DVD/CD Writer ($26.59 @ Compuvest)
Total: $1432.16
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-02-02 15:53 EST-0500)
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February 3, 2013 1:32:34 PM

I was kinda looking for opinions/criticism of my build instead of a suggested build.

I see that many of the parts in the build you listed are the same as mine.

Perhaps you could elaborate on the parts you replaced.
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February 3, 2013 1:42:06 PM

this is one of bad feedback from newegg about msi 670 PE

Cons: One of the tech review sites exposed that MSI was doing something funky with the voltage that isn't recommended in order to get better performance. Something different than an overclock. If I just got a bad card, I would think it would not have lasted the 30 days that it did. So I do suspect it may be related to whatever MSI did to tweak this card that is outside of what Nvidia thinks is exceptable.

i dont have this card, but i have heard a lot about the problem above
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February 3, 2013 2:14:36 PM

the msi cards dont have unlocked voltage anymore. nvidia kinda killed that feature. i know bigcyco has 2 of those PE cards at 1400 mhz or something ridiculous. if you dont mess with the voltage, its fine.

id get this
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/BeNH

ram
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=76779&promoid=1292

hard drive
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=66010&promoid=1292

case
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=75050&vpn=FD%2DCA%2DDE...

cooler
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=64540&vpn=NH%2DD14%20S...


-cheaper ram sticks
-much faster SSD (also based on a marvel controller found on the m4, but faster)
-the LK is a better board than the extreme4 in the pwm department
-cooler will not work out of the box. email noctua and they will send you a free 1155 mounting bracket kit. the reason i chose the 2011 edition is because its cheaper and it has pwm fans that the regular does not
-the 670 was cheaper than the 7970 so i got that instead
-the capstone is made by superflower, which is a very good company. has room for SLI 670s
-better case.
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February 3, 2013 6:24:10 PM

Mobo:
ASUS P8Z77-V LK looks promising. Is the only difference between this and the one listed, the number of SATA 6GB, number of USB and number of fan connectors? Or is there something else that I am not able to glean from comparing them on Newegg?

RAM:
Not sure I will be ordering before the sale on those sticks expires. The sticks I have listed have a very good feedback rating at newegg and I am not too concerned about saving $20 here.

SSD:
I originally was going to go with SAMSUNG 830 Series MZ-7PC256B, but it went out of stock at newegg and i thought I could save some money here since I am unlikely to notice minor speed differences. I haven't read much about Plextor in the SSD game and since its cheaper I will look into SSDs more.

Case:
Please elaborate on why you think that is a better case. From what I have read, and I have read alot on this, the Raven 3 (or 2 or Fortress2, ie any 90 degree mobo case) has far better airflow than a standard case, not becuase hot air rises, but because the airflow goes straight over the mobo and out the top.

Cooler:
There are 2 versions of the Noctua NH-D14

http://www.amazon.com/Noctua-NH-D14-SE2011-Heatpipes-Be...

and

http://www.amazon.com/Noctua-Heatpipe-Bearing-Cooler-NH...

The latter is compatible with 1155 out of the box. I read some of the comments to verify this.
Not sure I care if I have a pwm fan since I should be able to run this on low and still get great temps.

PSU:
From my calculations using the extreme PSU Calc, I will never need more than 650w even if I decide to SLI (and I was very generous with adding things that I may add later).
I actually did have the Capstone-650-M pencilled in, but I re-evaluated and decided to go with Seasonic because the appear to be the best brand of PSU, it is also fully modular(minor perk I know), and has Hybrid Silent Fan Control.

HDD and Disc Drive:
I will keep those in mind.
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February 3, 2013 7:37:34 PM

basically what you said. the features that it has is just enough (i mean like exactly enough) to get your build complete

you might as well order those ram sticks. they are about as cheap as they get

yes they will tend to cool better but they do cost a lot more and you definitely dont need that much space. the Lk isnt even full atx width

well the one with the pwm fans is cheaper than the regular at us.ncix so why not? they are the same heatsink, but with different fans and different mounting kits in the box. all you have to do to make it compatable is email noctua

its nicer to run your psu at 50% when your system is under load. the company who makes the capstone is superflower, a company that is equal to seasonic, just not as famous since they dont tend to psu out there superflower branded units
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February 4, 2013 10:37:10 AM

got any parts u prefer amd to intel. also what will this be for besides gaming?

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February 4, 2013 11:51:55 AM

For this range of PC I do not prefer AMD for anything. If I were building a lower budget PC I would probably go with an HD 7850 gpu.

Outside of gaming it will only be used for easy tasks, internet browsing and such.
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February 4, 2013 12:06:22 PM

TheBigTroll said:
basically what you said. the features that it has is just enough (i mean like exactly enough) to get your build complete

you might as well order those ram sticks. they are about as cheap as they get

yes they will tend to cool better but they do cost a lot more and you definitely dont need that much space. the Lk isnt even full atx width

well the one with the pwm fans is cheaper than the regular at us.ncix so why not? they are the same heatsink, but with different fans and different mounting kits in the box. all you have to do to make it compatable is email noctua

its nicer to run your psu at 50% when your system is under load. the company who makes the capstone is superflower, a company that is equal to seasonic, just not as famous since they dont tend to psu out there superflower branded units


After looking at that mobo again I noticed that it only has one PCIe 3.0 slot, should I want to add another gpu in the future, can that be done with one of the cards on a PCIe 2.0?

For the case, it is $43 more for the raven, I am willing to spend that for the upgrade.

You make a good point about the pwm fan, but then I realized that I was toying around with the idea of getting one of these:

http://www.nzxt.com/new/products/fan_control/sentry_lxe

That fan controller only has 3 pin connectors.

I updated my first post with links and updated the PSU and SSD.
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February 4, 2013 8:16:11 PM

it has 2. i checked. i have one

i wouldnt pay that 43 dollars for a small improvment in temps. with the price, i can literally get me another case

really no point of a fan controller. the software on the asus boards are pretty good so that you can adjust fan curves yourself easily

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February 4, 2013 8:18:39 PM

id still get the nh-d14 se2011 for 69.99 and then email noctua for a mounting kit

same ram but way cheaper
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=76779&promoid=1292

id still get that rosewell capstone 750w instead of the platinum unit. the 20 bucks isnt quite worth it if its only 2-3% more efficient
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February 4, 2013 10:14:21 PM

Quote:
This is a way better build.

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/BvgJ
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/BvgJ/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/BvgJ/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.98 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: ASRock B75 PRO3 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($82.55 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LP 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($65.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial M4 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($107.95 @ Mac Connection)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($73.49 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($363.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Xion XON-180 ATX Mid Tower Case ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Cooler Master GX 650W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($78.99 @ Mwave)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($16.98 @ Outlet PC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $1159.87
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-02-04 18:29 EST-0500)


You have suggested a completely different build and you give no explanation as to why it is better.
It is much more helpful if you explain you reasoning for each part much like what TheBigTroll has done.
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February 4, 2013 10:34:12 PM

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Bwg7
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Bwg7/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Bwg7/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Xigmatek Dark Knight II SD1283 Night Hawk Edition 89.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($129.99 @ Microcenter)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LP 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($65.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Mushkin Chronos Deluxe 240GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($184.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($349.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Silverstone SST-RV03B-WA ATX Full Tower Case ($170.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Rosewill Capstone 750W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($94.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($16.98 @ Outlet PC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $1398.85
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-02-04 19:34 EST-0500)

revised faster build :) 

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February 4, 2013 11:31:48 PM

momar33 said:
You have suggested a completely different build and you give no explanation as to why it is better.
It is much more helpful if you explain you reasoning for each part much like what TheBigTroll has done.


i wouldnt exactly trust his build. heres whats wrong with it

-i7 3770k with a board that cant overclock makes no sense
-low quality psu (like very low quality)
-really low quality case
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February 5, 2013 12:00:09 AM

whats wrong with my build?

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February 5, 2013 12:04:02 AM

not yours, michaels

yours is almost fine, except that the ram is actually 82 bucks and the plextor m5s (which is a lot faster) is cheaper
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February 5, 2013 12:07:20 AM

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Bxtw
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Bxtw/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Bxtw/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Xigmatek Dark Knight II SD1283 Night Hawk Edition 89.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($129.99 @ Microcenter)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LP 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($65.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.98 @ Outlet PC)
Storage: Plextor M5S Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($169.99 @ Microcenter)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($349.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Silverstone SST-RV03B-WA ATX Full Tower Case ($170.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Rosewill Capstone 750W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($94.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($16.98 @ Outlet PC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $1383.85
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-02-04 21:07 EST-0500)

there. and rams 65:) 

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February 5, 2013 12:13:16 AM

they must of changed it cuz today was a promotion,

weird.

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Bxz3
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Bxz3/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Bxz3/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Xigmatek Dark Knight II SD1283 Night Hawk Edition 89.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($129.99 @ Microcenter)
Memory: GeIL EVO Veloce Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($79.98 @ Outlet PC)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.98 @ Outlet PC)
Storage: Plextor M5S Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($169.99 @ Microcenter)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($349.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Silverstone SST-RV03B-WA ATX Full Tower Case ($170.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Rosewill Capstone 750W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($94.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($16.98 @ Outlet PC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $1397.84
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-02-04 21:13 EST-0500)

Base Total: $1455.65
Mail-in Rebates: -$45.00
Shipping: $20.99
Total: $1431.64

:) 

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February 5, 2013 12:18:15 AM

viper 3 ram is 68 bucks at us.ncix
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February 5, 2013 12:19:33 AM

doesnt show up on the radar screen tho.

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February 5, 2013 12:30:12 AM

meh, thats still cas 10. i recommanded cas 10. for a bit more its worth it tbh.

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February 5, 2013 12:33:25 AM

prob is that lower cas almost makes no difference
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February 5, 2013 12:35:51 AM

theres a difference from cas 7 to cas 11 thats for shur. but prob not from 9 to 10 ur right.

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/BxSw
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/BxSw/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/BxSw/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Xigmatek Dark Knight II SD1283 Night Hawk Edition 89.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($129.99 @ Microcenter)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.98 @ Outlet PC)
Storage: Plextor M5S Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($169.99 @ Microcenter)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($349.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Silverstone SST-RV03B-WA ATX Full Tower Case ($170.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Rosewill Capstone 750W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($94.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($16.98 @ Outlet PC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Other: 16 gig kit of patrio viper 3 68$ ($68.00)
Total: $1385.86
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-02-04 21:35 EST-0500)

final build

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February 6, 2013 5:02:34 PM

Well I was going to get the Viper 3 RAM you suggested, but the shipping is $8.
I think I am going to wait a few days to see if Amazon.com gets anymore of the Corsair Vegeance RAM back in stock. I have prime so free 2 day shipping.

http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-1600MHz-Desktop...


After much research I think I will go with the Asrock Extreme4, since I plan on getting the Fan Controller, the pwm capabilities will not be missed.
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February 6, 2013 6:42:26 PM

shipping is free. go order another part and it will be
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February 6, 2013 8:14:37 PM

yup :) 

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February 18, 2013 11:48:35 AM

Best answer selected by momar33.
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