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February 3, 2013 5:51:01 AM

I am new to gaming PC builds, so to me this sounds pretty powerful. Suggestions will be awesome.

Here's what I have planned:

MSI 760GM-E51 (FX) AMD Micro ATX Motherboard = $63 from Newegg
-AM3+ CPU slot (125W CPU support)
-four 240 pin DDR3 800/1066/1333 RAM slots
-ATI Radeon 3000 on-board graphics
-on-board HDMI, DVI and VGA display ports
-32GB max supported RAM

AMD FX-4100 Zambezi Quad Core Processor = $105 from Newegg
-AM3+ socket
-3.6GHz (3.8GHz turbo)
-95W processor
-2 x 2MB L2 cache
-8MB L3 cache
-64 bit supported
-heat sink and fan are included (according to ad)

Force3D AMD ATI Radeon HD 6450 graphics card = $60 from Amazon
-2GB DDR3 video memory
-HDMI, DVI, and VGA display connectors
-PCI-E 2.0 x16
-HD 1080p supported
-supports dual monitor set up

Cool Power Gamer Series CP-G880 power supply = $44 from Amazon
-20+4 main power connector
-w/ SATA, PCIe, and dual +12V rails
-blue LED fan
-880W max output

Corsair XMS3 8GB RAM = $42 from Amazon
-two 4GB sticks
-DDR3 1333MHz
-240 pins/stick



And I'm wondering what to run OS wise: WinXP, Win7 or Win8? (NOTE: I hate Vista)

This build will cost me 314 USD without a chassis or OS (w/o shipping). I'm still looking into chassis (bodies) and which OS to run.

What chassis fits Micro ATX boards and looks pretty kick-a$$ (if I can find one cheap enough) or I could settle for a simple one if it means not paying an arm and a leg.

I have about $600 to play with, so would this be a good build for my budget? (I can afford an OS later or try to get one to work from TPB).

(this is the kind of chassis I would like to have if I can find one for cheap: http://cdn.ubergizmo.com/photos/2010/7/nzxt-phantom.jpg)

I was going to opt out for the AMD FX-8150 Zambezi 3.6GHz 8-core processor, but I don't really need the extra 4 cores, right? (plus it saves me money)

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February 3, 2013 5:58:37 AM

That chassis (in the example link) is the NZXT Phantom 410 Mid-Tower. It is compatible with ATX, Micro ATX, and Mini ITX motherboards, and it only costs $100 (USD)! I will probably go with that!


What's the difference between a mid and a full tower?
February 3, 2013 6:12:02 AM

Full Tower Rosewill BLACKHAWK-ULTRA Gaming Super Tower Computer Case, support up to HPTX, come with Eight Fans,Top HDD docking -
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Mid Tower COOLER MASTER CM Storm Scout 2 SGC-2100-KWN1 All Midnight Black Appearance: Polymer, Coated Steel Mesh and Body ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

My personal out look between a Full Tower & a Mid Tower is, cable management, air flow, Upgrade space, etc.

I personally Love Full ATX Towers because of the amount of Fans (airflow) that I can add, The cable management is really good, I can add alot of eye candy without taking up much space, some Full towers can hold 5-11 HDD's, plus they can hold the larger mother boards.

It's really based on personal preference on which is better.

Oh the sheer size of the case too : D
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To OP: What are you looking to do with the rig? Gaming, general use, video editing, image editing?
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February 3, 2013 6:30:41 AM

Something like this will give good performance for value as well as be pretty stable and leave some money for the OS
If you want something more upgrable, spend 40+ for bigger PSU and double mb price for mb (but this boardis good enough if not overlcocking or corssfiring)

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Pentium G2120 3.1GHz Dual-Core Processor ($77.98 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: Biostar H77MU3 Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($59.99 @ Microcenter)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($44.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Toshiba 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($89.99 @ Microcenter)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon HD 7850 2GB Video Card ($179.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Zalman Z11 Plus HF1 ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($16.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $544.89
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-02-03 03:28 EST-0500)
February 3, 2013 7:01:13 AM
February 3, 2013 9:05:46 AM

To be clear:
The CPU and Graphics card are the main parts that make games run. You chose an HD6450 graphics card which is NOT a gaming card at all.

Stickmansam's build appears to be pretty good overall.

I would make the following changes which will add a little cost:

Motherboard:
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-h77pro4...
Link:
http://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/H77%20Pro4MVP/
Why? The motherboard is the foundation of the PC. I think this Asrock board would likely be more reliable. It has better reviews.

Case:
Corsair 200R
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-case-200r

PSU:
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/antec-power-supply-neoeco5...

Why? I bought the CX430 and my fan is noisy. I'm not the only one. This PSU has one 6-pin and one 8-pin (6 + 2) for the graphics card. The HD7850 recommended requires just the 6-pin.

CPU info:
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/gaming-cpu-review-overclo...
*It's actually quite difficult to build an optimal $600 gaming system. Should you spend more on the CPU and less on the graphics? I thought about the i3-2120 or FX-4100 but then I had to get a cheaper graphics card. It's also going to vary by the game... Sigh.

I DEFINITELY think it's worth looking at the FX-4100 CPU and an ATX AM3+ motherboard like THIS ONE:
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-motherboard-m5a97ler2...

**Be sure to verify all the parts fit, but I think you're good.**

Summary:
- Corsair 200R case
- Antec 520C PSU
- *recommend considering FX-4100 and the Asus AM3+ motherboard linked
- other
- No BUDGET for Windows listed. Hope that wasn't included in the budget as making a $500 gaming PC is almost impossible. Recommend Windows 8 64-bit OEM (about $85) and Start8 (bypasses the new StartScreen and brings back the Start Menu.)
February 3, 2013 9:18:51 AM

what are you using this computer for?
February 3, 2013 5:51:29 PM

^^
Prefer the g2120 over the 4100 since the 4100 is last gen (the g2120 is ivy and cheaper
So comparing to the FX is unfair (in gaming the g2120 should be close to the i3 3220 in gaming performance (mostly dual threaded games))

At least the 4130(it is actually a vishera despite its model number)

Good suggestions about the PSU and MB if OP is willing to go above his budget a bit
February 3, 2013 7:22:47 PM

Well, if my plans work out, my $500 budget could easily turn into a $1000 budget.

I'm going to take into consideration about the Asus board that PhotonBoy recommended, but I would like to stay in the AM3+ socket area. If i do get a higher budget, I will get the FX-8100 (8-core @ 3.6GHz) processor.


What card should I get for gaming then? GTS 450? Or a Sapphire Radeon HD 5770? Or something else? I'm looking for a cheaper than $200 graphics card if I can increase my budget, but if I'm stuck at a $600 budget, I would need less than $100 (can go a LITTLE over) for a decent graphics card.

As far as OS, my brother is attending a college computer programming class, and he can get his hands on a Windows OS for DIRT cheap. If he won't get me one, I have a friend who says that he has a friend who works for Microsoft and can get an OS for about $40.
February 3, 2013 8:02:42 PM

Well you certainly cant game with a Radeon 6450 .

The best graphics card less that $200 is probably the Radeon 7850 . Versions with 1 gig of memory are available for as little as $160
February 3, 2013 9:56:25 PM

Would this work better?

ASRock 970 EXTREME3 AM3+ ATX Mobo
-32GB max RAM (dual channel)
-AM3+ socket
-four 240 pin DDR3 RAM slots (800/1066/1333/1600*/1800*/1866*/2100*)
-two PCIE 2.0 x16s, two PCIE 2.0 x1s, and two PCIs
-no on-board graphics

AMD FX-8350 processor
-AM3+ socket
-8 cores
-4.0GHz (4.2GHz w/ turbo)

MSI GeForce GTX 470 graphics card
-one Mini-HDMI and two dual link DVI-I
-1280MB GDDR5 video memory
-607 MHz core clock speed
-1215 MHz shader clock speed
-1280 MB GDDR5 memory
-320-bit memory interface
-3348 MHz memory clock speed

Corsair XMS3 DDR3 1333MHz
-8GB (2 x 4GB)

NZXT PHAN-002GR Phantom chassis (body/case)
-Full tower
-E-ATX, ATX, and Micro ATX boards supported
-five 5.25" bays and seven 3.5" bays
-200mm LED fan
-Black and green color scheme

Cool Power Gamer series CP-G880 PSU
-880W max output
-20+4 pin main connector
-w/ SATA, PCIE, and dual 12V rails
-120mm LED lit fan

Thermaltake CLW0216 Water 2.0 Pro CPU Liquid Cooler
-120mm dual PMW fans
-1200-2000 RPM fan speed
-49mm thick radiator
-sealed circulation system


Running Win7 or Win8 (still haven't decided).

Would this bottleneck at all?


*price of this build $726 (not including shipping) plus however much for the OS*
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