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NEED HELP building new pc ($600-$1000 maby a little more budget)

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February 3, 2013 7:50:15 PM

Hello,
i am looking to build a gaming pc my current pc just isn't doing it for me this will be my first build and i need some help. I have a few things that i think i could keep. i have a mid tower, i also want to keep my current hard drive and i have a 550w power supply. i would like to be able to run 2 monitors and stream/ have a constant fps with no drops if i don't have enough in my budget I will be able to maby go to about $1500. thank you! also i would prefer Intel and don't need monitors either.

Approximate Purchase Date: 1 month.

Budget Range: (600-1000)

System Usage from Most to Least Important: gamming / streaming

Are you buying a monitor: No

Parts to Upgrade: (everything besides case and hard drive and maby powersupply)

Do you need to buy OS: not sure

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: (doesn't matter)

Location: , chesterton, indiana/ US

Parts Preferences: no preference

Overclocking: Maybe

SLI or Crossfire: Maybe

Your Monitor Resolution:1920x1080

Additional Comments: thanks for all the help :) .

And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: want to run with duel monitors and be able to stream and have steady fps.

My current specs - gtx550 navidia ge force, AMD Athlon II X3 450 3.20GHz, 8GB DDR3, 1TB HDD, and a mid tower. I have no idea what the motherboard is.
a b C Monitor
February 3, 2013 7:54:13 PM

country of origin. ur current pc part specs. so i need to know if they need changing.

do u need windows+keyboard+mousse?

a b C Monitor
February 3, 2013 7:54:43 PM

Hi there, check out the 'how to ask for newbuild and upgrade advice' sticky and post back, more info we have the better. For that budget you shouldn't have a problem getting what you need.

Edit: ice beat me to it.
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February 4, 2013 1:34:02 AM

mikerockett said:
Hi there, check out the 'how to ask for newbuild and upgrade advice' sticky and post back, more info we have the better. For that budget you shouldn't have a problem getting what you need.

Edit: ice beat me to it.


is that better?
a b C Monitor
February 4, 2013 3:12:34 AM

is what better i dont see anything

February 4, 2013 3:47:33 AM

iceclock said:
is what better i dont see anything


Hello,
i am looking to build a gaming pc my current pc just isn't doing it for me this will be my first build and i need some help. I have a few things that i think i could keep. i have a mid tower, i also want to keep my current hard drive and i have a 550w power supply. i would like to be able to run 2 monitors and stream/ have a constant fps with no drops if i don't have enough in my budget I will be able to maby go to about $1500. thank you! also i would prefer Intel and don't need monitors either.

Approximate Purchase Date: 1 month.

Budget Range: (600-1000)

System Usage from Most to Least Important: gamming / streaming

Are you buying a monitor: No

Parts to Upgrade: (everything besides case and hard drive and maby powersupply)

Do you need to buy OS: not sure

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: (doesn't matter)

Location: , chesterton, indiana/ US

Parts Preferences: no preference

Overclocking: Maybe

SLI or Crossfire: Maybe

Your Monitor Resolution:1920x1080

Additional Comments: thanks for all the help :) .

And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: want to run with duel monitors and be able to stream and have steady fps.

My current specs - gtx550 navidia ge force, AMD Athlon II X3 450 3.20GHz, 8GB DDR3, 1TB HDD, and a mid tower. I have no idea what the motherboard is.
February 4, 2013 3:56:18 AM

i fixed wat you guys said i needed to add to get help. :) 
a b C Monitor
February 4, 2013 3:59:36 AM

so whats ur realistic budget?

also what powersupply do u own?

February 4, 2013 4:10:19 AM

ok i will forsure have at least 1000$ but i can go a little over so anywhere from 1000-1300 usd$. and i am not sure on the power suply i just know its a 550w. :/  sorry
a b C Monitor
February 4, 2013 6:22:34 AM

Here's a build that should suit your needs fine. As you're not sure about your power supply i would highly recommend a new one so i have included one in the build.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($32.56 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($129.99 @ Microcenter)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial M4 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($107.95 @ Mac Connection)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition 3GB Video Card ($399.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($114.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Samsung SN-208DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($26.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $1052.44
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-02-04 03:21 EST-0500)
February 4, 2013 8:55:22 PM

mikerockett said:
Here's a build that should suit your needs fine. As you're not sure about your power supply i would highly recommend a new one so i have included one in the build.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($32.56 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($129.99 @ Microcenter)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial M4 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($107.95 @ Mac Connection)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition 3GB Video Card ($399.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($114.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Samsung SN-208DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($26.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $1052.44
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-02-04 03:21 EST-0500)


I would definitely recommend the AMD fx 8350 over the 3570k when streaming/gaming you REALLY need the multi-threaded performance of the AMD chip. It is as powerful as an high end i7 when it comes to multi-threads. If this build wasn't for streaming then the i5-3570k would be more adequate.
a b C Monitor
February 4, 2013 10:05:10 PM

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/BvUb
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/BvUb/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/BvUb/benchmarks/

CPU: AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($32.94 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus M5A99X EVO R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($119.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LP 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($65.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Galaxy GeForce GTX 660 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($194.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Galaxy GeForce GTX 660 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($194.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case ($64.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX750B BRONZE 750W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($89.99 @ Microcenter)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($16.98 @ Outlet PC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $1060.82
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-02-04 19:05 EST-0500)

should do the trick.

February 5, 2013 12:08:20 AM

thanks for all the help guys also if i keep my hard drive do i need to get a new os?
a b C Monitor
February 5, 2013 12:09:53 AM

well yes, u do.

February 5, 2013 12:11:31 AM

should i get windows 8 or stay with windows 7?
a b C Monitor
February 5, 2013 12:14:16 AM

windows 7 mang

February 5, 2013 12:31:04 AM

thanks joker... i mean iceclock
a b C Monitor
February 5, 2013 12:32:45 AM

whos joker. im iceclock :D 

February 5, 2013 4:14:31 AM

iceclock said:
PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/BvUb
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/BvUb/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/BvUb/benchmarks/

CPU: AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($32.94 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus M5A99X EVO R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($119.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LP 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($65.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Galaxy GeForce GTX 660 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($194.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Galaxy GeForce GTX 660 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($194.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case ($64.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX750B BRONZE 750W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($89.99 @ Microcenter)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($16.98 @ Outlet PC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $1060.82
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-02-04 19:05 EST-0500)

should do the trick.


Nice to see someone agree with me.

I recommend this memory since it's faster and cheaper.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

This DVD burner is a few dollars more and is better/faster.
http://www.microcenter.com/product/406773/DRW-24B1ST_In...

Also, these cases got the looks!
http://www.alienwarearena.com/forums/topic/15356/hardwa.....
a b C Monitor
February 5, 2013 6:28:17 AM

I guess streaming could utilise the extra, here's a build with a hyper threaded processor which should help with the streaming.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1230 V2 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($233.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock H77 Pro4/MVP ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($79.98 @ Outlet PC)
Memory: Patriot Viper 3 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($81.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition 3GB Video Card ($399.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($114.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Samsung SN-208DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($26.98 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $1027.89
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-02-05 03:29 EST-0500)
February 5, 2013 7:57:52 PM

thanks every one for all the advise currently i have this so far http://pcpartpicker.com/p/BDDQ and now i am just looking for a video card i have $400-450 to spend on it. again thanks for all the help i never suspected to get this much help. Tomsharware is the best!
a b C Monitor
February 5, 2013 10:35:45 PM

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/BIdU
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/BIdU/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/BIdU/benchmarks/

CPU: AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($32.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus M5A99X EVO R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($119.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LP 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($65.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LP 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($65.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card ($379.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX750B BRONZE 750W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($89.99 @ Microcenter)
Total: $944.83
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-02-05 19:35 EST-0500)

February 5, 2013 11:03:25 PM

mikerockett said:
I guess streaming could utilise the extra, here's a build with a hyper threaded processor which should help with the streaming.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1230 V2 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($233.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock H77 Pro4/MVP ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($79.98 @ Outlet PC)
Memory: Patriot Viper 3 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($81.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition 3GB Video Card ($399.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($114.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Samsung SN-208DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($26.98 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $1027.89
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-02-05 03:29 EST-0500)


There are many problems with that build. First of all is that the motherboard is not compatible with the board. Second is that there is more memory than you really need. Third is that the memory will take months to ship. Fourth is that the memory is not a good deal because you can get 2133mhz memory for lower price. Fifth, you can get a very good DVD burner for a few bucks less. Finally, the xeon is a dead socket that is used for servers and some workstations.
a b C Monitor
February 5, 2013 11:21:29 PM

that cpu is compatible with the mobo. lol

February 5, 2013 11:32:39 PM

I revised the build http://pcpartpicker.com/p/BIHU
Also, with Windows 8 you either like it or hate it. I had Windows 8 since the consumer preview came out. You should check it out.
February 6, 2013 12:37:37 AM

IDK, but the Xeon seems sketchy to me.
a b C Monitor
February 6, 2013 6:21:34 AM

A lot of the time i generally don't advise people to get xeons but in this build it's worth the consideration due to it's hyper threading capabilities for the streaming.

To be honest i still think your under estimating the 3570k, everything that i've read and heard so far seems to indicate that it will be perfectly comfortable gaming and live streaming.
a b C Monitor
February 6, 2013 8:32:47 PM

yep. hell id buy a xeon.

February 7, 2013 2:33:29 AM

If it were me, I would get a desktop cpu for a desktop computer.

Simply:
fx 8350 > i5-3570k multicores/threads - streaming + gaming
i5-3570k > fx 8350 single-core performance - gaming
It also depends where you getting your information is biased or not (usually intel).
a b C Monitor
February 7, 2013 5:57:29 AM

To be honest, when you consider most games still only utilise 2 cores, some 3 and very few 4+, a 3570k is still a considerable option for streaming and gaming, when you add in that the 3570k is better on the gaming front that's the choice i'd go for.

For information like this i generally base my information on people that have used the set up and how it's performed for them, always better to go real world than benchmarks or marketing.
a b C Monitor
February 7, 2013 9:55:54 AM

depends. if u dont care for overclocking, and need the 4 extra ht cores xeon rules at 230$.

February 7, 2013 10:00:57 PM

More and more games now are supporting more cores. I believe in the near future most games will be utilizing the most cores as possible.

mikerockett said:
always better to go real world than benchmarks or marketing.


Same exact thing with the 8350.


me- fx 8350
mikerockett - i5-3570k
iceclock - xeonE3-1230
a b C Monitor
February 8, 2013 9:56:16 AM

yar :) 

a b C Monitor
February 11, 2013 8:24:23 PM

looks good. ur ready to rock.

alot better ;) 

February 11, 2013 8:30:42 PM

so what do you suggest full or mid case?
a b C Monitor
February 11, 2013 8:31:11 PM

depends u want a smaller less heavy case or a bit tower

February 11, 2013 8:33:38 PM

would it fit in a mid?
February 11, 2013 8:44:55 PM

More and more games are going to utilize more cores in the future by the way. Especially when the Xbox720 is said to have an 8-core processor.
a b C Monitor
February 11, 2013 9:03:09 PM

yes it would.

whats ur budget for case?
February 11, 2013 10:02:19 PM

100-200 usd
a b C Monitor
February 11, 2013 10:39:05 PM

you want a tall tower or mid-tower?

February 11, 2013 11:06:33 PM

dosnt realy matter to me it will be under my desk so i wont see it very often.
February 12, 2013 1:55:05 AM

Well, it is more of your style on the choice of the case.
Be sure it has a top fan so hot air rises out of the case.
a b C Monitor
February 12, 2013 3:03:38 AM

well its a sexy case, and doesnt stand out too much. i dont see areason why someone would find it ugly. but yeah choices are choices.

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