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February 4, 2013 1:08:32 PM

Hello, everyone, I am new to the whole pc gaming thing and i recently built gaming desktop Nd was wondering if anyone thought it was decent enough for gaming or complete crap.

CPU: AMD FX 8120 EIGHT CORE (3.10GHZ, 8MB cache, am3+)

Motherboard: ASUS M5A97 (DDR3, USB 3.0, 6GB/s)

RAM: 8GB SAMSUNG 1333mhz , 2x4gb

Graphics Card: 1 GB AMD RADEON HD 7750

Memory: 500GB

It all comes out to £462, I don't think I am willing to go much higher, I was just wondering if I would be doing overkill on anything by paying extra for something which I cant even use, Thanks

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a b 4 Gaming
February 4, 2013 1:43:14 PM

Its a very poor choice of CPU for gaming an FX6300 would be a better choice. Also the graphics card is OK if thats all you budget can stretch to but its only entry level. I suggest you drop the CPU to a Phenom II 965 or a pentium G series with a cheaper motherboard so you can get a better GPU like a Radeon 7850. £123 with 2 games http://www.aria.co.uk/SuperSpecials/Other+products/XFX+...
or £135 for the 2Gb version http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/Graphics+Card...
February 4, 2013 1:57:22 PM

Okay so if i move the cpu down to a fx 6300, and change the motherboard to the, asus m5a78l-m /usb3 (m-atx, ddr3, usb 3.0, 3gb/s)
And change the graphics card to a amd radeon 7770, would that be good
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a b 4 Gaming
February 4, 2013 2:11:50 PM

This topic has been moved from the section CPU & Components to section Systems by Mousemonkey
a b B Homebuilt system
February 4, 2013 2:17:43 PM

Way better and way under your original budget.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£69.23 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-78LMT-S2P Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard (£35.15 @ CCL Computers)
Memory: GeIL Enhance CORSA 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£30.23 @ CCL Computers)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£39.96 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card (£217.99 @ Aria PC)
Total: £392.56
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-02-04 16:17 GMT+0000)
February 4, 2013 2:21:25 PM

Depends on what resolution you will be gaming on, and what games you will play.

February 4, 2013 2:34:32 PM

Ill be wanting to play games like cod tomb raider bioshock,(note: the new ones) games like that, and see those parts you recommended will i have to put it all together myself or will they huild it and send it?
a b B Homebuilt system
February 4, 2013 2:46:03 PM

You will have to build it. If this is a new build, you will need some more components like a case, PSU, probably a ROM drive, and an OS. If this is the case, then there needs to be some changes to the build to fit your budget.
February 4, 2013 3:00:56 PM

So the pc i had listed before would that be good enough to play games on high setting or is it complete crap
a b B Homebuilt system
February 4, 2013 3:43:20 PM

It is not crap, it is just not good utilization for gaming. 8 cores is too much for games. The 7750 is an out-dated card. With your budget, the 965 will be good for now and since the motherboard is AM3+ ready, you can upgrade the CPU later (something like the 4300, 6300, 8320, or 8350 as they are Piledriver architecture). It will also handle the 7950 just fine.
February 4, 2013 3:50:14 PM

Isnt the 965 lower than the 7750 card i ourchased, not tryj g to sound gimpy but what harm is there in having a better graphics card, or am i completely wrong lol
a b B Homebuilt system
February 4, 2013 3:53:00 PM

The 965 is the CPU, the 7750 is the graphics card. Two different components. You will run games great with the 7950 and the Phenom II X4 965. High to Ultra settings on just about anything you throw at it.
February 4, 2013 4:27:02 PM

If i were to bud a computer from scrat h with a case and everything what would you recommend i get which is good and lower than 500 if possible
February 4, 2013 5:57:40 PM

Cball, see those parts you rcommended, what case should i buy if i were thinking about purchasing those along with memory ram and power supply
a b B Homebuilt system
February 4, 2013 6:30:14 PM

Here is the whole build minus the OS.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£69.23 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-78LMT-S2P Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard (£35.15 @ CCL Computers)
Memory: GeIL Enhance CORSA 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£30.23 @ CCL Computers)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£39.96 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card (£217.99 @ Aria PC)
Case: Silverstone SST-RL01B-USB 3.0 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case (£35.16 @ Scan.co.uk)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 450W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply (£36.98 @ Novatech)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer (£12.98 @ Scan.co.uk)
Total: £477.68
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-02-04 20:29 GMT+0000)
February 4, 2013 6:49:09 PM

Is there any chance i can reduce that price in terms off memory power supply etc. Not graphics card motherboard or cpu
a b B Homebuilt system
February 4, 2013 6:54:11 PM

hypnotoast said:
Is there any chance i can reduce that price in terms off memory power supply etc. Not graphics card motherboard or cpu


Not really. Unless you want to drop down to a 7870 video card. That will save you some cash plus you can overclock it close to 7950 specs. Did change the case too.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£69.23 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-78LMT-S2P Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard (£35.15 @ CCL Computers)
Memory: GeIL Enhance CORSA 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£30.23 @ CCL Computers)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£39.96 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7870 2GB Video Card (£167.99 @ Aria PC)
Case: BitFenix Merc Alpha (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case (£29.99 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 450W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply (£36.98 @ Novatech)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer (£12.98 @ Scan.co.uk)
Total: £422.51
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-02-04 20:53 GMT+0000)

February 4, 2013 7:31:37 PM

Hmm... is the case open to easy upgrades? another few questions for you, sorry.

Is it easy to upgrade the desktop with the current case?
Is there a risk to overclocking?
What does grou ding mean when building a desktop?
How do you ground? How do you prevent the static thing?

Note: i dont mind if you dont answer, you have done enough for me, thanks by the way :) 
a b B Homebuilt system
February 4, 2013 9:48:26 PM

hypnotoast said:
Hmm... is the case open to easy upgrades? another few questions for you, sorry.

Is it easy to upgrade the desktop with the current case?
Is there a risk to overclocking?
What does grou ding mean when building a desktop?
How do you ground? How do you prevent the static thing?

Note: i dont mind if you dont answer, you have done enough for me, thanks by the way :) 


No problem. Feel free to ask anytime. That is what we are here for.

1. Yes. You can fit any micro ATX or ATX motherboard in the case. Any GPU should be fine and most air cooled CPU coolers.
2. Overclocking is done by you. You are recommended to have an aftermarket cooler to overclock the CPU. GPUs can be overclocked without any extra hardware.
Here is a good aftermarket cooler for the price.
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£24.00 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
3. Grounding means that you discharge yourself from any static electricity build up. This is very important because you can fry your components if you don't. Components can be fried with as little as 100 volts of electricity and static discharge can produce as much as 3000 volts of electricity!! To discharge yourself, just touch the case often (usually on the outside or the drive bays), especially if you step away from the build and return.
February 4, 2013 9:56:51 PM

Do i only need to make sure i dont touch the motherboard or the other components aswell?

This is sort of a strange questions, see the amd never settle deals, how long do they last for is it only a certain period off time or will it go on for like a year, because there is a tomb raider and bioshock free deal if you buy the 7870 graphics card and i figured that because j wont be buying it for sometime just how long the offer will actually last
a b B Homebuilt system
February 4, 2013 10:04:30 PM

You can touch any of the components but make sure you grab them by the edges when you go to install them. Don't touch the pins on the CPU or the pins on RAM and GPU.

The 7870 would be fine if you want the free games. You will see good FPS on Med-High settings in even the most newer games.

You should google "Building a Computer" and look at some videos on how it is done.
February 4, 2013 10:32:42 PM

What would happen if i touch the pins?

I was looking at some game play videos of then7870 cards and people were displaying games on high settings and ultra in some cases and the graphics looked awesome, would this be the resukt of overclocking, or...
a b B Homebuilt system
February 4, 2013 11:06:54 PM

1. You could fry the component.

2. Not necessarily. You can overclock to achieve higher FPS depending on how much you overclock. You could see as much as %15 increase in FPS in some games.
February 4, 2013 11:15:36 PM

What is a decent amount of fps for a game to run smoothly, and are you not only supposed to be worried about that if you plan on recording gameplay or is that fraps, i just want it to run smoothly nothing so major, just so it doesnt look glitchy
a b B Homebuilt system
February 4, 2013 11:27:43 PM

If you use FRAPS, you will see a little drop in FPS (3-7). You would have to turn down the quality to regain those FPS.
February 4, 2013 11:28:00 PM

Im not planning on recording by the way, only want something good for my eyes lol
February 4, 2013 11:38:22 PM

What are fraps, will the phenom work well if i left it at its factory settings or will i have to overclock it to make it better
a b B Homebuilt system
February 4, 2013 11:43:02 PM

FRAPS is a frames per second monitoring tool and gameplay recording application.

The Phenom will be fine at stock. You don't have to overclock it unless you want too.
February 4, 2013 11:46:36 PM

I have a dell dimension 3000 computer, and was wondering that if i took the metal case plate off of it and stood on it while i was building the desktop, would that keep me grounded
a b B Homebuilt system
February 4, 2013 11:51:20 PM

You don't have to worry about any of that. Try not to work on carpet. Just make sure you touch the case often.
February 4, 2013 11:54:48 PM

My whole house has carpet except the kitchen which is like skme material i cant remember, its a roll out with a pattern on it, which i think has the most static generation i think if i walk on it, so if i stand on a metal plate would that be fine
a b B Homebuilt system
February 4, 2013 11:56:19 PM

Sure. Wouldn't hurt.
February 5, 2013 1:24:04 AM

I'm going to jump in here. I have the 7870 ( I saw it being discussed earlier) and it runs the crysis 3 multiplayer beta on ultra, at 40 frames per second. I should note that this is the most strenuous game existing, running at it's most strenuous settings. the 7950 is overkill. (hell, the 7850 is good as well. it ran crysis 3 mp beta at 32 fps (ultra, 1080p) which is very playable, although I would tone down the settings)

so I would actually (in the interest of your budget) suggest a 7850 2GB, in order to save another 25-30.

if you want free games, you'll get bioshock infinite (60 USD value) and tomb raider (if you really want it...) for the 7850 or the 7870. if you get the 7950 as suggested by cball, then you'll get crysis 3 as well (not just the beta)

I would suggest the 7850, as it is a very good component that will run anything you want it too at high (not ultra) settings. ultra can be iffy, depending on your monitor resolution.

I'm happy to answer questions if you like.
February 5, 2013 1:25:57 AM

Are there any websites for the uk which you would recommend which actually build the desktop for you?

Could you also tell me a where to find a guide which shows the easiest way to build a gaming desktop and any hints and tips from yourself
February 5, 2013 1:31:59 AM

So if i purxhase the card your suggesting i will get all three games for free? And thanks for showing jnterest by the way, appreciate it :) 
February 5, 2013 1:55:56 AM

you won't get any more than 2 games.

with the 7850 OR the 7870: you get tomb raider and bioshock infinite

with the 7950 or the 7970: you get crysis 3 and bioshock infinite

the card I am suggesting will save you more money, while not sacrificing much in the way of performance.

I live in the US, so I can't recommend any sites that will build it for you. all I know is that the labor fee for building it is usually near 15% that of the component cost, meaning you pay exorbitant prices.

as for guides:

this is a good place to start: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bh455l3348s

this is a very good channel to look at: http://www.youtube.com/user/linustechtips (yes, he does have over 1600 videos. just use the search bar)

as for personal tips: you can't screw it up if you're careful. basically, read all of the documentation that comes with your parts, and BE VERY CAREFUL WHEN INSERTING THE CPU. everything else, it goes in the slot it looks like it goes in. just watch some PC build videos, and you'll get the idea.
February 5, 2013 9:35:18 AM

See if i stand a metal plate from one of my old desktop cases will that keep me grounded while i work on buildingnthe desktop, what do people mean when they say just touch the case with the power connrcted or omething
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