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[SOLVED]2nd gaming pc build ~$1000+100

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February 4, 2013 3:24:07 PM

This will be 2nd time I'm building a gaming pc. The 1st one will be handed down to my cousin.

Aprox. purchase date: within next 2 months

Budget range: less than $1000(+100) preferably, I don't mind rebate never had problems before

Usage: mostly gaming and watching movie

No prefered website to purchase from.

NOT ANYMORE:[Do prefered nvidia over amd for the stereoscopic 3D (might not be good at all since current set up don't do well with that)].
It was the bad lighting and minor eye ache when I re-tried the stereoscopic 3D so I'm considering the better price/performace now with 7970.

Overclock: I've tried before only toward the lower safer zone not pushing the limit

monitor Asus vg236, 1920x1080 120hz

Things I'm keeping from the old one:
- 2x 250GB Samsung 840 ssd (not in raid set up)
- 120hz monitor (trying to get more than 60 fps now)
- windows 7 64-bit pro

Current plans:
- i5-3570k
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007SZ0E1K/ref=ox_sc_a...

- HSF: Corsair h100i
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009ZN2NH6/ref=ox_sc_a...

- Mobo: asrock z77 extreme4
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007KTY4A6/ref=ox_sc_a...

- Ram: 2x4GB low profile corsair
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00569K7LM/ref=ox_sc_a...

- PSU: corsair tx750
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004MYFODI/ref=ox_sc_a...

- GPU: msi gtx 670 pe (currently only going to get 1, but might get a 2nd to SLI later)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008BGXYAS/ref=ox_sc_a...
-OR: xfx 7970 ghz edition,
http://www.amazon.com/XFX-Edition-1050MHz-Graphics-FX79...

- case: CM haf xm
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007Q7EG7I/ref=ox_sc_a...

Things I could use help with:
- Is motherboard good enough for moderate overclocking? Is there cheaper one that do the same or same price one that does better?
- Is gpu going to give 120fps on low to mid setting and 60fps when doing 3D?
- Is psu going to power the sli gtx 670 in the future? (I read that it should but just to be safe going to ask anyway)
- I'm not picky about case as long as it have enough room inside to fit everything then I'm happy looks is not a priority for me.

:sweat:  sorry for big block of text, please do give suggestion and advice wherever possible, thank you.

edit: Also wanted to ask if the hsf good enough for 4.4ghz oc?
2: no need for push pull
3: might use nh-d14 instead of 212 evo
4: 3570k + evo took out 2500k and nh-d14
5: switched 212 evo with h100i
6: might change gtx 670 to 7970 ghz
a c 276 4 Gaming
February 4, 2013 3:28:17 PM

First off don't purchase a 2500K with a Z77 motherboard, get the 3570K instead.

To answer the questionss:

1. Yes. Alternately consider the Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD3H.

2. Yeah the GTX 670 will get those frame rates no problem.

3. Yes.

4. The HAF XM is a good choice. If you want alternate case suggestions I recommend the NZXT Phantom and the Corsair Carbide 500R.
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February 4, 2013 3:37:59 PM

g-unit1111 said:
First off don't purchase a 2500K with a Z77 motherboard, get the 3570K instead.

To answer the questionss:

1. Yes. Alternately consider the Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD3H.

2. Yeah the GTX 670 will get those frame rates no problem.

3. Yes.

4. The HAF XM is a good choice. If you want alternate case suggestions I recommend the NZXT Phantom and the Corsair Carbide 500R.


I'm choosing the 2500k because it is cheaper(barely) and I don't do any movie or video editing and just for gaming does it do much to get 3570k instead
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a c 276 4 Gaming
February 4, 2013 3:39:32 PM

mikegeorge said:
I'm choosing the 2500k because it is cheaper(barely) and I don't do any movie or video editing and just for gaming does it do much to get 3570k instead


Yes - newer architecture and it overclocks somewhat better. Plus you also get HD 4000 video which doesn't mean much but in the event something goes wrong with your GPU it's good to have.
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February 4, 2013 4:03:05 PM

g-unit1111 said:
Yes - newer architecture and it overclocks somewhat better. Plus you also get HD 4000 video which doesn't mean much but in the event something goes wrong with your GPU it's good to have.


Will I need a beefier hsf for ivy bridge then? since it tend to have higher temp than sandy bridge
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a c 276 4 Gaming
February 4, 2013 4:20:17 PM

mikegeorge said:
Will I need a beefier hsf for ivy bridge then? since it tend to have higher temp than sandy bridge


Only when you mess with the voltage will it have higher temperatures but that will happen with any CPU on the market, it isn't just limited to Ivy.
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a b 4 Gaming
February 4, 2013 4:28:26 PM

2500k+Extreme 4 = 4.7GHz+ I was in the same boat (2500k or 3570k) and chose the 2500k due to heat issues with the 3570k and I think my choice was fine (plus it was $15 cheaper). Both good choices. And, who cares about 2500HD or 4000HD.

For overclocking, the EVO is fine for mild/mid overclock, but I would recommend something better (forget about push/pull with EVO-not worth it). Get a Thermaltake Frio for only $20 more than the EVO.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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a c 276 4 Gaming
February 4, 2013 4:34:06 PM

envy14tpe said:
2500k+Extreme 4 = 4.7GHz+ I was in the same boat (2500k or 3570k) and chose the 2500k due to heat issues with the 3570k and I think my choice was fine (plus it was $15 cheaper). Both good choices. And, who cares about 2500HD or 4000HD.

For overclocking, the EVO is fine for mild/mid overclock, but I would recommend something better (forget about push/pull with EVO-not worth it). Get a Thermaltake Frio for only $20 more than the EVO.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


The heat issues only happen with voltage changes, but like I said - it affects *EVERY* CPU on the market, that isn't just limited to Ivy Bridge. Yeah the onboard video is kind of a non issue anyways but it definitely doesn't hurt.

The Frio is an OK choice, I'd recommend the Noctua U9B over it.
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February 4, 2013 5:20:38 PM

g-unit1111 said:
The heat issues only happen with voltage changes, but like I said - it affects *EVERY* CPU on the market, that isn't just limited to Ivy Bridge. Yeah the onboard video is kind of a non issue anyways but it definitely doesn't hurt.

The Frio is an OK choice, I'd recommend the Noctua U9B over it.


I know I can probably get a better hsf but if I do the 3570k and the 212 evo will it be able to go 4.5ghz still or will it be less?
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February 4, 2013 5:33:48 PM

mikegeorge said:
I know I can probably get a better hsf but if I do the 3570k and the 212 evo will it be able to go 4.5ghz still or will it be less?

Sandy 4.5GHz=Ivy 4.3/4.4GHz in terms of performance. Seems easy to reach 4.5GHz on 3570k with Extreme4+Evo. I don't own either but should be easy to do.
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February 4, 2013 5:38:30 PM

envy14tpe said:
Sandy 4.5GHz=Ivy 4.3/4.4GHz in terms of performance. Seems easy to reach 4.5GHz on 3570k with Extreme4+Evo. I don't own either but should be easy to do.


So if the 3570k get to 4.3/4.4 is as good as 4.5 2500k or is it better or about same? just gaming wise
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a b 4 Gaming
February 4, 2013 5:43:25 PM

mikegeorge said:
So if the 3570k get to 4.3/4.4 is as good as 4.5 2500k or is it better or about same? just gaming wise

I can't find the link, but essentially the comparison is the same. I chose the 2500k cuz it was an overclocking beast but I was too cheap with my motherboard to take full advantage of it.
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February 4, 2013 5:55:59 PM

envy14tpe said:
I can't find the link, but essentially the comparison is the same. I chose the 2500k cuz it was an overclocking beast but I was too cheap with my motherboard to take full advantage of it.


Does the z77 extreme4 limit the 3570k or the 2500k?
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a c 276 4 Gaming
February 4, 2013 9:40:55 PM

mikegeorge said:
Does the z77 extreme4 limit the 3570k or the 2500k?


With the 3570K you get PCI 3.0, with the 2500K, you don't.
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February 4, 2013 11:14:03 PM

g-unit1111 said:
With the 3570K you get PCI 3.0, with the 2500K, you don't.


Ya I ran into that bit of info so am deciding for the 3570k now but what I meant to ask was if this board will limit the overclock capability of the 3570k?
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February 4, 2013 11:19:24 PM

An extreme 4 will not limit your ability to overclock at all,especially on air.
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February 5, 2013 3:43:59 PM

robthatguyx said:
An extreme 4 will not limit your ability to overclock at all,especially on air.


Is 4.4ghz on the 212 evo 3570k reasonable?
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a c 276 4 Gaming
February 5, 2013 4:17:37 PM

mikegeorge said:
Ya I ran into that bit of info so am deciding for the 3570k now but what I meant to ask was if this board will limit the overclock capability of the 3570k?


No - any Z77 board will not limit overclocking. H77 and B75 both do not allow access to the multiplier so if you're thinking about overclocking don't purchase either one of those boards.
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a b 4 Gaming
February 5, 2013 4:44:39 PM

mikegeorge said:
Is 4.4ghz on the 212 evo 3570k reasonable?

Mike. The 3570k+Evo will not limit overclocking (cuz you want a Z77 extreme 4). It's a good board and you'll reach 4.4GHz. Don't worry so much.
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February 5, 2013 4:57:29 PM

it's mainly because ivy bridge are known to be more toasty than the sandy bridge that's why I'm concern about the 212evo
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a c 276 4 Gaming
February 5, 2013 5:15:22 PM

mikegeorge said:
it's mainly because ivy bridge are known to be more toasty than the sandy bridge that's why I'm concern about the 212evo


That's only when you start messing with the voltages to achieve higher overclocks. But as I said every CPU on the market will have this happen when you do that - it's not just limited to Ivy Bridge.
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February 5, 2013 5:16:35 PM

g-unit1111 said:
That's only when you start messing with the voltages to achieve higher overclocks. But as I said every CPU on the market will have this happen when you do that - it's not just limited to Ivy Bridge.


So it can get 4.4ghz with out adding voltage?
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February 5, 2013 7:48:49 PM

Every chip is different some need more volts some don't,There is never a set amount of settings a chip has to have to reach an overclock.
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February 6, 2013 4:01:42 PM

I added another 100 to budget so I can get the h100i and that saved 30 from the evo that I'm trying to get a pcie wifi card. Any suggestion for the wifi card and it look like it should fit in the mobo at the bottom slot.
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February 6, 2013 5:01:06 PM

Be warned the stock h100i fans make some motor whine so if your sensitive to high pitch whine look into sp120s with 7v adapters. Atleast as of when i got my unit,even with a flash for new firmware the wine was there still.As for a wifi card i wouldn't worry to much about brands unless your hardcore competitive gaming and need absolutely the best latency(and in that case id tell you go wired)
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a c 276 4 Gaming
February 6, 2013 5:23:53 PM

robthatguyx said:
Be warned the stock h100i fans make some motor whine so if your sensitive to high pitch whine look into sp120s with 7v adapters. Atleast as of when i got my unit,even with a flash for new firmware the wine was there still.As for a wifi card i wouldn't worry to much about brands unless your hardcore competitive gaming and need absolutely the best latency(and in that case id tell you go wired)


Interesting - I didn't know that about the H100i, I think I would go with a D14 over it, it's still the reigning king of HSF for now.
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February 6, 2013 5:54:53 PM

robthatguyx said:
Be warned the stock h100i fans make some motor whine so if your sensitive to high pitch whine look into sp120s with 7v adapters. Atleast as of when i got my unit,even with a flash for new firmware the wine was there still.As for a wifi card i wouldn't worry to much about brands unless your hardcore competitive gaming and need absolutely the best latency(and in that case id tell you go wired)


Interesting indeed. I wouldn't like high pitch whine, does the 7v adapter comes with the sp120s or is that a seperate buy?
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February 6, 2013 6:35:41 PM

When you buy the dual pack they come with the fans.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
yeah, it was a surprise to me to when i got it. its something to do with how the corsair link controls the pwm on them.If that makes the h100i to much for your budget than the nhd14,and thermalright silver arrow sb extreme are the two kings of air cooling.
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February 6, 2013 6:56:27 PM

Does it only whine when connected to the corsair link or does it still whine when it's connected directly onto the mobo fan header?

edit: seems only whine at low setting, and at medium setting is still not as loud as the 212 fan so should be okay right?
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February 6, 2013 7:55:33 PM

Well it all depends my fans wined at low and medium settings and i couldnt hear the wine at high only because the fans were to loud and rattled at high. I heard of someone using the motherboard headers but i diddn't bother with it because the whole reason i went with the h100i was because i wanted to use corsair link.The stock fans on balanced are quieter than my 212 evo was and the sp120s gave me about 5c difference cooler while being set on quiet rather than balanced.
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February 8, 2013 3:57:16 AM

Right now the xfx 7970ghz is only $30 more than the msi 670pe and if I don't get the extra fan for h100i that fund can go into the switch. Good idea?

I don't mind not using the corsair link to control fan and the 7970ghz is 2 tier higher than the 670 for only $30 more
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a b 4 Gaming
February 8, 2013 5:44:26 AM

mikegeorge said:
Right now the xfx 7970ghz is only $30 more than the msi 670pe and if I don't get the extra fan for h100i that fund can go into the switch. Good idea?

I don't mind not using the corsair link to control fan and the 7970ghz is 2 tier higher than the 670 for only $30 more

I think the price is right.

An extra fan only saves 1-2C. What's the point? Especially since you got a H100i. Personally, I'd rather have the nh-d14 and deal with less issues. It saves some money and its the best on the market.
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