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February 4, 2013 11:40:41 PM

Ok so this system that i'd like to build is going to be used daily for general use,surfing web. and any games that i can managed. goingt to run at 1280x1024

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Bw5X
AMD A10-5800K 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor $123.79
Gigabyte GA-F2A85X-UP4 ATX FM2 Motherboard $119.99
Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory $50.99
Toshiba 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $69.98
Thermaltake Smart 530W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply $59.95
Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer $16.98
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) $89.98
ULTRA XBlaster Pro U12-42350 Mid-Tower Case $29.99
Total $560+sh

My idea with this system is that at a latter point i'd be able to etheir dual graphics, crossfire. or dissable the IGP Running a high-end card and thus have some headroom to do some overclocking the cpu. But before I go shelling out this much money I'd just like some opions from someone else on this setup.

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a b B Homebuilt system
February 4, 2013 11:50:14 PM
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I would go with this. A dedicated GPU is so much better than integrated graphics. You can run any game at at least medium settings with this build.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 975 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor ($82.18 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-78LMT-S2 Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($49.98 @ Outlet PC)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($43.98 @ Outlet PC)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7850 1GB Video Card ($154.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Thermaltake VL80001W2Z ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($65.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($16.98 @ Outlet PC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $584.06
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-02-04 20:49 EST-0500)

February 5, 2013 12:00:55 AM

take the 6300 AMD instead, throw in a cheap cooler 15$
get windows7
and buy a 7750 or 7770 gpu, and you will be abale to run a lot of games on decent graphics ;) 
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a b B Homebuilt system
February 5, 2013 12:04:20 AM

Get a better cpu, the amd apu isn't a good cpu, if you want to add another card get a better cpu for it, for e.g. the FX-6300, since you have amd apu, i'm going to suggest an amd one, a 7750 is suffice for casual gaming at 720p.
My suggestion :

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

Motherboard: MSI 970A-G46 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($74.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7750 1GB Video Card ($93.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: NZXT Gamma Classic (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($32.83 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Antec Neo Eco 520W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($16.98 @ Outlet PC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Other: Patriot Viper 3 8GB 2X4GB PC3-12800 DDR3-1600 9-9-9-24 1.5V Dual Channel Memory Kit ($37.99)
Other: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 7200RPM 64MB SATA 6Gbps ($69.99)
Other: FX-6300 ($129.99)
Total: $586.71
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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There's three custom links, because pcpartpicker is currently bugged, it doesn't show ncix parts, the ram, the cpu and hdd are from ncix usa, it has free shipping.
The cpu is this one : http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=76934&promoid=1292
The ram is this one : http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=74758&promoid=1292
The hdd : http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=65701&vpn=ST1000DM003&...
February 5, 2013 12:11:09 AM

cball1311 said:
I would go with this. A dedicated GPU is so much better than integrated graphics. You can run any game at at least medium settings with this build.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 975 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor ($82.18 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-78LMT-S2 Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($49.98 @ Outlet PC)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($43.98 @ Outlet PC)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7850 1GB Video Card ($154.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Thermaltake VL80001W2Z ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($65.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($16.98 @ Outlet PC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $584.06
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-02-04 20:49 EST-0500)


I did go through the AM3 boards but didn't find anything that i liked under $140.I like the idea of having plenty of expansion ports(I'll probabbly never use more than 2 or 3 though :sarcastic:  If anything I'd like a full size ATX Board. But I do think i'll use the 7850 when i can afford to throw it in
a b B Homebuilt system
February 5, 2013 12:11:27 AM

gussrtk said:
take the 6300 AMD instead, throw in a cheap cooler 15$
get windows7
and buy a 7750 or 7770 gpu, and you will be abale to run a lot of games on decent graphics ;) 


Don't agree here. The performance jump from the 7770 to the 7850 outweighs the price difference. On Max Payne 3 there is a 50% difference in FPS between the 7770 and 7850.
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/Catalyst_12.11_Performance/12.html

6 cores are too much for gaming. I think the he will be fine with the 975 for a while and then upgrade to an FX CPU.


a b B Homebuilt system
February 5, 2013 12:15:33 AM

Maxitout said:
I did go through the AM3 boards but didn't find anything that i liked under $140.I like the idea of having plenty of expansion ports(I'll probabbly never use more than 2 or 3 though :sarcastic:  If anything I'd like a full size ATX Board. But I do think i'll use the 7850 when i can afford to throw it in


For this low of a budget (no offense), you would be better off putting as much as you can into the GPU, then the CPU. You will have a much better experience with a single GPU anyway. With that low of a resolution, you can probably play any game at max settings. I had a Phenom X4 925 2.8 GHz CPU up until Christmas and I didn't have any problems playing games on decent settings (GTX 460 SLI then). Get 975 for now, then save to get an FX processor later on.
February 5, 2013 12:17:10 AM

djangoringo said:
Get a better cpu, the amd apu isn't a good cpu, if you want to add another card get a better cpu for it, for e.g. the FX-6300, since you have amd apu, i'm going to suggest an amd one, a 7750 is suffice for casual gaming at 720p.
My suggestion :

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

Motherboard: ASRock 970DE3/U3S3 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7750 1GB Video Card ($93.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: NZXT Gamma Classic (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($32.83 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Antec Neo Eco 520W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($16.98 @ Outlet PC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Other: Patriot Viper 3 8GB 2X4GB PC3-12800 DDR3-1600 9-9-9-24 1.5V Dual Channel Memory Kit ($37.99)
Other: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 7200RPM 64MB SATA 6Gbps ($69.99)
Other: FX-6300 ($129.99)
Total: $581.72
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

There's three custom links, because pcpartpicker is currently bugged, it doesn't show ncix parts, the ram, the cpu and hdd are from ncix usa, it has free shipping.
The cpu is this one : http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=76934&promoid=1292
The ram is this one : http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=74758&promoid=1292
The hdd : http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=65701&vpn=ST1000DM003&...

Now this setup does look pretty good. But do you know of a similar board with at least 2 PCIex16 slots on it?
February 5, 2013 12:24:52 AM

cball1311 said:
For this low of a budget (no offense), you would be better off putting as much as you can into the GPU, then the CPU. You will have a much better experience with a single GPU anyway. With that low of a resolution, you can probably play any game at max settings. I had a Phenom X4 925 2.8 GHz CPU up until Christmas and I didn't have any problems playing games on decent settings (GTX 460 SLI then). Get 975 for now, then save to get an FX processor later on.

Yeah i don't think i'll ever use more than one gpu, i meant i'd like to have a couple extra slots avalible should i want to put some other type of asessories in.Also as which FX Processor would you recommend.If pricing is similar id rather buy the one little more expensive now than to pay for two.
February 5, 2013 12:25:55 AM

cball1311 said:
Don't agree here. The performance jump from the 7770 to the 7850 outweighs the price difference. On Max Payne 3 there is a 50% difference in FPS between the 7770 and 7850.
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/Catalyst_12.11_Performance/12.html

6 cores are too much for gaming. I think the he will be fine with the 975 for a while and then upgrade to an FX CPU.

we wrote a reply at same time, you posted sooner than me, that's all. but if he doesnt game a lot like he said, he can save some money there, and it aint like he is gonna lose out on a 7770 for his needs, it may be sufficient
February 5, 2013 12:33:13 AM

do one of you guys know what the PCIex16 slots that are marked x8 or x4 mean. I sure Dont :( 
February 5, 2013 12:38:38 AM

Now on the FX-6300 i was just looking at it and its specs are nice,so question is, is the fx-6300 not that great for gaming, or is the 6 core just overkill?
a b B Homebuilt system
February 5, 2013 12:49:01 AM

The msi mobo has two pcie 2.0 slots(16x/8x) and supports any amd cpu, the micro atx motherboard only supports the FX-6300.
If you do casual gaming or just few less intensive games, a 7750/7770 will do for 720p.
And you'll have already the FX-6300.
Instead of upgrading later the cpu, just upgrade the gpu when you'll buy a new monitor like a 1080p one.
February 5, 2013 1:13:32 AM

another thing that I just came accross a biostar am3+ that lists 6c and 8cores as supported. Do most am3+ boards support the 6core such as FX-6300?
a b B Homebuilt system
February 5, 2013 1:20:51 AM

The msi one is fine for what you need, i wouldn't spend so much on a motherboard, unless you have the budget for it.
If you want a board with 990FX chipset : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Mobos with old chipsets have problems with supporting some FX cpus, 970 chipset ones and 990FX are fine though.
February 5, 2013 1:28:57 AM

Is the FX-6300 the best FX cpu to use in a computer that's for basic use and less than Xtreme gaming? or would you suggest a different one
a b B Homebuilt system
February 5, 2013 1:35:45 AM

The FX-6300 will last and it's not that expensive.
February 5, 2013 1:56:01 AM

im going to do some looking into a fx-6300 or x4 975 build and post back here with it tomorrow. Would one of the FX-4000's be somewhere inbetween the 6300 and the X4 975?
a b B Homebuilt system
February 5, 2013 2:01:53 AM

i'd get the FX-6300 in ncix for 130$.
The FX-4300 is just 7$ less, the FX-6300 is a good option.
Remember of going with a decent motherboard whatever the cpu.
a b B Homebuilt system
February 5, 2013 2:02:03 AM

Maxitout said:
im going to do some looking into a fx-6300 or x4 975 build and post back here with it tomorrow. Would one of the FX-4000's be somewhere inbetween the 6300 and the X4 975?


Yep. Look into the 4300 if you go this route (Piledriver architecture).
a b B Homebuilt system
February 5, 2013 2:12:01 AM

The FX-4300 is at $123.79, the FX-6300 is at 129.99$ in ncix.com with also free shipping.
In my opinion it's worth the extra ~6$.
February 5, 2013 11:39:56 PM

So Ive done some digging and still can't find anything that seems worthwhile for under $600 with a descrete graphic card. so heres what i think is the best of what i did find.
AMD Phenom II X4 965 No fan OEM $74.96
Thermaltake CLP0600 CPU cooler $9.99
Or i could go with the Retail box Edition of X4 965 $94.99
MotherBoard GIGABYTE GA-970A-DS3 $64.99
Video Card HIS Radeon HD 7750 Silence H775FN1G $104.99
Memmory (2x4GB)Patriot Viper 3 Extreme PV38G160C9K $46.12
Case ULTRA XBlaster Pro U12-42350 $29.99
Power Supply Thermaltake SP-530P $67.66
HDD Toshiba HDKPC03 DT01ACA100 1TB $59.99
Lite-On IHAS124-04 Internal DVD Writer $17.99
Windows 7 HP $99.99
Total $631.71/ OEM CPU
$641.71/ RETAIL CPU

What could i skimp on to bring the price down under ~$580 is about as high as I'd like to go
February 6, 2013 12:13:41 AM

On another Note. If I asked for someone to come up with a system for $550-600 max, with components that were Top of the line for 2010/2011 what would you guys suggest??
a b B Homebuilt system
February 6, 2013 12:20:44 AM

It's difficult to get a better cpu or gpu with 550-600$, with os included.
You should ditch the psu for the antec here mentioned, it was made by seasonic, it's at 40$ with promo code : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Also see if you can get the 7770 or the 650 ti which is better than the 7750.

This is what i could do with under 600$ :

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 975 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor ($82.18 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI 970A-G46 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($74.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: Galaxy GeForce GTX 650 Ti 1GB Video Card ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Gamma Classic (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($33.67 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Antec Neo Eco 520W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($16.98 @ Outlet PC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Other: Patriot Viper 3 8GB 2X4GB PC3-12800 DDR3-1600 9-9-9-24 1.5V Dual Channel Memory Kit ($37.99)
Other: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 7200RPM 64MB SATA 6Gbps ($69.99)
Total: $565.75
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

The hdd here : http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=65701&vpn=ST1000DM003&... +
ram : http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=74758&promoid=1292
Which totals 100$, hence you get free shipping in ncix us.
The nzxt is a cheap, but solid case, but if you don't like the looks of it, there're other cases.
Like this one : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
February 6, 2013 12:34:34 AM

djangoringo said:
It's difficult to get a better cpu or gpu with 550-600$, with os included.
You should ditch the psu for the antec here mentioned, it was made by seasonic, it's at 40$ with promo code : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Also see if you can get the 7770 or the 650 ti which is better than the 7750.

This is what i could do with under 600$ :

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 975 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor ($82.18 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI 970A-G46 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($74.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: Galaxy GeForce GTX 650 Ti 1GB Video Card ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Gamma Classic (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($33.67 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Antec Neo Eco 520W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($16.98 @ Outlet PC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Other: Patriot Viper 3 8GB 2X4GB PC3-12800 DDR3-1600 9-9-9-24 1.5V Dual Channel Memory Kit ($37.99)
Other: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 7200RPM 64MB SATA 6Gbps ($69.99)
Total: $565.75
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

The hdd here : http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=65701&vpn=ST1000DM003&... +
ram : http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=74758&promoid=1292
Which totals 100$, hence you get free shipping in ncix us.
The nzxt is a cheap, but solid case, but if you don't like the looks of it, there're other cases.
Like this one : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

is the Phenom II X4 965 alot less cpu than the 975 or would it be close?
February 13, 2013 10:17:16 AM

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