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February 5, 2013 1:27:18 AM

Hi guys. Im planning on building my first PC. I will be mainly using it for gaming while my wife will be using it for photo editing for her photography business. Here is the list of the components i was thinking of putting in along with a link to the item and the current price. I want to stay around the $2000 mark. Any thought or suggestions would be most welcome. Thanks!

Computer Case
COOLER MASTER CM Storm Scout 2 SGC-2100-KWN1 All Midnight Black Appearance: Polymer, Coated Steel Mesh and Body ATX Mid Tower Computer Case

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Price: 79.99

Motherboard (8 memory slots)
ASUS P9X79 PRO LGA 2011 Intel X79 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard with USB BIOS

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Price: $319.99

Intel Processor (Corei7 3960)
Intel Core i7-3820 Sandy Bridge-E 3.6GHz (3.8GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 2011 130W Quad-Core Desktop Processor

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Price: $299.99

Memory (DDR3)
Crucial Ballistix 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1866 (PC3 14900) Desktop Memory Model BLE2KIT8G3D1869DE1TX0

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Price: $128.99

Operating System

(64) Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 64-bit – OEM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Price: $139.99

Cooling System

CORSAIR CWCH60 Hydro Series H60 High Performance Liquid CPU Cooler

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Price: $63.99

Power Supply (Over 700w)

CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V v2.2 SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Price: $109.99

Primary Hard Drive (SSD over 200GB)

SAMSUNG 830 Series MZ-7PC256D/AM 2.5" 256GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=20-147-...

Price: $219.99

Date Drive (2TB or more)

Western Digital WD Black WD2002FAEX 2TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Price: $179.99

Optical Drive (BluRay RW)

LG Black 14X BD-R 2X BD-RE 16X DVD+R 5X DVD-RAM 12X BD-ROM 4MB Cache SATA BDXL Blu-ray Burner, Bare Drive, 3D Play Back (WH14NS40) – OEM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Price: $69.99

Video Card

EVGA 02G-P4-3660-KR GeForce GTX 660 Ti 2GB 192-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI

http://www.newegg.com/EVGA-Desktop-Graphics-Cards/Brand...

Price: $299.99

Sound Card

Creative Sound Blaster Audigy SE 7.1 Channels 24-bit 96KHz PCI Interface Sound Card - OEM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Price: $26.99

Keyboard
Don’t Need Right Now

Mouse
Don’t Need Right Now

Monitor
Don’t need Right Now

Speakers
Don’t need Right Now

Total Price: $1939.88 as of 01/28/13

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February 5, 2013 2:55:15 AM

going for the gusto on the first build eh? :)  looks nice, let me tear it apart lol. jkjk, but still here's a couple comments...

bah...splurge a bit and get the gtx 670. you'll be so happy you did, bumps it up to 256 bit.

and he's getting the expensive mobo cuz he wants the 8 ram slots, which could be useful for a ridonkulously hardcore photoshop build. i guess.

and yeah, the cheap sound card is an interesting addition lol. wouldn't suggest it honestly, if you insist then maybe a xonar dg would be better.

good build though, good luck!
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February 5, 2013 3:02:36 AM

Does your wife need CUDA for the programs she is running? If not, I would go for a 7950.
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February 5, 2013 3:08:37 AM

lt_dan_zsu said:
Does your wife need CUDA for the programs she is running? If not, I would go for a 7950.


how come?
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February 5, 2013 5:14:34 AM

Seems like a bit too much mobo, you have 8 RAM slots, yet not the memory to put in them, and you could use a bit of that money towards video card update. Why not dial it back a bit:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Should go together just as well, and save money to actually populate a few more of those memory slots (get a few, promo puts them at $80 per 16GB):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Also, drop the sound card, use that money to bump up to a gtx 670
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February 5, 2013 4:11:49 PM

Thanks guys. I was doing the 8 slots for future expansion. I guess i can do the other board with more memory now, never thought of that. As for the graphics card, ill see that big of a difference with a GTX 670? Also, should i add fans to the case? I have limited case space. It needs to fit into a space of about 21 inches so my choices are limited. Oh, and on board sound is good? I havent had a new computer in about 7 years and back then you pretty much needed the dedicated sound card. Not so now?
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February 5, 2013 6:18:09 PM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($319.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($80.76 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD3H ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($148.98 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LP 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($99.98 @ Outlet PC)
Storage: Kingston HyperX 3K 240GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($181.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($380.98 @ Amazon)
Sound Card: Asus Xonar DX 24-bit 192 KHz Sound Card ($80.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master Storm Stryker (White) ATX Full Tower Case ($127.49 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: XFX 750W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($124.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $1744.11
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-02-05 15:15 EST-0500)

- i completely disagree with the choice of the i7-3820 for gaming and just some photo editing , i mean the i7 3770K can do this without a sweat , and it is also a nice future proof for atleast 2 years.

- 750W is a way overkill for this build i dont know why you want it , xfx 550w can run this system with np but i had put a nice one anyway , and just clearing a point to you the psu reach its max efficiency when it is 70% or 75% under load not using only 40% of its power.

- also the sound card isnt needed for your needs , the HD integrated graphics is nice , but i also included a better one in my build.
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February 5, 2013 7:37:41 PM

I never heard of Part Picker, that website is awesome. Saved a few hundred dollars on the same parts. If i was going to upgrade the graphics card from the GTX 670 what would you recommend? Here is what i have so far. Some changes made based on your suggestions. Thanks guys.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks CPU: Intel Core i7-3820 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.99 @ Microcenter) CPU Cooler: Corsair H60 74.4 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($49.99 @ Newegg) Motherboard: ASRock X79 Extreme6 ATX LGA2011 Motherboard ($189.99 @ Newegg) Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($80.00 @ Newegg) Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($80.00 @ Newegg) Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($157.99 @ Adorama) Storage: Samsung 830 Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($197.28 @ TigerDirect) Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($380.98 @ Amazon) Case: Cooler Master Storm Scout 2 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ Microcenter) Power Supply: XFX 750W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($124.99 @ Amazon) Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($16.98 @ Outlet PC) Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC) Total: $1678.16 (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.) (Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-02-05 16:39 EST-0500)
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February 5, 2013 7:58:45 PM

Here is my two cents on the build, dlesko.

1. The 3820 @ Microcenter is in-store pickup only. Look to pay around $300 for it unless you live near a microcenter.
2. You don't need a liquid cooling system because you can't overclock that CPU. If you are really worried about heat, go with the Cooler Master 212 EVO. If you do want to overclock (and stick with the i7, get the 3770k).
3. There is no way in the world you need 32GB of RAM for a gaming/photoediting build. 16GB will be more than enough.
4. If you plan to SLI the 670 in the future, stick with the 750W PSU. If you don't plan to SLI, 550W will be enough (600W if you want to overclock with the 3770).
5. Black edition HDDs are overpriced and overrated. They provide no performance increase and have a slightly higher reliability factor.

If you really want 4 cores with hyperthreading, the Xeon might be the way to go.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1230 V2 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($233.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Pro3 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: GeIL EVO Veloce Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($79.98 @ Outlet PC)
Storage: Samsung 830 Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($197.28 @ TigerDirect)
Storage: Toshiba 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($380.98 @ Amazon)
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case ($64.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: SeaSonic G 550W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($16.98 @ Outlet PC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $1354.14
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-02-05 16:56 EST-0500)

Not trying to be condescending but you can achieve the same performance for much less. It is your call though as these are my opinions and observations.

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February 5, 2013 8:13:17 PM

Here's my take on it. Though, cball has provided me with quality information, I'm wondering why the xeon? Anyway, if you don't live near a microcenter this build will cost you an extra $100, if you live near a microcenter, it'll save you $50 more (instant) if you buy before 2/10. Items to buy at microcenter(if able) in this build: CPU, MOBO, Cooler, Case.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($248.38 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($32.66 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme6 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($139.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LP 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($226.99 @ Mac Mall)
Storage: Toshiba 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($157.27 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 670 4GB Video Card ($423.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 w/Window (Titanium Grey) ATX Mid Tower Case ($107.98 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: SeaSonic G 550W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($16.98 @ Outlet PC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $1624.19
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-02-05 17:26 EST-0500)

Edit: forgot optical drive
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February 5, 2013 8:39:16 PM

dlesko said:
I never heard of Part Picker, that website is awesome. Saved a few hundred dollars on the same parts. If i was going to upgrade the graphics card from the GTX 670 what would you recommend? Here is what i have so far. Some changes made based on your suggestions. Thanks guys.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks CPU: Intel Core i7-3820 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.99 @ Microcenter) CPU Cooler: Corsair H60 74.4 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($49.99 @ Newegg) Motherboard: ASRock X79 Extreme6 ATX LGA2011 Motherboard ($189.99 @ Newegg) Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($80.00 @ Newegg) Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($80.00 @ Newegg) Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($157.99 @ Adorama) Storage: Samsung 830 Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($197.28 @ TigerDirect) Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($380.98 @ Amazon) Case: Cooler Master Storm Scout 2 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ Microcenter) Power Supply: XFX 750W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($124.99 @ Amazon) Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($16.98 @ Outlet PC) Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC) Total: $1678.16 (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.) (Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-02-05 16:39 EST-0500)


hahhaa i like the way , that you took all my words and throw it to the sea lol
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February 5, 2013 9:14:32 PM

I went with the Xeon because it is an 8 core (4+4 hyperthreaded) CPU that is much less than the i7s. It can't be overclocked but is good for multipurpose machines that can utilize 8 cores and still be at a reasonable price.
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February 5, 2013 10:46:03 PM

@dlesko - Seems you have a couple builds to look at, and significantly cheaper that your $2k budget. Also, I'll note, better than your original build (no offense intended). I'm pretty sure you could interchange cball and my options to get costs down. Though, making sure to keep the MOBO and CPU paired as they're built, and you obviously don't need a cooler on his.
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February 5, 2013 11:13:13 PM

Hi, I think it would be better off with 2 builds rather than one. It's going to be hard to share one computer especially when you're gaming and your wife is doing emergency business stuff. (Trust me, I know.)

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock H77 Pro4/MVP ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($79.98 @ Outlet PC)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($43.98 @ Outlet PC)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($75.00 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($89.95 @ Adorama)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7870 2GB Video Card ($239.99 @ Microcenter)
Case: NZXT Source 220 ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Antec Neo Eco 520W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHOS104-06 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Drive ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $933.84
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-02-05 20:00 EST-0500)

And this is for your wife.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock 970 PRO3 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($77.55 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($43.98 @ Outlet PC)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($75.00 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($89.95 @ Adorama)
Video Card: MSI Radeon HD 7770 GHz Edition 1GB Video Card ($96.99 @ Microcenter)
Case: NZXT Source 220 ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Antec Neo Eco 520W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHOS104-06 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Drive ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Hannspree HL229DPB 21.5" Monitor ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Keyboard: Logitech MK120 Wired Slim Keyboard w/Optical Mouse ($16.89 @ Amazon)
Total: $835.29
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-02-05 20:11 EST-0500)

Don't get the Xeon CPU. it's not for consumer and you will have a lot of problems in the long run. :) 

The first build I posted will have no problems running almost all games at ultra. :) 
The second one is for your wife and it will have zero problems doing photography stuff and it can easily game as well not as good as the first but most games at high.
Have a good one, dude.

You don't need a sound card, the motherboard has a built in one.
Also, you don't need a cooler if you're not gonna OC and the stock cooler that comes with the CPU will be just fine.
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February 5, 2013 11:25:16 PM

cutebeans said:


Don't get the Xeon CPU. it's not for consumer and you will have a lot of problems in the long run. :) 



Give me one problem with the Xeon processor for gaming or productivity. I am eager to know considering it is about $100 cheaper than an i7 3770. Just because they are labeled "server" processors doesn't mean that they wont go right into a Z77 board and be just fine if you need the best of both worlds.
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February 5, 2013 11:43:54 PM

cball1311 said:
Give me one problem with the Xeon processor for gaming or productivity. I am eager to know considering it is about $100 cheaper than an i7 3770. Just because they are labeled "server" processors doesn't mean that they wont go right into a Z77 board and be just fine if you need the best of both worlds.


no IGP and the fact it's called a server motherboard.
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February 5, 2013 11:49:38 PM

@cutebeans

Why would you not suggest an IPS monitor for the wife? Superior for the application, hands down. This might be $50 more, but for someone doing photography it is probably the most justified $50 in the build.

Why not the Sapphire 7870 XT for $5 more, when it uses the Tahiti (7900series) core? Superior option for $5.

Not a terrible idea to build two PCs. I'd consider raising the budget to $2500 and sinking the extra into the business PC, if going that route though.

Edit: How does IGP have anything to do with a PC that has a $400 GPU in it?

"fact it's called a server motherboard"? Did you mean CPU.. because I'm fairly certain the MOBO he listed supports the Xeon he paired with it. And even being a server CPU, means what exactly? Makes sense to me.... save a little money and still get the benefits of HT... provided not OC'ing.
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February 6, 2013 12:15:54 AM

eyeage said:
@cutebeans

Why would you not suggest an IPS monitor for the wife? Superior for the application, hands down. This might be $50 more, but for someone doing photography it is probably the most justified $50 in the build.

Why not the Sapphire 7870 XT for $5 more, when it uses the Tahiti (7900series) core? Superior option for $5.

Not a terrible idea to build two PCs. I'd consider raising the budget to $2500 and sinking the extra into the business PC, if going that route though.

Edit: How does IGP have anything to do with a PC that has a $400 GPU in it?

"fact it's called a server motherboard"? Did you mean CPU.. because I'm fairly certain the MOBO he listed supports the Xeon he paired with it. And even being a server CPU, means what exactly? Makes sense to me.... save a little money and still get the benefits of HT... provided not OC'ing.


Hi, good point on the IPS monitor. :)  I was trying to cut costs since I thought it was going for under $2k.

Not going to lie to you but I'm still skeptical about the XT version. Why are there only 2 manufacturers of the XT(powercolor and sapphire), it's really new. Although, I can see your point :) . It being better.

Hi, IGP is really important especially when your GPU is faulty. I have had times that my GPU would have problems and die. ( luckily, still in warranty)

For me, it's a must have. You don't have to buy a new card just to use the computer and you don't have to wait for the RMA services so just you can use your PC.

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February 6, 2013 12:31:18 AM

cutebeans said:

Not going to lie to you but I'm still skeptical about the XT version. Why are there only 2 manufacturers of the XT(powercolor and sapphire), it's really new. Although, I can see your point :) . It being better.

It's a new card, would be my guess. Until just recently it was only the powercolor (which I wouldn't have gotten), but sapphire... yeah.. especially when it's benchmarking extremely well. Time will tell, however, like anything else.

cutebeans said:

For me, it's a must have. You don't have to buy a new card just to use the computer and you don't have to wait for the RMA services so just you can use your PC.

Not unreasonable. To that I would say this: "If" you would need it, doesn't really justify spending the extra money, especially when you could buy a cheap GPU to get you through the RMA process (and then return it afterwards, but we would never do that... :o  ).

Xeon: $239
i7 $289
i7K $319
Cheap GPU: $25

So, seems silly to pay double for something you might not even use... An argument could be made for the convenience I suppose, but it wouldn't be a great one.
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February 6, 2013 12:39:24 AM

Corsair H60..LOVED mine...make sure to pick up another 120mm fan for push/pull..actually pick up to with high pressure and lower noise..those fans that they come with are loud....do 2x120mm! I have had an H60, H80, H100...They all seem to perform very closely...I like the H80 myself.

GTX660ti is a solid card but I would agree to go with a 670..and if ya can afford it a 4GB model with help future proof it for a bit as games are now using almost 2GB @1080p and some use more dpending on settings and what game.
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February 6, 2013 12:39:55 AM

Yeah, but it's like packing up a spare tire on your car or emergency rations at camp.

You might not need it but it's always nice for you to have so that you have peace of mind.

Also, the most he should be getting is an i5-3570k. No need for HT.

Hope I explained my choice well. :D 
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February 6, 2013 1:00:08 AM

If its just photoshop you're planning on using, or any kind of photo editing programs, you will be able to get away with using a Radeon card for cheaper higher performance, if she starts using more graphical design programs she would benefit more from the CUDA in Nvidia gpu's. I work in graphics design myself and I manage to get by in even Intermediate 3D modelling on a roughly $1500 PC I built myself. Living in america I'd say you could get the same system for a lot cheaper than myself in Australia.
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February 6, 2013 1:18:26 AM

cutebeans said:
Yeah, but it's like packing up a spare tire on your car or emergency rations at camp.

You might not need it but it's always nice for you to have so that you have peace of mind.

Also, the most he should be getting is an i5-3570k. No need for HT.

Hope I explained my choice well. :D 


I think that he does need HT if he is going to share the rig with his wife who would definitely see a benefit in photo editing.
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February 6, 2013 1:21:47 AM

Not really. Photo editing won't see much benefit from HT.

3d Rendering is a different case though.

The 6 core FX would do wonders for what his wife plans to do.
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February 6, 2013 2:33:43 AM

cutebeans said:
Not really. Photo editing won't see much benefit from HT.

3d Rendering is a different case though.

The 6 core FX would do wonders for what his wife plans to do.



I don't know. She could. As, photoshop and other suites can make use of HT. How much? I don't know, but I do know they will make use of the most efficient process, including HT. Hard to say really, but for the price point, I don't know why you wouldn't get it.
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February 6, 2013 5:00:48 AM

eah but FX is a no go for gaming...its ok for now but I would imagine its not gonna keep up in the next year playing ultra settings...
As fo photoshop...3570k i5 is moe than enough...when I did photoshop on my i5 ig....no matte what I was doing...it was click and done...no waiting.
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February 6, 2013 8:04:47 AM

The only FX I recommend is the FX-6300. Others are not worth the money.

It's pretty good with gaming too. :) 

HT is pretty much over rated here in Toms.
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February 6, 2013 1:06:13 PM

Thanks for all the replies guys. I have to admit, im totally confused now :) . Half of what you guys are talking about makes no sense to me........Gonna have to start doing some research. :) 
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February 6, 2013 2:45:07 PM

dlesko said:
Thanks for all the replies guys. I have to admit, im totally confused now :) . Half of what you guys are talking about makes no sense to me........Gonna have to start doing some research. :) 


Research never hurts, well.. it can... but not if you know how to do it. Make sure you use quality sites. I think cutebeans was dead on with the 2 PC build idea, though I would build them slightly different. If you can push the $2k to $2.5k, you can get two fairly awesome systems that will last you 5 years or more.

Here's some things to remember:

For gaming, an i5-3750k is as much as you need. If you don't plan to overclock(make it run faster than factory specs), then the i5-3470 will perform just as well at stock. If you plan to overclock, you will need a CPU/Motherboard that will allow it, and you'll need a cooling system. Air is fine for cooling, and the evo 212 is a good product for $33.

For gaming, you'll want a TN panel monitor (it has faster response times), but for photography work, and IPS monitor will be far superior.

You don't need a sound card

A quality power supply is the foundation of your system. Spending a little extra there (not on "watts" but on quality) is worth it. You won't need 750w on either system, most likely 500-550 will be enough for both.

A case matters, but only a little. It is probably one of the hardest decisions, honestly.

Video cards start to see diminishing returns around $300. Either brand is good, each have their +/-.

When looking at motherboards, it's ok to be less than $150. There are a lot of options, depending on the processor you use.

RAM is mostly RAM unless you plan to overclock it. 8Gb is enough for gaming, but I'd get 16Gb for the photo one.

SSDs are the best thing to load your OS on (and the current game/s you're playing).

When you're ready, I'm sure you can get some really nice systems for you both. With new monitor for the wife, can get some 5+ year systems for around $1000 each. We're always ready to shove our opinions at you.... lol... Here's a hint, however, if you see multiple people suggest the same thing, it generally means good things.

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