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February 5, 2013 3:24:10 AM

Approximate Purchase Date: Within the next 2 weeks


Budget Range: $600


System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, General tasks


Are you buying a monitor: No


Parts to Upgrade: all


Do you need to buy OS: No


Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Newegg, Amazon


Location: Milwaukee, WI


Parts Preferences: None


Overclocking: Maybe


SLI or Crossfire: No


Your Monitor Resolution: 1440x900

The two builds i have as of now:

Build 1:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i3-3220 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor ($123.79 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock Z75 Pro3 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($84.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair XMS3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($41.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7850 1GB Video Card ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master Elite 430 ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Antec Neo Eco 520W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $558.72
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-02-05 00:23 EST-0500)

Build 2:

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CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($133.79 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI 970A-G46 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($74.98 @ Outlet PC)
Memory: Corsair XMS3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($41.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7850 1GB Video Card ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master Elite 430 ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Antec Neo Eco 520W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $558.71
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-02-05 00:23 EST-0500)

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February 5, 2013 3:31:02 AM

Though choice, ain't it ?
Both will run good, both cpus will not bottleneck the 7850, you might want the FX-6300, though.
Instead i'm going to say, where you can get cheaper ram and both cpus in ncix :

I3 : http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=75429&promoid=1292
FX-6300 : http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=76934&promoid=1292

And the ram : http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=74758&promoid=1292

Another option is this : http://pcpartpicker.com/p/BA3L

With the ram and the 7850 in ncix, and the i5-3350p, which is a better cpu than all of those two above.
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February 5, 2013 3:35:54 AM

Hmm I'd go for the AMD build. Those extra cores will come in handy for Photoshop or some other program that can actually utilize all 6. I don't think it will bottleneck your 7850 in games.
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February 5, 2013 4:03:40 AM

Try this out!

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CPU: Intel Pentium G860 3.0GHz Dual-Core Processor ($68.76 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Pro3 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($48.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7870 XT 2GB Video Card ($244.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Antec Neo Eco 520W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $595.69
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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or AMD version

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CPU: AMD Athlon II X4 640 3.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($72.74 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock 970 PRO3 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($77.55 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($48.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7870 XT 2GB Video Card ($244.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Antec Neo Eco 520W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $587.23
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-02-05 00:59 EST-0500)

Either one will do well for it's intended purpose. The Intel build you can upgrade your CPU up to 3570k if you feel you need more CPU power later and the AMD side you can upgrade to ???? The future CPU's for AMD's side is unknown, but could possibly be better, but that is hard to say at this point. You might have to have a 990 FX based Mobo to get the latest AMD CPU's in a year time frame, but who knows?

Pro/Cons
* Intel build at price supports Front USB 3.0 ports for the Corsair 200 Case!
* Intel build only 2 cores (if that matters)

* AMD build has 4 core CPU, which might make a difference to some of your applications.
* AMD Mobo doesn't support Front USB 3.0 ports, but if your upgrade to 990 FX based Mobo you can have that option and might also have more upgrade path than the Intel build.
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February 5, 2013 4:11:04 AM

Yeah, No thanks, If i was going to go Uber cheap on the processor, I would have put in a Phenom II X4 965BE.
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February 5, 2013 4:38:44 AM

Can't go wrong with either. They are both excellent builds. Personally, my vote goes towards AMD. I would much rather have the extra cores. The two processors perform virtually the same; the FX 6300 actually performs a bit better in games.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/699?vs=677

Sift through the above benchmarks and look for Skyrim and Diablo. You'll notice the FX 6300 gains quite a few FPS. Also, the FX 6300 can be overclocked.

Not sure why people are trying to sacrifice so much CPU power in order to get a HD 7870 in there. It's truly not needed for his resolution. At 1440x900, the HD 7850 is more than sufficient to run any game out there on ultra settings.

If you have any questions, feel free to ask. Good luck!
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February 5, 2013 4:50:42 AM

I didn't see the resolution, but at 1440x900, it's not worth paying more for the 7870, the original 7850 will do.
@ op, just try to get the ram, and the cpus in ncix and save a few bucks.
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February 5, 2013 4:56:41 AM

I put in the 7870 as an option, because a lot of people are upgrading to 1920 x 1080 resolution monitors (especially since you can get them around $100 now). So if he upgrades to a 1080p resolution monitor and wants to keep good gaming going, the added GPU power will help. I also dropped down on the CPU to make the budget, but going up to the Phenom II x4 965/975 would be a bonus for ~$25-30 more. Obviously the FX 6300 will perform better, but it's up to the OP if they want to spend more on the CPU now or upgrade later.
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February 5, 2013 4:59:49 AM

Yeah, I'm just trying to get a PC that was made in this decade, This is my current so called "PC"


Processor: AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4400+ (2.3 GHz)
Memory : (RAM) 2.00 GB (DDR2)
Graphics : AMD RADEON HD 6450
Gaming graphics: 1791 MB Total available graphics memory
Primary hard disk: 25GB Free (145GB Total)

As for resolution, I also have a 1080p HDTV that will only display at 1360x768 for some reason.

Also, Wouldn't the Pentium/Athlon bottleneck the GPU?
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February 5, 2013 5:03:23 AM

I understand where your coming from. My thought was to skimp a bit on the CPU now and upgrade it later, when/if you want to. Both CPU's should be fine with the GPU and should be alright with gaming on the 7870, but it's up to you. I just don't like to have too much of a lopsided gaming build where the CPU is a bit much compared to the GPU, but to each his own.
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February 5, 2013 5:04:43 AM

The 7870 XT is more balanced with an i3 or a fx-6300, if you have a 1080p hdtv, it might be worth the extra for the 7870 XT, if you can fit it in either of your original builds.
If not, a 7850 is still a good card for it, and you'll get the two games that comes with it anyway.
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February 5, 2013 5:05:14 AM

Yup, a HD 7870 would help if the OP plans on upgrading his monitor. The HD 7850 would still be able to hold its own at 1920x1080 on high-ultra settings.

@OP If you plan on playing Battlefield 3, I would definitely consider the FX 6300. BF3 multiplayer loves all the cores it can get. You may run into limitations and performance loss in BF3 with a dual core CPU...or at least that's what I've heard and been told by quite a few people on here.
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February 5, 2013 5:09:32 AM

DeusAres said:
Yup, a HD 7870 would help if the OP plans on upgrading his monitor. The HD 7850 would still be able to hold its own at 1920x1080 on high-ultra settings.

@OP If you plan on playing Battlefield 3, I would definitely consider the FX 6300. BF3 multiplayer loves all the cores it can get. You may run into limitations and performance loss in BF3 with a dual core CPU...or at least that's what I've heard and been told by quite a few people on here.



As far as games go, Most of the time i would be playing BF3, Skyrim, NBA2kxx, Minecraft, Emulation, ect
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February 5, 2013 5:11:19 AM

Personally I would go with a 990 FX based mobo for ~$115-130 and the FX 6300, if I was going to stick with the AMD build. Then just use the 7850 GPU and upgrade the GPU down the road when/if you think you need more GPU power. It's up to you on which way you want to go.
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February 5, 2013 5:14:56 AM

What's the difference between the 970 and 990 mobos?
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February 5, 2013 5:17:07 AM

lunyone said:
Personally I would go with a 990 FX based mobo for ~$115-130 and the FX 6300, if I was going to stick with the AMD build. Then just use the 7850 GPU and upgrade the GPU down the road when/if you think you need more GPU power. It's up to you on which way you want to go.

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I would suggest this one...

ASRock 990FX Extreme3
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I keep hearing mixed ideas concerning the 970 chipset mobos. Some say it won't support Vishera out of the box; it requires a BIOS update. And then others say it'll be fine. I'm not sure what to believe.
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February 5, 2013 5:20:45 AM

The msi motherboard supports any amd FX cpu.
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February 5, 2013 5:24:55 AM

I see. Well, then I would just stick with the cheaper MSI board. No need to spend more money. Plus, the MSI board supports SLI/Crossfire and USB 3.0. =D

I may actually consider that board for my upcoming build. I thought I was going to have to buy a more expensive 990FX motherboard.
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February 5, 2013 5:32:34 AM

AMD build. Locked hyper-threaded dual core vs OC-friendly, hyper-threaded triple core.

Unless you can somehow squeeze an i5, I just don't think your returns on an i3 are worth it ($170 after promo):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I like how you got those two within a penny of each other.
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February 5, 2013 5:33:51 AM

Okay tweaked the build to get you a 990 FX based mobo into the build. The 990 FX based mobo's support front USB 3.0 ports for any Case that has front USB 3.0 ports (which the Corsair 200 that I've listed has)!

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Biostar TA990FXE ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($48.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI Radeon HD 7850 2GB Video Card ($179.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Antec Neo Eco 520W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $601.92
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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Forgot to mention that the CPU and Mobo have a combo price, so that is reflected in the final price :)  I also selected a 2 gb GPU, so you have a bit of room for higher resolutions. If not you can save ~$20 with a 1 gb card.

$191 - $15 MIRc = $166
SAPPHIRE 100355-1GOCL Radeon HD 7850 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card OC Version
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February 5, 2013 2:27:24 PM

I'm not exactly counting on the rebates working, At that price (Before Rebates) i could get this i5 build for ~$40 more

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($223.79 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock Z75 Pro3 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($84.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair XMS3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($41.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7850 1GB Video Card ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master Elite 430 ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Antec Neo Eco 520W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $664.92
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-02-05 11:26 EST-0500)
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February 5, 2013 2:44:53 PM

That would work. I was trying to fit you into the $600 budget that you said that you had. The i5 3570k build would be better, IMHO, but if you want the AMD build you can have it for a bit less. It's up to you.
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February 5, 2013 3:57:27 PM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock H77 Pro4/MVP ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($79.98 @ Outlet PC)
Memory: Corsair 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($73.49 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7850 1GB Video Card ($164.99 @ Newegg)
Case: MSI TC- (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($27.99 @ Microcenter)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($16.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $598.41
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-02-05 12:56 EST-0500)


Within budget and an i5 :D 
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February 5, 2013 4:18:23 PM

What's the difference between the 3570 and the 3350 other than clock speed?
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February 5, 2013 4:20:47 PM

The i5-3350p doesn't have the on die gpu(intel hd 2500), it has a lower power consumption because of that, since you have a discrete card, it's a good option to take in consideration, i don't think you'll be using the intel hd graphics.
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February 5, 2013 4:22:28 PM

Yeah, Even if the GPU arrives 2 weeks after everything else i have a 6450 that i could use, That is apparently bottlenecked right now on this processor.
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February 7, 2013 12:15:31 AM

When you say the build won't support USB 3.0 will it at least support 2.0? All of my devices are connected by USB 2.0.
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February 7, 2013 1:00:24 AM

notoriousdook said:
When you say the build won't support USB 3.0 will it at least support 2.0? All of my devices are connected by USB 2.0.

If your referring to the Front USB 3.0 ports on the front of the case, you will be fine. USB 3.0 ports are backwards compatible to USB 2.0/USB 1.1.
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February 7, 2013 6:38:50 PM

Sorry I'm pretty new to computers and everything. So if I were to stick a USB 2.0 flash drive in a front USB 3.0 port it would still work?
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February 7, 2013 6:43:26 PM

It will work, it will function at 2.0 speeds.
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February 16, 2013 11:57:42 PM

Best answer selected by pepsiwithcoke.
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