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December 21, 2012 11:01:19 AM

Processor: AMD Athlon II X4 635
PSU: eXtreme Power Plus 500W (RS-500-PCAR-A3)
Current GPU: ATI Radeon HD5450
RAM: Corsair 4GB DDR2

Can/should I upgrade to an HD6670? On a pretty low budget, open to suggestions, looking for something between $50-$100.



Also,
http://www.flipkart.com/sapphire-amd-ati-radeon-hd-6670...

vs.

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

?



P.S. Yes, my rig is pretty old. :p 

[EDIT]
Forgot to mention, this is for WarZ/DayZ(When standalone comes out), LoL, DoTa2, and other games, would prefer to be able to run 1-2 games at the same time with decent FPS. Also, I stream for a friend on TwitchTV occasionally.

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December 21, 2012 11:08:57 AM

Reveliti said:
Processor: AMD Athlon II X4 635
PSU: eXtreme Power Plus 500W (RS-500-PCAR-A3)
Current GPU: ATI Radeon HD5450
RAM: Corsair 4GB DDR2

Can/should I upgrade to an HD6670? On a pretty low budget, open to suggestions, looking for something between $50-$100.



Also,
http://www.flipkart.com/sapphire-amd-ati-radeon-hd-6670...
vs.
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...
?

Was also thinking about http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681... even though it's very old, it's still good right?




P.S. Yes, my rig is pretty old. :p 

[EDIT]
Forgot to mention, this is for WarZ/DayZ(When standalone comes out), LoL, DoTa2, and other games, would prefer to be able to run 1-2 games at the same time with decent FPS. Also, I stream for a friend on TwitchTV occasionally.



[Edit] Sorry double posted as a reply instead of editing, for the 3rd time. :(  New to the forums.
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December 21, 2012 11:09:41 AM

That CM PSU is actually not one of their worst: http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Cooler-Master-eX... which is good, since you won't need to replace it first.
A HD6670 will be a huge difference from a HD5450. Make sure you get one with GDDR5, not DDR3. If there's any wiggle room in your budget, however, a HD7750 (~$105-$110) is a much better choice for games.
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December 21, 2012 11:13:06 AM

Onus said:
That CM PSU is actually not one of their worst: http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Cooler-Master-eX... which is good, since you won't need to replace it first.
A HD6670 will be a huge difference from a HD5450. Make sure you get one with GDDR5, not DDR3. If there's any wiggle room in your budget, however, a HD7750 (~$105-$110) is a much better choice for games.


Would it matter which HD7750 I get? Like http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681... seeing as it's right in my budget range?
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December 21, 2012 11:30:15 AM

BigMack70 said:
If your budget extends closer to $100, the 7770 is the way to go:
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

It's significantly more powerful than any of the other cards mentioned so far.


Do you think it's really necessary though? Or is it more of a luxury? Like 5-10fps more maybe? Or is it like, over the top, like 20-30fps more? Looking at what I'm going to be using it for, would I really need it?
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December 21, 2012 12:07:48 PM

The HD7770 is indeed more powerful, and is what I'd choose if I could afford it. If not, the HD7750 will be satisfactory.
Having played some of the same games on all three, the jump from a HD6670 to a HD7750 is a LOT more meaningful in terms of higher settings and playability than the jump from a HD7750 to a HD7770. The settings required to get playable FPS are visibly less immersive on a HD6670 than on either of the others.
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December 21, 2012 12:53:39 PM

Reveliti said:
Do you think it's really necessary though? Or is it more of a luxury? Like 5-10fps more maybe? Or is it like, over the top, like 20-30fps more? Looking at what I'm going to be using it for, would I really need it?


It will be quite a bit faster. At what point this becomes "overkill" is quite subjective really. Read the benchmarks and get a feel for the difference and decide from there.

The way I see it, if I'm dropping a non-insignificant amount of cash on a bit of hardware, do I really want to get something that's just "good enough"? What about the "games of tomorrow"?

No, IMHO it's better to push for something which will be a little future proof. You're already spending a fair bit of money, so it's better to maximise the returns.

All depends on how long you'd like this new hardware to last before another upgrade, really. To be honest, we've had a really good few years of it because the technical evolution of humanity itself modern games are being held back by the atrociously outdated console industry. :ange: 

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December 21, 2012 2:20:19 PM

BigMack70 said:
...the 7750 is a waste of money because it's overpriced compared to the 7750...


Um...please clarify.
Regardless of the relative horsepower required, I've found that going from Low to Medium settings makes games relatively more enjoyable than going from Medium to High settings. Someone who really preferred AA may disagree, so keep that in mind, but in this context, that's why I believe going from a HD6670 to a HD7750 is more significant than going from a HD7750 to a HD7770. Let your budget decide. If you can get a HD7770 for only $20 more than a HD7750, that does seem to make the most sense though.
Edit: I do agree with CrArC though. If you can get a little more than you need right now, any pressure to upgrade quickly pretty much goes away.


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December 21, 2012 4:41:25 PM

I visited my parents over the last Thanksgiving holiday, and tried playing some GW2 on my father's PC with a HD6670 in it. Most settings were low, and some "better" settings were not even selectable, like higher quality character textures. The game was playable, but FPS was still only in the 25-35 range; this was at 1600x900. Last week, I tried on my test rig (not listed below) which has a HD7750 in it. The higher settings were available and I could choose them, and FPS with the higher settings was probably 35-45, also at 1600x900. The game looked a lot better too.
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December 21, 2012 6:41:35 PM

Onus said:
That CM PSU is actually not one of their worst: http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Cooler-Master-eX... which is good, since you won't need to replace it first.
A HD6670 will be a huge difference from a HD5450. Make sure you get one with GDDR5, not DDR3. If there's any wiggle room in your budget, however, a HD7750 (~$105-$110) is a much better choice for games.


I could make a case for the opposite being true based on that review; just look at the noise & ripple results. That's about as bad as it gets before becoming literally inexcusable. It certainly would limit the potential of any overclocking, and the output efficiency is not where they claim either. I wouldn't even think of going with any GPU that required a dedicated power connector until I got a higher quality PSU.
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December 21, 2012 10:47:07 PM

Oh, I didn't say it was good, oh hell no (it's a CM!), but it isn't one of their worst. That should be fair warning as to how bad they can get. A rig with a HD7770 will likely not pull 300W, so the ripple ought to remain tolerable; not good mind you, but tolerable.
I certainly agree that a better PSU should be the next upgrade item.
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December 25, 2012 5:28:55 AM

Onus said:
Oh, I didn't say it was good, oh hell no (it's a CM!), but it isn't one of their worst. That should be fair warning as to how bad they can get. A rig with a HD7770 will likely not pull 300W, so the ripple ought to remain tolerable; not good mind you, but tolerable.
I certainly agree that a better PSU should be the next upgrade item.


What is so sad about the CM situation when talking about power supplies is that they aren't really that much worse than other budget models, but they are so far below the quality of the products people generally assume Cooler Master sells, they end up selling huge quantities of junk PSU's to trusting consumers. Think about it- they really are no different from Antec. Both brands aren't really manufactures of many of their own products, but Antec at least has the common sense to do quality control on their products to preserve the brand integrity. It isn't like CM would have trouble doing the same- they literally would only have to decide to call up Seasonic or Delta and arrange to sell the units that both companies are already contracted to provide for use by a dozen brand labels. There is zero issue of R&D hurdles here, it's just pure disinterest, and it's steering people away from the brand's other components that are actually more than satisfactory.
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December 25, 2012 1:08:21 PM

That's exactly right. I can forgive exaggeration (all but the best do it), but not the outright lying.
Of course I don't buy cheap Chinese junk; no one with any sense does. Too many people buy CM (or Thermaltake) based on the label though, and don't get what they paid for (and no, I don't think ending a sentence with a preposition is always wrong).

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February 16, 2013 12:58:50 AM

Best answer selected by Reveliti.
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