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First build, need advice!

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February 6, 2013 12:06:57 AM

Approximate Purchase Date: 2-3 days

Budget Range: $400-450 (After shipping/rebates)

System Usage from Most to Least Important: gaming

Are you buying a monitor: No

Parts to Upgrade: CPU/Mobo/GPU/PSU/Memory/Case

Do you need to buy OS: No

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Newegg.com

Location: USA

Parts Preferences: Prefer AMD/Radeon

Overclocking: Maybe

SLI or Crossfire: No

Your Monitor Resolution: 1440 x 900

Additional Comments: Looking to build a pc to play lower end games on ultra such as; WoW, Day z, war z, and possibly some higher end games on lower settings.
I'd like to try to include a radeon 7870 gpu into the build if possible! Thanks!

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February 6, 2013 12:33:53 AM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Pentium G860 3.0GHz Dual-Core Processor ($68.76 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock H61M-DGS Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($44.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Patriot Gamer 2 Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($38.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7770 GHz Edition 1GB Video Card ($104.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($16.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $384.67
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-02-05 21:33 EST-0500)

Hi, this would be best.
February 6, 2013 12:51:18 AM

This goes a bit over the budget, but it has the 7850, which offers two games, bioshock infinite and tomb raider, so it might be worth it.
My suggestion :

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Pentium G860 3.0GHz Dual-Core Processor ($68.76 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI B75MA-E33 Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($52.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT Gamma Classic (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($33.67 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($16.98 @ Outlet PC)
Other: XFX Radeon HD 7850 Core Edition 860MHZ 1GB 4.8GHZ GDDR DVI HDMI 2XMINIDP PCI-E Video Card ($169.99)
Other: Antec Basiq VP450 450W Power Supply ATX12V V2.3 Dual +12V Rail 120MM Fan 80% Efficiency ($30.95)
Other: Patriot Viper 3 8GB 2X4GB PC3-12800 DDR3-1600 9-9-9-24 1.5V Dual Channel Memory Kit ($37.99)
Total: $461.32
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

pcpartpicker is currently bugged, it doesn't show the parts from ncix us.
The card : http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=77797&vpn=FX-785A-ZNL4...
It offers the games, if you care about the rebate, it's 149.99$, which if this includes rebates, it fits the budget, the rest of the parts are as it is, no less and no more.
The psu : http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=62331&vpn=VP450&manufa...
Review of the psu : http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Antec-VP450-Powe...
Ram : http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=74758&promoid=1292

It offers free shipping with 100$ and over in the card.
If you have already an hdd, get the i3-3220 in newegg.
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February 6, 2013 1:04:30 AM

djangoringo said:
This goes a bit over the budget, but it has the 7850, which offers two games, bioshock infinite and tomb raider, so it might be worth it.
My suggestion :

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Pentium G860 3.0GHz Dual-Core Processor ($68.76 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI B75MA-E33 Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($52.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT Gamma Classic (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($33.67 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($16.98 @ Outlet PC)
Other: XFX Radeon HD 7850 Core Edition 860MHZ 1GB 4.8GHZ GDDR DVI HDMI 2XMINIDP PCI-E Video Card ($169.99)
Other: Antec Basiq VP450 450W Power Supply ATX12V V2.3 Dual +12V Rail 120MM Fan 80% Efficiency ($30.95)
Other: Patriot Viper 3 8GB 2X4GB PC3-12800 DDR3-1600 9-9-9-24 1.5V Dual Channel Memory Kit ($37.99)
Total: $461.32
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

pcpartpicker is currently bugged, it doesn't show the parts from ncix us.
The card : http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=77797&vpn=FX-785A-ZNL4...
It offers the games.
The psu : http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=62331&vpn=VP450&manufa...
Review of the psu : http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Antec-VP450-Powe...
Ram : http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=74758&promoid=1292

It offers free shipping with 100$ and over in the card.
If you have already an hdd, get the i3-3220 in newegg.



I'd say it's perfect, powerfull but i'd get the I3-3220 and the 7770 as your resolution (1440X900) don't require any higher than that to play all games and the I3-3220 is really more powerfull than the Pentium G860...
February 6, 2013 1:10:23 AM

That's a good suggestion, but the 7770 can't maxout(with 50 fps or more) the most demanding games(bf3,far cry 3, future crysis 3) at that resolution, the 7850 1GB is a good option, with the two games free, it almost pays off the card.
An e.g for the 7770 :

http://tpucdn.com/reviews/Gigabyte/HD_7770_OC/images/bf...
February 6, 2013 1:14:08 AM

I don't need hdd/optical drive btw guys! So if the money used from those could be used elsewhere it would be great!
February 6, 2013 1:18:10 AM

Get the i3 :

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

Motherboard: MSI B75MA-E33 Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($52.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Gamma Classic (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($33.67 @ Amazon)
Other: XFX Radeon HD 7850 Core Edition 860MHZ 1GB 4.8GHZ GDDR DVI HDMI 2XMINIDP PCI-E Video Card ($169.99)
Other: Antec Basiq VP450 450W Power Supply ATX12V V2.3 Dual +12V Rail 120MM Fan 80% Efficiency ($30.95)
Other: Patriot Viper 3 8GB 2X4GB PC3-12800 DDR3-1600 9-9-9-24 1.5V Dual Channel Memory Kit ($37.99)
Other: Intel Core i3 3220 Dual Core Hyperthreading Processor LGA1155 3.3GHZ Ivy Bridge 3MB Retail Box ($119.99)
Total: $445.58
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

It's from here : http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=75429&promoid=1292
Also if you can spend a bit more, get this case : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
That's if you don't like the style of the nzxt.
February 6, 2013 1:19:09 AM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i3-2100 3.1GHz Dual-Core Processor ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock H61M-DGS Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($44.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Patriot Gamer 2 Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($38.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7850 1GB Video Card ($164.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $418.94
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-02-05 22:19 EST-0500)
February 6, 2013 1:20:27 AM

FYI... I would get from amazon when you can. It's a far superior site when compared to newegg. From it's customer service, returns, and lightning fast standard shipping. Plus, if it's defective, they pay for the return shipping. Newegg, however, does not.
February 6, 2013 1:21:39 AM

Both newegg, amazon or ncix is fine for buying the parts.
February 6, 2013 1:22:42 AM

No AMD build yet?
February 6, 2013 1:24:37 AM

djangoringo said:
Both newegg, amazon or ncix is fine for buying the parts.


Didn't mean to imply newegg wasn't alright, simply that amazon > newegg.
February 6, 2013 1:25:22 AM

Pwnstarz69 said:
No AMD build yet?


Can I ask why you prefer it?
February 6, 2013 1:26:37 AM

You want an amd cpu ?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 975 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor ($82.18 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock 960GM/U3S3 FX Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($60.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: NZXT Gamma Classic (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($33.67 @ Amazon)
Other: XFX Radeon HD 7850 Core Edition 860MHZ 1GB 4.8GHZ GDDR DVI HDMI 2XMINIDP PCI-E Video Card ($169.99)
Other: Antec Basiq VP450 450W Power Supply ATX12V V2.3 Dual +12V Rail 120MM Fan 80% Efficiency ($30.95)
Other: Patriot Viper 3 8GB 2X4GB PC3-12800 DDR3-1600 9-9-9-24 1.5V Dual Channel Memory Kit ($37.99)
Total: $415.76
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

The FX ones are more expensive than the i3 or your budget.
February 6, 2013 1:30:33 AM

Is there something wrong with amd? I actually don't know much about this stuff but a friend recommended amd over intel considering my budget wasn't too high the $450 isn't a STRICT budget btw, I could go a little over.
February 6, 2013 1:33:27 AM

Yes, amd has some decent cpus for the price, specially for low budget, but the intel cpus have faster cores, the i3 overall is better in spite of being a dual core.
The x4 975 is a good alternative, though.
February 6, 2013 1:36:03 AM

djangoringo said:
Yes, amd has some decent cpus for the price, specially for low budget, but the intel cpus have faster cores, the i3 overall is better in spite of being a dual core.
The x4 975 is a good alternative, though.


What if I considered learning how to overclock? But honestly, I know almost nothing about computer parts and performance. I'm just trying to get the BEST possible machine for my budget.
February 6, 2013 1:45:12 AM

You'll need an aftermarket cooler like the xigmatek gaia or the hyper 212 evo for overclock the amd cpu.
The i3 offers good performance, and lower power consumption.
February 6, 2013 6:07:33 AM

An I3 at stock clocks will surely beat (in gaming performance) an older X4 975 (however it's still capable of running everything you want for now) but cost more too as AMD Motherboard, CPU are always (in the same performance bracket) cheaper...

I'm more a fan of Intel so i'd grab an I3 (more for AES as i use AES encryption and the instruction don't need CPU usage too much (like 1% over an AMD with no AES instructions that runs 20% for reading something on the HDD/SSD...) but if you're not crypting or doing sse4 (or advance instruction that intel is developing that not a single game use) then go with the AMD, it'll be cheaper and as fast in gaming or simple windows usage...

PS: Overclock an AMD cpu and get a good cooler is surely better than a stock I3 as it's probaly more close to a stock I5 (and that runs everything you want for now)
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