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December 21, 2012 9:06:03 PM

Hi! I'm a new member fresh off the batch, so do forgive me for any lacking pieces of information. I bought a HP-Pavillion p-7 1254 well over a year ago, and since then, I've noticed a reoccurring theme: Its graphics card is not all up to today's modern PC-gaming standards. I've been scouring the web for a good graphics card, and all I've found wwere these two cards: Raedon HD 7750 and 6670. I'm looking to play games such as Skyrim and GW2, amd my budget is around $100-200'ish.

-Do you think this is a good choice?
-> If not, please suggest another and please be detailed!
-Thanks in advance! :D 

Specs: AMD A6-3620 APU Processor
AMD Raedon HD 6530D Graphics Card
8 GB RAM
300W PSU
1 TB Hard Drive

Here's the link for anything I missed: http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?cc=us&lc=en...
a b U Graphics card
December 21, 2012 9:31:42 PM

you will also need to upgrade the PSU most likely. 400W (or greater) power supply recommended
a b U Graphics card
December 21, 2012 9:41:53 PM

+1 to that. Check what PSU you already have, but it's probably not great. As for graphics card, $200 could get you a GTX660 and it's a thing of beauty. Best bang-for-the-buck by miles. Do you know what you have already? If it's sub-6670 then you're gonna see a colossal improvement.
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a b U Graphics card
December 21, 2012 9:46:55 PM

^ +1 GTX 660 will be a great card for your budget.
December 21, 2012 9:49:35 PM

The 7750 has a max watt of only 55w, which should work well with my A6-3620 (2.2 Ghz) processor and 300w PSU. -I'll give my comp's specs in a few.
a b U Graphics card
December 21, 2012 9:55:03 PM

55w?
December 21, 2012 9:56:20 PM

My mistake idk what I was thinkin' with the 55w.
a b U Graphics card
December 21, 2012 9:57:15 PM

Nevermind, what are your specs?
December 21, 2012 10:00:21 PM

Refresh the page. I edited the post and placed a link.
December 21, 2012 10:07:33 PM

I'd prefer a ATI Graphics card over other brands.
a b U Graphics card
December 21, 2012 10:10:17 PM

Neocyte said:
I'd prefer a ATI Graphics card over other brands.


Then I'd recommend an AMD 7850 at your budget.
a b U Graphics card
December 21, 2012 10:11:35 PM

ATI no longer exist... you're maybe thinking of AMD now. They don't appreciate your brand loyalty anyway (none of them do - these are colossal tech corporations with billions of dollars, driven purely by profit), but if you really don't want nVidia hardware, a 2GB 7850 would do.
a b U Graphics card
December 21, 2012 10:12:28 PM

Commandermadi said:
Then I'd recommend an AMD 7850 at your budget.


Haha great minds think alike :-)
a b U Graphics card
December 21, 2012 10:12:42 PM

sam_p_lay said:
ATI no longer exist... you're maybe thinking of AMD now. They don't appreciate your brand loyalty anyway (none of them do - these are colossal tech corporations with billions of dollars, driven purely by profit), but if you really don't want nVidia hardware, a 2GB 7850 would do.


nVidia also is driven purely by profit dude... Something like Phsyx is a pure marketing trick for example.
a b U Graphics card
December 21, 2012 10:14:38 PM

Commandermadi said:
nVidia also is driven purely by profit dude... Something like Phsyx is a pure marketing trick for example.


You maybe missed the 'none of them do' part :-) And I used to think that about PhysX because it's what everyone told me. I have a Radeon so haven't had the chance to play with PhysX myself. But somebody posted this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAfzjTAhpBk&feature=play...

I have to admit, that's pretty damned cool :-D
a b U Graphics card
December 21, 2012 10:15:14 PM

sam_p_lay said:
Haha great minds think alike :-)


Actually I went strongly into reading more and more about graphics card the last couple of weeks thanks to you. You were one of the firsts to recommend the GTX 670 for me over the AMD 7970 while others recommended the latter one so I was confused and I had to curiously read almost every and each review in and outside toms :) )
a b U Graphics card
December 21, 2012 10:20:25 PM

Hehe well I'm flattered :-D Did you buy the GTX670? It's a really awesome card - I'd love to own one, but I'm gonna hold off until next year's models. If GTX700 is as big an improvement over GTX600 as GTX400 was over GTX200 then it'll be worth the wait!
a b U Graphics card
December 21, 2012 10:24:05 PM

Yes I ordered it like 6 hours ago. Should arrive here on Dec 26 tho and I can't wait. I ordered the Gigabyte Windforce 3x one after a long time of confusion between rather to choose it or the Asus Direct CU ii non top.
a b U Graphics card
December 21, 2012 10:28:03 PM

Ah nice! I have to admit I'm a bit jealous :-) I'm gonna hold off on DLCs 3 and 4 of Borderlands 2 until I get a GeForce for the PhysX. Did you see that video ^? What hardware are you upgrading from by the way? Gigabyte are an excellent manufacturer - they're my combined top choice for motherboards / graphics along with MSI / EVGA. Anyway it's late where I am so I'm gonna grab some sleep. Have fun with your GTX670! :-) And OP, have fun with whatever you choose!
December 21, 2012 10:37:53 PM

Commandermadi said:
Then I'd recommend an AMD 7850 at your budget.

And you're sure that I will be able to install it? Have you checked the nooks 'n crannies of my pc to see if the specs matched?
a b U Graphics card
December 21, 2012 10:38:35 PM

sam_p_lay said:
Ah nice! I have to admit I'm a bit jealous :-) I'm gonna hold off on DLCs 3 and 4 of Borderlands 2 until I get a GeForce for the PhysX. Did you see that video ^? What hardware are you upgrading from by the way? Gigabyte are an excellent manufacturer - they're my combined top choice for motherboards / graphics along with MSI / EVGA. Anyway it's late where I am so I'm gonna grab some sleep. Have fun with your GTX670! :-) And OP, have fun with whatever you choose!


I am upgrading from a 2GB Gigabyte GTX 650. And the same for the motherboard, its a gigabyte as well. I dunno why but I am love Gigabyte products :) 
a b U Graphics card
December 21, 2012 10:43:43 PM

Neocyte said:
And you're sure that I will be able to install it? Have you checked the nooks 'n crannies of my pc to see if the specs matched?


I am not sure as I think you will need 500W (or greater) power supply with one 75W 6-pin PCI Express power connector to install that card. And.. for how much is that PC already?
December 21, 2012 10:45:29 PM

Commandermadi said:
I am not sure as I think you will need 500W (or greater) power supply with one 75W 6-pin PCI Express power connector to install that card. And.. for how much is that PC already?

Specs and a link is already posted.
a b U Graphics card
December 22, 2012 9:38:38 AM

Yes, I guess 650ti will work on your specs :) 
a b U Graphics card
December 22, 2012 9:51:48 AM

Yeah if you can take a GTX660, you can definitely take a GTX650 Ti. It's smaller and draws less wattage. The GTX660 will deliver over 50% more performance though, so they're not as close as the model numbers would suggest. The lineup is actually really unevenly-spaced - GTX680 for example is around 5% above GTX670. Some very small gaps, and some huge ones. That said, most current games can be maxed at 1080p, AA and high settings on a GTX650 Ti. Some of the more demanding games you'd need to disable AA or drop some settings. With a GTX660, you'd have more than enough muscle for everything maxed except Far Cry 3.
December 22, 2012 12:30:02 PM

I've narrowed down to three excellent graphics cards that don't require a huge amount of power: AMD Raedon 6670, 6770, and 7750. Which one is the best?
Which one(s) can I use without having to buy a new power supply?
a b U Graphics card
December 22, 2012 12:34:24 PM

the 7750 is the best among those
a b U Graphics card
December 22, 2012 12:37:11 PM

Yeah 6770 or 7750 is the way to go. 7750 will deliver the same results but with very low power consumption (75 watts for the GDDR5 version, which is the one you want).
December 22, 2012 12:41:53 PM

What's the difference between GDDR5, DDR5, and DDR3?
a b U Graphics card
December 22, 2012 5:59:23 PM

At a given clock speed, GDDR5 is twice as fast as DDR3. There is no DDR5. Anything labelled as that will be GDDR5.
December 22, 2012 8:04:59 PM

If I were to upgrade my current card to an AMD Raedon HD 7750, what fps/setting would I get for Skyrim? It seems like a very good card, and the best part is that I don't need to buy a new power source. :D 
a b U Graphics card
December 22, 2012 9:05:17 PM

It wasn't really a statement - it's a benchmark. It's all down to the settings you're happy to play at though. Drop the image quality and it'll run faster.
a b U Graphics card
December 22, 2012 9:18:47 PM

Neocyte said:
Doesn't this contradict your statement?
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:System_Requirements


As Sam said, it was a benchmark. Moreover, in the link you posted, it says that the HD 7750 can play the game at extremely high details right? but your link didn't also say "How smooth" it will play at these extreme details :) 

In summary, all cards can play all games on any graphic settings, but being "smooth" or not depends on what fps satisfy you.
a b U Graphics card
December 22, 2012 9:26:37 PM

Yeah that's it - you can use ultra and AA at 1080p and you'll be around 30fps, a little less in some places, a little more in others. Disable antialiasing and you should have consistently smooth gameplay, unless you're somebody who demands 60fps. I'd personally keep the AA and drop from ultra to high for the best overall combination of quality and performance.
December 22, 2012 10:00:48 PM

Ty you guys so much!
Final Choice: AMD Raedon HD 7750.
a b U Graphics card
December 22, 2012 10:06:35 PM

Pleasure :-) Have fun with Skyrim!
a b U Graphics card
December 22, 2012 10:07:51 PM

Have fun :)  Hope you will enjoy it.
a b U Graphics card
December 23, 2012 4:02:56 AM

well hope you do coz i didnt :( 
December 23, 2012 12:42:57 PM

Last questions:

-Will my processor seriously bottleneck the performance I get out of the 7750?

-Should I even dare think about getting a new psu, or do you guys think I'll be fine without one?
a b U Graphics card
December 23, 2012 12:53:12 PM

- No

- No
:) 
December 24, 2012 8:31:23 PM

Ok. So I went to a local computer store, and the vendor said he would be able to order the AMD Raedon HD 7750 1-GB GDDR5 card for me. However, he said that I would have to get a new power supply because it didn't have the specified pci connector. Is this true? I don't mind getting a 50$-ish power supply.
a b U Graphics card
December 24, 2012 8:51:29 PM

it comes with a 1 x 6 pin PCI-E Power Adapter which you will need 2 power connectors free or the ability to hook it up to 2 connectors
December 24, 2012 10:32:33 PM

So , essentially what you're saying is that, I have to get a new power supply?
a b U Graphics card
December 24, 2012 11:46:28 PM

I would just to be sure
a b U Graphics card
December 25, 2012 3:25:40 AM

7750 does not need a pci connector !! your vendor is mad. your power supply will be just fine
December 25, 2012 12:47:59 PM

I'll ask him about it when the order comes. Thanks!
January 3, 2013 11:41:33 PM

I just got it, and it's frikin' amazing. Many thanks!
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