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February 7, 2013 1:55:20 AM

Hi everyone!

So I have decided its time to build a bigger, better pc than the one I have. I was wondering if you guys could help me figure out what components I should get! My budget is roughly $2750.

I will be using this computer primarily for gaming (BF3, Crysis 2, Skyrim, Bioshock Infinite... soon). This is kind of what I had in mind so far:

Monitor-
Definitely gonna get one of those dirt cheap Korean Catleap 27" 1440p IPS monitors!

Videocard/cards-
Debating between GTX 690 and MSI 680 lightnings in SLI. I've read through pros and cons of each. Both about same price. 680s have slightly better performance. 690 uses less power and so on. Regardless I want to max out all games at 1440p resolution with 60+ fps and these should do the job.

CPU-
Need help with this. I plan on OCing. I've read debates about i5 vs i7. If I'm using computer primarily for gaming should a i5 3570K be fine, or will it be a bottleneck if I have two beastly gpu's? Will something like an i7 3930K be too expensive for what I would get out of it compared to the i5?

Heatsink-
Enermax ETS-T40. How's that for OC my cpu?

Mobo-
Something compatible with the decided cpu and has PCI 3.0 slots.

Ram-
16 gb. Should I get ones that have those big heat fin things? Will they fit next to the heatsink?

SSD-
I'm thinking something like 128gb

Internal Hard drive-
1 tb. I don't have too much stuff, and I'm fine with uninstalling things to get more space.

PSU-
Please suggest something that will power this beast.

Case-
I was thinking the Antec Twelve Hundred V3. Only thing I'm worried about is will I have enough connectors from the mobo to each fan.

So yeah! What I listed above are guidelines. I would help a lot if you could suggest specific models for components that would be compatible with each other.

Thanks!!!!



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February 7, 2013 2:18:57 AM

Here's what I'd do with that budget (leaves roughly $700 for monitor, couldn't find the one you mentioned)....

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/BWLk

The 3570K is gamer's choice, especially for OC'ing.
i7 is mostly for video editing/rendering and that kind of usage and if this is a straight gamer, you'll never tap into the extra power of the i7.


Here's one I put together on NewEgg a while back....
http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx...

Overall it's the same, just swap out the 3770K for the 3570K and exchange the one 660ti for the 2 x GTX 680's and add your monitor of choice.
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February 7, 2013 9:35:49 AM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($80.76 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus Maximus V Extreme EATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($369.00 @ Amazon)
Memory: Patriot Viper 3 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($83.98 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial M4 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($189.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital VelociRaptor 1TB 3.5" 10000RPM Internal Hard Drive ($219.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($386.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($386.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: NZXT Phantom 820 (White) ATX Full Tower Case ($249.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Corsair Professional 750W 80 PLUS Silver Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($135.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus BW-12B1ST/BLK/G/AS Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Asus VE278H 27.0" Monitor ($259.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $2613.60
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-02-07 06:35 EST-0500)
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February 7, 2013 8:40:26 PM

I will disagree with the above build on a couple things::

No reason to pay nearly $400 for a motherboard when one that's 1/2 as much performs the exact same functions. 16GB of RAM isn't really of use on a gaming rig, and there's no reason to purchase a WD Velociraptor HD. I also will not recommend Intel SSDs, get a OCZ Vector or Samsung 840 Pro instead.

On the original build that Enermax heat sink is junk and no better than the stock fan. If you drop the expensive motherboard you can get a far better cooler like a D14.

Here's what I would suggest:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($80.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD3H ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($157.86 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($51.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: OCZ Vector Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition 3GB Video Card (2-Way CrossFire) ($399.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition 3GB Video Card (2-Way CrossFire) ($399.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 w/Window (Titanium Grey) ATX Mid Tower Case ($134.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: NZXT HALE 90 850W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($169.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($22.98 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1998.73
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-02-07 16:57 EST-0500)

Then use the difference for a nice 1440p display and whatever peripherals you want.
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February 7, 2013 11:48:16 PM

g-unit1111 said:
I will disagree with the above build on a couple things::

No reason to pay nearly $400 for a motherboard when one that's 1/2 as much performs the exact same functions. 16GB of RAM isn't really of use on a gaming rig, and there's no reason to purchase a WD Velociraptor HD. I also will not recommend Intel SSDs, get a OCZ Vector or Samsung 840 Pro instead.

On the original build that Enermax heat sink is junk and no better than the stock fan. If you drop the expensive motherboard you can get a far better cooler like a D14.

Here's what I would suggest:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($80.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD3H ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($157.86 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($51.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: OCZ Vector Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition 3GB Video Card (2-Way CrossFire) ($399.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition 3GB Video Card (2-Way CrossFire) ($399.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 w/Window (Titanium Grey) ATX Mid Tower Case ($134.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: NZXT HALE 90 850W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($169.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($22.98 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1998.73
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-02-07 16:57 EST-0500)

Then use the difference for a nice 1440p display and whatever peripherals you want.


I totally agree that the Maximus is way more mobo than needed for good OC'ing, but curious why you do not recommend Intel SSD's. Do you have specific history of problems or you just feel there is better bang for the buck from the ones you suggested? I've done 3 builds in the last 6 months with the 180GB 520 and 330 series SSD's and more before that, without a single issue so far and no documentation of proven issues with them that I've seen.
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February 8, 2013 5:55:00 AM

g-unit1111 said:
I will disagree with the above build on a couple things::

No reason to pay nearly $400 for a motherboard when one that's 1/2 as much performs the exact same functions. 16GB of RAM isn't really of use on a gaming rig, and there's no reason to purchase a WD Velociraptor HD. I also will not recommend Intel SSDs, get a OCZ Vector or Samsung 840 Pro instead.

On the original build that Enermax heat sink is junk and no better than the stock fan. If you drop the expensive motherboard you can get a far better cooler like a D14.

Here's what I would suggest:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($80.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD3H ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($157.86 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($51.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: OCZ Vector Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition 3GB Video Card (2-Way CrossFire) ($399.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition 3GB Video Card (2-Way CrossFire) ($399.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 w/Window (Titanium Grey) ATX Mid Tower Case ($134.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: NZXT HALE 90 850W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($169.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($22.98 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1998.73
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-02-07 16:57 EST-0500)

Then use the difference for a nice 1440p display and whatever peripherals you want.


I like this build very much, and am very glad you and the others here have turned me to the noctua heat sink. That thing is a beast and seems to be one of the best air coolers out there. Not a big fan of the color scheme but whatever.

One thing I was curious about is your choice of video cards. Now I don't want this to turn into a AMD vs. Nvidia battle, but I've just always gone with Nvidia. Why did you personally decide to suggest the 7970s as opposed to an Nvidia alternative?
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February 8, 2013 9:08:43 AM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($80.76 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UP5 TH ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($239.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($44.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($89.99 @ Microcenter)
Storage: Crucial M4 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($189.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card (2-Way CrossFire) ($379.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card (2-Way CrossFire) ($379.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 w/Window (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: Corsair Professional 850W 80 PLUS Silver Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB DVD/CD Writer ($15.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1861.66
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-02-08 06:08 EST-0500)

I chose the AMD card this time, because i found it for GTX 670 price. Which is awesome!!!
Had to change the power supply because the 7970 need more juice...


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February 8, 2013 3:13:39 PM

N8man3 said:
I like this build very much, and am very glad you and the others here have turned me to the noctua heat sink. That thing is a beast and seems to be one of the best air coolers out there. Not a big fan of the color scheme but whatever.

One thing I was curious about is your choice of video cards. Now I don't want this to turn into a AMD vs. Nvidia battle, but I've just always gone with Nvidia. Why did you personally decide to suggest the 7970s as opposed to an Nvidia alternative?


Dual 7970s will pretty much destroy any game you put in its' path. But there is that pesky micro stuttering issue. However dual 670's will give you the exact same performance as the $1K GTX 690 within 2 or 3 FPS: http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/588?vs=585
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February 18, 2013 6:11:17 PM

Best answer selected by N8man3.
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