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First Time Build, 1000-1300$ budget. -Upped Budget

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February 7, 2013 5:17:36 AM

Approximate Purchase Date:

under 1000$ This week, 1000-1300 Next Month.

Budget Range:
1000-1300$


System Usage from Most to Least Important:
Gaming, Surfing the internet, Burning Dvd's Possibly Streaming in the future.

Are you buying a monitor:

No Currently using HP 20 Inch LCD


Parts to Upgrade:

N/A

Do you need to buy OS:

Yes, but dont need to include it in this cost i get a free 2 year license from my school so ill be fine for a while.


Preferred Website(s) for Parts:
Amazon/Newegg are fine. If it has Shop Runner free shipping even better.


Location: Southern California
I have access to both fry's and microcenter.


Parts Preferences:

Alway's been a fan of the way corsair products look, but whatever is cost efficient.
I am a big fan of this case
http://www.fractal-design.com/?view=product&prod=111


Overclocking: Maybe, have never done it before would like the option.


SLI or Crossfire:
No idea.


Your Monitor Resolution: 1600x900, i have a 1920x1080 monitor but had to stop using it because of framerate drops.


Additional Comments:
I am a big fan of energy efficient, and quiet things.. but both of those seem counter intuitive to gaming
I play, Diablo 3, Starcraft 3, League of Legends, Dota 2. I have never really been into shooters but i would like to start.

And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: My current pc HPE 140f-With a pny gt 430 2gb card is struggling with diablo 3, struggles ith starcraft 3 on anything above normal and i just want some better performance if thats possible.


I would like to start using my 1920x1080 monitor, but if it cant be done with my budget i can stick with the 1600x900.

This is my first time attempting to build a computer. Is it difficult? would i be better of just buying one already assembled.

Just browsing around the forum people mentioned there are some good deals at micro center in store
http://viewer.zmags.com/publication/c0a7cbf9#/c0a7cbf9/...
so if you see anything good there can you let me know.
February 7, 2013 5:44:44 AM

Forgot to mention, i need an internal wifi card.
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February 7, 2013 7:32:45 AM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($32.98 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($129.99 @ Microcenter)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($43.98 @ Outlet PC)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($75.00 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 660 2GB Video Card ($219.99 @ Microcenter)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 w/Window (Titanium Grey) ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($65.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB DVD/CD Writer ($15.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $893.90
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-02-07 04:32 EST-0500)
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February 7, 2013 8:01:22 AM

Just a little over budget to squeeze an SSD and modular PSU in.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.98 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Pro3 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($43.98 @ Outlet PC)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($76.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Crucial M4 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($107.95 @ Mac Connection)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7870 XT 2GB Video Card ($244.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: PC Power & Cooling Silencer MK III 500W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($16.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $905.82
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-02-07 05:00 EST-0500)
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February 7, 2013 10:06:19 PM

Thanks for the builds

I do have a few more questions, would waiting a month to increase my budget to say 1300$ give my better performance?

Do you think prices might drop a little further?
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February 7, 2013 10:15:02 PM

Repress said:
Thanks for the builds

I do have a few more questions, would waiting a month to increase my budget to say 1300$ give my better performance?

Do you think prices might drop a little further?


If you give that kind of budget then your rig will be top notch.

atm, for about 1000 you can get a rig that will play most games on ultra/near ultra.

right now, you are sacrificing, Motherboard, somewhat on PSU, and if you do not take SSD, then most recommended to take WD BLACK instead of BLUE (speed and quality is a bit different)

the Asrock extreme4 (129.99) will be great, but here is a list of items that you will prolly get by having 1300 budget (note; if you are in USA the prices may be lower.)

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/C6l4
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/C6l4/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/C6l4/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($32.97 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V PRO ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($199.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($89.99 @ Microcenter)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($93.99 @ Adorama)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($359.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 932 Advanced ATX Full Tower Case ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Professional 750W 80 PLUS Silver Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($145.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($18.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $1281.86
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-02-07 19:13 EST-0500)
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February 7, 2013 10:30:42 PM

How long do you think i could run a build like that before i would need to upgrade again? could i expect it to last me 4-5 years before needing to upgrade?

also should i definitely pick up the i5-3570k for 189$, and the 129$ Asrock extreme4, and the WD 1tb Drive at micro center within a day or two?
Should i go with the motherboard you suggested for a different reason?
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February 7, 2013 11:12:25 PM

100% to i5-3570k cuz that is a great deal
70% to Asrock Extreme4 (since I do not believe you will take overclocking to extremes), and only 70% cuz it aint really a big discount price. just in case there is a better deal....? but getting it will not hard in any way i dont think, same thing goes for WD hard drive



This rig will last for about 4 years, depending on which games you move onto. Maybe you will put in a few extra bucks for an OVERCLOCKED or superclocked 670 gpu so you dont have to do anything with it

it will do 2 years comfortably handling all new games very well.
3rd year you will start seeing that it is starting to get old (not saying that it will be bad, just saying you will start noticing) This is when you will probably look into overclocking a little more seriously. Overclocking is a good way to bring a little bit more life into your old computer, in my opinion.
4th year you will start feeling like you may need a new computer.
you will find use for the computer for about 6 years


I have a 2000$ computer from 2008.

I have upgraded video card in it (550ti and the old one was 2900HD radeon), and it runs new games on mid=>high graphics. Very satisfied still but it started to get a little too slow on new games, so i boughta new computer and just overclocked the old one, Although now i see that if i overclocked from the start i couldve lasted maybe another 6-12month with it while being comfortable playing on it. but im happier to have a new computer :D 


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February 8, 2013 5:17:46 AM

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February 8, 2013 5:21:55 AM

Thank's for all the replies.

Im going to keep my eye out for some good deals but i plan on holding out on the gpu and ssd for now because thats a bulk of the cost and cant really afford it right now. In marchi will prob pick those up and maybe by then there will be some better deals :]
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February 8, 2013 7:49:57 AM

I have another question lol.
I do like to explore all my options and a friend of mine recommend this video to me
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=...

Is this a good build as well? assuming i can get a good price on the parts.
I started watching more of his videos and the amd 8350 seems to perform pretty well, even more so if you streaming and i would love to start that someday.

I really have no preference to manufacturers and if you guys say this is a pretty good build i will probably go with whatever is the cheaper option between the two assuming there equal.



These are the spec's they had listed for the build
CPU: AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor $189.99
Cooling: NZXT Kraken X60 RL-KRX60-01 280mm ($139.99)
Motherboard: Asus SABERTOOTH 990FX R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard $179.99
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory $99.99
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $89.99
Storage: Kingston HyperX 3K 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk $104.99
Video Card: PNY GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card $299.99
Case: NZXT Tempest 410 ATX Mid Tower Case $59.99
Power Supply: Cooler Master GX 750W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply $69.98

Total (with shipping): $1234.90

Not sure if these prices are still accurate.

I did notice some of the thing in there build are more expensive could those be substituted with cheaper options (non water cooled for example, 1tb drive, 8gb ram) making this possibly even cheaper?

Could one of you design another build around the 8350? Really appreciate the help just trying to get the most that i can with the little money i have. If i can get this build to around 1000$ it would be amazing because ill be able to afford it this month rather than having to wait a month.

If i have to sacrifice to much over the 1300$ build you suggested above then ill bide my time and wait till more money comes in for me.

I def think that the GeForce 670 will be in my build though a lot of people recommend it and it seems great overall
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February 9, 2013 2:45:25 PM

Repress said:
I have another question lol.
I do like to explore all my options and a friend of mine recommend this video to me
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=...

Is this a good build as well? assuming i can get a good price on the parts.
I started watching more of his videos and the amd 8350 seems to perform pretty well, even more so if you streaming and i would love to start that someday.

I really have no preference to manufacturers and if you guys say this is a pretty good build i will probably go with whatever is the cheaper option between the two assuming there equal.



These are the spec's they had listed for the build
CPU: AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor $189.99
Cooling: NZXT Kraken X60 RL-KRX60-01 280mm ($139.99)
Motherboard: Asus SABERTOOTH 990FX R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard $179.99
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory $99.99
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $89.99
Storage: Kingston HyperX 3K 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk $104.99
Video Card: PNY GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card $299.99
Case: NZXT Tempest 410 ATX Mid Tower Case $59.99
Power Supply: Cooler Master GX 750W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply $69.98

Total (with shipping): $1234.90

Not sure if these prices are still accurate.

I did notice some of the thing in there build are more expensive could those be substituted with cheaper options (non water cooled for example, 1tb drive, 8gb ram) making this possibly even cheaper?

Could one of you design another build around the 8350? Really appreciate the help just trying to get the most that i can with the little money i have. If i can get this build to around 1000$ it would be amazing because ill be able to afford it this month rather than having to wait a month.

If i have to sacrifice to much over the 1300$ build you suggested above then ill bide my time and wait till more money comes in for me.

I def think that the GeForce 670 will be in my build though a lot of people recommend it and it seems great overall



really the i5-3570k will outperform the amd, overall will make the system better. and they chose a PNY branded gpu, which is more of a 'budget' card

typical places to cut are... Computer Case, Optical Drives, CPU cooler evo 212 really is great dont need more, Motherboard can be cut a bit if you are not overclocking or doing some bios tweaks (but is important to get a good one for stability), PSU in a way of weather you want Modular or non, storage is the other one; some people get like 500gb drive to just save a few bucks





GPU i would take a good brand one, ive had a budget brand gpu, it was great cuz i couldnt afford a better one, but i sucked cuz it would not be upto par with my friend's computer who had same model.







sorry just some final thoughts xD



ok a build that is more budget concious, basically almost same performance, just cut HDD, case, PSU

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/CpDd
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/CpDd/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/CpDd/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($129.99 @ Microcenter)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($74.98 @ Outlet PC)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($93.99 @ Adorama)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($369.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Rosewill THOR V2 ATX Full Tower Case ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Cooler Master Silent Pro M 700W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($18.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $1132.88
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-02-09 11:44 EST-0500)
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