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February 7, 2013 7:38:37 AM

Hello, this is my first time posting and I was wondering if anybody knows if all of these components will work with each other...

Cooler Master HAF 922 Gaming Case Black

AMD FX-8350 CPU

G.Skill Ripjaws X 1x8GB 1833MHZ RAM

Corsair CX750 Power Supply

AMD Radeon HD 7870 - 2GB - HIS IceQ GFX

Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3 AMD 990FX MoBo

1TB SATA3 6GB/s 7200RPM 64MB Cache WD

24X Dual Format/Double Layer DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW Drive LG

ASUS Xonar DGX Sound

I`ve never built a PC before and I`ve spent the last 2-3 days trying to decide on actually getting a custom build by ibuypower but when I was about to finish the order I noticed duty fees and did some googling and found that UPS charges way too much.

If these questions have already been answered then I apologize in advance as I am new here. Thanks



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February 7, 2013 7:50:45 AM

I see a few issues here, just quickly, you only have one stick of RAM, you should get 2 to utilise dual channel. Unless you're a big audiophile or doing music production you wont need a sound card.

Take a look at the link below, copy the template and fill out the questions then post back here. With this info we can help you choose a good affordable rig for your needs.

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/353572-13-build-upg...
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February 7, 2013 8:19:39 AM

Thanks a lot for the quick reply... just from not understanding the RAM dual channel fact, I can see I'm very noob at this.

Approximate Purchase Date: By Feb. 11 (local store is having a few sales)

Budget Range: 1000 CAD before shipping and 13% tax (rebate is just bonus and not something I really pay attention to)

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming to 3d to everyday things (I'm content with playing new games on med-high settings @ 1920x1080 as long as I can get high framerates, but will also need to have 2 monitors on sometimes but not for gaming)

Are you buying a monitor: No (Currently have 2. One of them has 2 hdmi + vga, the other has hdmi + vga + dvi)

Parts to Upgrade: Everything for a working gaming desktop

Do you need to buy OS: Yes (not too familiar with Microsoft's policies)

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: newegg.ca , tigerdirect.ca , canadacomputers.com (local store)

Location: Ontario, Canada

Parts Preferences: Intel or AMD is fine as long as it's good for gaming and multitasking

Overclocking: No

SLI or Crossfire: Yes but a year or 2 down the road (I hope)

Your Monitor Resolution: Both run at 1920x1080

Additional Comments: I would like a good amount of cooling so I don't have to worry about overheating problems (doesn't have to be liquid)

And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: Want to run MMO smoothly and do some 3d

I forgot to mention that Bestbuy and Futureshop are also local stores but they usually have much higher prices on everything.

I also forgot to mention that I chose those options in my first post at ibuypower and there were no messages about incompatibility but I need to be sure since this is my first time attempting to build and haven't used a desktop in about 10 years or so.

Thanks
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February 7, 2013 8:33:31 AM

Don't know much about canadian prices, im from the UK. Does the listed price include the sales tax or is that added after?

Just trying to price a build for you now.
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February 7, 2013 8:38:05 AM

Listed prices are always before taxes unless stated with otherwise.

Thanks a lot for the help... budget is a little flexible as long as the desktop can last a few years. This laptop I have now is a Core 2 Duo and I've been using it 2 months shy of 5 years.
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February 7, 2013 8:39:30 AM

If this includes the sales tax it should be in the right ball park, if not, we can make some tweaks, drop off the SSD maybe.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($224.99 @ Amazon Canada)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($31.05 @ DirectCanada)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Pro4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($99.88 @ Canada Computers)
Memory: Patriot Gamer 2 Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($34.88 @ Canada Computers)
Storage: Crucial M4 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($114.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.79 @ DirectCanada)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7870 XT 2GB Video Card ($259.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 922 ATX Mid Tower Case ($78.88 @ Canada Computers)
Power Supply: XFX 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($78.65 @ DirectCanada)
Optical Drive: Samsung SN-208DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($21.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.45 @ DirectCanada)
Total: $1104.54
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-02-07 05:38 EST-0500)
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February 7, 2013 9:18:27 AM

$150 - AMD FX-8320 CPU @ Tigerdirect.ca

$70 - Western Digital 1 TB HARD DRIVE -- 32M Cache, 7200 RPM, 6.0Gb/s @ canadacomputers.com

$230 - HIS IceQ H787Q2G2M Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card @ newegg.ca (I would like to crossfire this card in the future if it's possible)

$75 - 750W Corsair CX750 @ canadacomputers.com (So that I can crossfire in the future if it's worth it to do so)

$20 - LG 24X Dual Format/Double Layer DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW Drive @ canadacomputers.com

$10 - Artic MX-4 High Performance Thermal Compound (if it matters) @ canadacomputers.com

$100 Cooler Master HAF 922 @ newegg.ca

Not interested in SSD currently as prices seem a bit too high still.

I made some changes because these are close to the same or lower prices and from what I read are better but not too sure.

I forgot to mention that the Cooler Master HAF 922 from canadacomputers.com is listed as in store pick up and checking their inventory there are only a few locations that has it which I cannot drive to so I had to look elsewhere.
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February 7, 2013 9:30:12 AM

If you don't want the SSD thats fine, can drop that.

The AMD CPU won't work with that motherboard. Also the 3570k is a much better CPU.

The HDD, yup, thats a fine change.

The graphics card, you have chosen a 7870 where as i listed the 7870 XT, a confusing name but it is based on the 7950. It sits between the 7870 and 7950 and can overclock to 7950 levels. Hence it's higher price tag.

PSU, the corsair CX series isn't particularly great, not bad enough for me to say definitely don't get it but that XFX unit is more reliable. If you want corsair look for something in the AX, HX or TX series, in that order. Or the 750w XFX unit.

DVD drive, no issue with that.
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February 7, 2013 9:44:47 AM

Is it possible to downgrade the 3570 for something better priced while still being better than the AMD FX-8320?

I don't plan on doing any overclocking as it seems too much work with keep components cooled properly and whatnot.

With the MoBo you suggested I can crossfire the 7870 XT or would I need a better PSU than the one you suggested first time also?

Thanks for all the helpful advice.

Forgot to mention that Asrock @ canadacomputers is all sold out according to their site.
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February 7, 2013 10:00:46 AM

Based on your considerations i've made some changes. The fact that you want to xfire in future keeps the cost of the mobo up, if you decided you didnt want to xfire you could prob save 60-70 dollars there.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3470 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ NCIX)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD3H ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($144.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($51.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($67.99 @ NCIX)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($289.88 @ Canada Computers)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 922 ATX Mid Tower Case ($78.88 @ Canada Computers)
Power Supply: Antec TruePower New 750W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($79.88 @ Canada Computers)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($99.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Total: $1021.58
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-02-07 06:59 EST-0500)
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February 7, 2013 10:17:22 AM

G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 1866MHz CL9 Dual Channel Kit is available at canadacomputers.com for $50.
Can it run fine on this mobo?

Can you recommend the AMD Radeon HD 7870 - 2GB - HIS IceQ (for crossfire too)? The reason I'm asking is it's quieter/cooler and not as pricey.

I will have to get the Cool Master HAF 922 ATX at Direct for just under $100.

Antec is more reliable when it comes to power supplies? I don't mind paying more if it means I won't fry my components.

Thanks

That antec is pretty much sold out at canadacomputers :( 

Thanks for the suggestion xenot7
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February 7, 2013 11:07:38 AM

sartori48 said:
G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 1866MHz CL9 Dual Channel Kit is available at canadacomputers.com for $50.
Can it run fine on this mobo?

Can you recommend the AMD Radeon HD 7870 - 2GB - HIS IceQ (for crossfire too)? The reason I'm asking is it's quieter/cooler and not as pricey.

I will have to get the Cool Master HAF 922 ATX at Direct for just under $100.

Antec is more reliable when it comes to power supplies? I don't mind paying more if it means I won't fry my components.

Thanks

That antec is pretty much sold out at canadacomputers :( 

Thanks for the suggestion xenot7


The Ram should run fine but it will probably automatically underclock to 1600mhz, but that's fine.

That Antec model is a good one yes, there are others, feel free to list some from the places your buying and i can advise you if there ok or not.

I already included the 3470 in the build as you mentioned not wanting to overclock, no point getting the 3570 non k version as for the performance gain it's very negligible over the 3470.

In terms of the 7870 yes i can recommend some but obviously it's not as powerful as the 7950 or 7870 XT.

Have a look at the Sapphire and XFX 7870's, they are quality and good price.
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February 7, 2013 11:11:22 AM

Yes, I also may have to look into lowering all componets without possible crossfire in future. I've never built a pc before and I'm thinking maybe I should just get parts less than 750 after taxes and shipping just so that if I screw up this build it wouldn't be a lot of money wasted.

I was almost ready to order this http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1688... cyberpowerpc for 750 (before taxes and shipping) but I wasn't sure how many fans I'd need and I was afraid of all the negative reviews I've read about cyberpowerpc.

I've looked into Dell's Alienware X51 but it's a bit too pricey for me.

I've spent a good 3-4 days on trying to figure what is the best build and most of those days on ibuypower's site lol

And still I'm really not any closer to getting a desktop to take advantage of the 2 monitors I have (1 I just bought 2 days ago)

Thanks micerockett and xenot7 for giving me some good advice
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I'm still very clueless as to the quality of certain parts so I will be back later to ask again :D  take care.
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February 7, 2013 11:17:54 AM

There's nothing particularly wrong with Alienware or ibuypower it's just it's well over priced for what you get and generally either get a CPU that's overkill, a GPU that's under done or the both.

If you wanted to try something cheaper without xfire in the future you may prefer something like this

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3470 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ NCIX)
Motherboard: ASRock B75M-GL Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($59.99 @ Canada Computers)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($51.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($67.99 @ NCIX)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7870 2GB Video Card ($219.99 @ Canada Computers)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($50.65 @ DirectCanada)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 450W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($50.71 @ DirectCanada)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.45 @ DirectCanada)
Total: $798.75
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-02-07 08:17 EST-0500)

Good luck in your search :) 
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February 7, 2013 11:39:40 AM

mikerockett said:
There's nothing particularly wrong with Alienware or ibuypower it's just it's well over priced for what you get and generally either get a CPU that's overkill, a GPU that's under done or the both.

If you wanted to try something cheaper without xfire in the future you may prefer something like this

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3470 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ NCIX)
Motherboard: ASRock B75M-GL Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($59.99 @ Canada Computers)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($51.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($67.99 @ NCIX)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7870 2GB Video Card ($219.99 @ Canada Computers)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($50.65 @ DirectCanada)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 450W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($50.71 @ DirectCanada)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.45 @ DirectCanada)
Total: $798.75
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-02-07 08:17 EST-0500)

Good luck in your search :) 


Could that PSU power the whole System?
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February 7, 2013 11:57:32 AM

It will be able to yes. I understand lots of people can be wary when they see a low wattage on a PSU. Power draw for some components can often be overstated.

As long as you are mindful of the components and choose a good solid PSU you can generally get by on less wattage than you first think.

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February 7, 2013 12:02:13 PM

mikerockett said:
It will be able to yes. I understand lots of people can be wary when they see a low wattage on a PSU. Power draw for some components can often be overstated.

As long as you are mindful of the components and choose a good solid PSU you can generally get by on less wattage than you first think.


Is this good?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

And how many fans does the casing have
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February 7, 2013 12:05:59 PM

Yes, seasonic is widely considered one of the best PSU manufacturers.

XFX units utilise seasonic components.
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February 7, 2013 12:32:32 PM

If you are using Pcpartpicker it'll calculate your wattage as you go, handy tool, obviously to be taken with a pinch of salt.
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February 7, 2013 12:54:03 PM

mikerockett said:
If you are using Pcpartpicker it'll calculate your wattage as you go, handy tool, obviously to be taken with a pinch of salt.


Ok, didn't see that one. And BTW the casing is good enough but how many fans does it have (initially) and how many could be installed.
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February 7, 2013 1:02:12 PM

There's 1 front mounted intake and 1 rear mounted exhaust. There's space for 5 additional 120 or 140mm fans and space for another 3 120mm fans. That's according to the website.

Personally i only see 6 additional spaces, 2 on the side, 2 on top, 1 in the bottom and 1 in the front.

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