high iso black & white

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I am a recent convert to digital SLR (although i have not parted with my EOS
30 camera yet!). I was always a fan of T-MAX 3200 - the grain created a
great effect if used in the right situation. Is it possible to replicate
this film grain effect using digital?

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M wrote:
> I am a recent convert to digital SLR (although i have not parted with
> my EOS 30 camera yet!). I was always a fan of T-MAX 3200 - the grain
> created a great effect if used in the right situation. Is it
> possible to replicate this film grain effect using digital?

It has to be ironic, this. Perhaps 90% of the posts here are about how
one camera has a little more or less noise than another, and here's you
wanting to add considerable noise! Personally, I've never seen a small
amount of noise as a problem, but that's not the fashionable view today.

Either shoot at a high ISO and/or add a neutral density filter to your
lens. You can also use programs like Paint Shop Pro to add noise to an
image.

David

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Thats what I thought. As I don't have photoshop yet it may be a good thing
that I kept my film camera. I seem to be in a minority in this group that I
actually love digital but also love film. How many photographers out there
still have and use both? I have EOS 30 and EOS 350D.

I suspect that even manipulating a digital image is still not going to give
the real gritty grain of TMAX 3200. I've taken some great city shots and
beach and sand shots with this film.


"Eugene" <nospamthanks@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> Best idea is to just do it in post-processing with Photoshop or something.
> You'll never get a Canon digital SLR to produce equivalent grain to 3200
> T-MAX. Using software to do it gives you a lot of control and you should
> be able to achieve an effect that looks similar to high speed film.
>
>> I am a recent convert to digital SLR (although i have not parted with my
>> EOS 30 camera yet!). I was always a fan of T-MAX 3200 - the grain
>> created a great effect if used in the right situation. Is it possible to
>> replicate this film grain effect using digital?

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According to David J Taylor <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.not-this-bit.nor-this-part.uk.invalid>:
> M wrote:
> > I am a recent convert to digital SLR (although i have not parted with
> > my EOS 30 camera yet!). I was always a fan of T-MAX 3200 - the grain
> > created a great effect if used in the right situation. Is it
> > possible to replicate this film grain effect using digital?
>
> It has to be ironic, this. Perhaps 90% of the posts here are about how
> one camera has a little more or less noise than another, and here's you
> wanting to add considerable noise! Personally, I've never seen a small
> amount of noise as a problem,

I agree -- just as grain was part of the territory back in my
high-speed (or pushed) film days.

> but that's not the fashionable view today.
>
> Either shoot at a high ISO and/or add a neutral density filter to your
> lens.

I'm not familiar with T-MAX 3200, but I suspect that the grains
are larger than single pixel size with anything at the 3200 ISO level
(presumed from the name). DSLR noise is confined to brightness
variations on individual pixels, and only by rare chance will two or
more adjacent noise pixels be at the same value to appear to be larger.

> You can also use programs like Paint Shop Pro to add noise to an
> image.

Is suspect that this might be the best way to go. Or perhaps
shoot some of the T-MAX 3200 on an 18% gray card and scan that as
something to merge with your image using your favorite photo processing
program. Perhaps modulate the gain at each pixel location with the
information from the grain reference image from the film.

Enjoy,
DoN.

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