• Ask the community now
  • Publish
Ad

Related Topics

See all relatives topics

News

Canon releases seven photo and all-in-one printers

While much of the country is baking in high summer temperatures, Canon is raining down printers - 7 to be exact. All of the printers are in Canon's PIXMA line-up with three being photo printers and the remaining four being all-in-one printers. The new photo printers can print pictures that last up to 100 years, while the all-in-one printers can print up to 22 black and white pages per minute. Read more

HP's new Color Laserjets print brighter colors

Palo Alto (CA) - Hewlett-Packard added 11 Color Laserjets models ranging from $700 to $5000 in price and from 17 to 30 pages per minute printing speeds to its printer product lineup. The new models use a new toner that promises to deliver brighter colors and higher gloss levels. Read more

Hitachi announces low-light surveillance camera

Surveillance cameras will be getting a boost, a light-intensity boost that is, from Hitachi Kokusai Electric's new EM-CCD cameras. EM-CCD (electrons multiplying charged coupled device) intensifies the incoming image, thereby increasing the low light sensitivity to .012 LUX. Read more

Konica Minolta updates $300 color laser printer

Konica Minolta replaces its entry level 2400W printer with the new 2500W. Offering an identical feature set, the new model comes in a slightly revised design for the same price. Read more

Latest Reviews & Articles

Overclocking Core 2 Duo: Power Versus Performance

Overclocking Core 2 Duo: Power Versus Performance

Intel's fastest Core 2 Duo, the E8600, runs at 3.33 GHz. But if you're a performance-hungry power user, we found that you can actually increase the chip's efficiency by overclocking it, thanks to 45 nm manufacturing and plenty of built-in headroom. Read more

Life At 2 GT/s: 6 GB DDR3-2000 Memory Kits Compared

Life At 2 GT/s: 6 GB DDR3-2000 Memory Kits Compared

Memory vendors put a lot of effort into drumming up excitement over high-end memory kits, but many of those products turn out to be vaporware. We test six DDR3-2000 kits that enthusiasts can actually buy today, and push them as far as they'll go. Read more

DDR3 Memory Scaling On AMD's Phenom II X4

DDR3 Memory Scaling On AMD's Phenom II X4

DDR3 memory is available in speeds ranging from DDR3-800 to DDR3-2133. Which is the best memory choice for AMD’s Phenom II X4? We tested as many speeds as possible using aggressive and conservative timings to find the sweet spot for your next build. Read more

Intel Core i7-975 Extreme And i7-950 Reviewed

Intel Core i7-975 Extreme And i7-950 Reviewed

Today Intel launches two high-end processors that take the place of its i7-965 and i7-940 CPUs. More speed? Same price points? We’ll take it! But are the new chips compelling enough to warrant spending more than you would on an i7-920? Read more

All the Reviews & Articles
Tom's Hardware > Forum > Digital Camera > Digital SLR > high iso black & white

high iso black & white

Tom's Hardware: Over 1.4 million members in 6 different countries available to answer all your high-tech questions. Sign up now! Its free!
Add a reply
Word :    Username :           
 
M   09-29-2005 at 05:51:19 PM

Archived from groups: rec.photo.digital.slr-systems (More info?)

 

I am a recent convert to digital SLR (although i have not parted with my EOS
30 camera yet!). I was always a fan of T-MAX 3200 - the grain created a
great effect if used in the right situation. Is it possible to replicate
this film grain effect using digital?

Add a reply
Sponsored Links
Register or log in to remove.
jmw   09-29-2005 at 07:09:25 PM
- 0 +

Archived from groups: rec.photo.digital.slr-systems (More info?)

 

M wrote:
> I am a recent convert to digital SLR (although i have not parted with my EOS
> 30 camera yet!). I was always a fan of T-MAX 3200 - the grain created a
> great effect if used in the right situation. Is it possible to replicate
> this film grain effect using digital?
>
>

Some software can do it.
Also, you can help by shooting a Nikon D100 at ASA 6400.

Jan

Reply to jmw
Anonymous   09-29-2005 at 07:19:21 PM
- 0 +

Archived from groups: rec.photo.digital.slr-systems (More info?)

 

M wrote:
> I am a recent convert to digital SLR (although i have not parted with
> my EOS 30 camera yet!). I was always a fan of T-MAX 3200 - the grain
> created a great effect if used in the right situation. Is it
> possible to replicate this film grain effect using digital?

It has to be ironic, this. Perhaps 90% of the posts here are about how
one camera has a little more or less noise than another, and here's you
wanting to add considerable noise! Personally, I've never seen a small
amount of noise as a problem, but that's not the fashionable view today.

Either shoot at a high ISO and/or add a neutral density filter to your
lens. You can also use programs like Paint Shop Pro to add noise to an
image.

David

Reply to Anonymous
Eugene   09-30-2005 at 06:24:15 AM
- 0 +

Archived from groups: rec.photo.digital.slr-systems (More info?)

 

Best idea is to just do it in post-processing with Photoshop or
something. You'll never get a Canon digital SLR to produce equivalent
grain to 3200 T-MAX. Using software to do it gives you a lot of control
and you should be able to achieve an effect that looks similar to high
speed film.

> I am a recent convert to digital SLR (although i have not parted with my EOS
> 30 camera yet!). I was always a fan of T-MAX 3200 - the grain created a
> great effect if used in the right situation. Is it possible to replicate
> this film grain effect using digital?
>
>

Reply to Eugene
M   09-30-2005 at 06:24:16 AM
- 0 +

Archived from groups: rec.photo.digital.slr-systems (More info?)

 

Thats what I thought. As I don't have photoshop yet it may be a good thing
that I kept my film camera. I seem to be in a minority in this group that I
actually love digital but also love film. How many photographers out there
still have and use both? I have EOS 30 and EOS 350D.

I suspect that even manipulating a digital image is still not going to give
the real gritty grain of TMAX 3200. I've taken some great city shots and
beach and sand shots with this film.


"Eugene" <nospamthanks@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:dhgte8$5l5$1@otis.netspace.net.au...
> Best idea is to just do it in post-processing with Photoshop or something.
> You'll never get a Canon digital SLR to produce equivalent grain to 3200
> T-MAX. Using software to do it gives you a lot of control and you should
> be able to achieve an effect that looks similar to high speed film.
>
>> I am a recent convert to digital SLR (although i have not parted with my
>> EOS 30 camera yet!). I was always a fan of T-MAX 3200 - the grain
>> created a great effect if used in the right situation. Is it possible to
>> replicate this film grain effect using digital?

Reply to M
Eugene   09-30-2005 at 07:12:32 AM
- 0 +

Archived from groups: rec.photo.digital.slr-systems (More info?)

 

I also have an EOS 30 as well as my 20D. I don't use the EOS 30 a great
deal these days though, just because it seems so tedius (and expensive)
dealing with film. I don't have access to a decent scanner, and I've
never been particularly happy with the CD's I used to get from the minilabs.

You probably would have got a copy of PhotoShop Elements with your 350D?
That I think would be able to run most of the standard filters, like
"add noise". I haven't used it though, so I don't know for sure.

Another reason to keep your film camera is that unfortunately they're
worth not much 2nd hand. I contemplated selling mine a while ago, and
the guy at my local camera store said I'd be very lucky if I could get
$500 for it. At that stage it was less than a year old and really had
hardly been used. I wasn't keen on getting less than half what I paid
for it though. The EOS-30 really is an awesome camera. I can't fault it.

Mostly when I use my film cameras it's with slide film, like provia and
velvia. This stuff is insanely expensive, but I have yet to see anything
digital that has anywhere near the saturation and colour tonal range of
top shelf transparency film.

> Thats what I thought. As I don't have photoshop yet it may be a good thing
> that I kept my film camera. I seem to be in a minority in this group that I
> actually love digital but also love film. How many photographers out there
> still have and use both? I have EOS 30 and EOS 350D.
>
> I suspect that even manipulating a digital image is still not going to give
> the real gritty grain of TMAX 3200. I've taken some great city shots and
> beach and sand shots with this film.
>
>

Reply to Eugene
Anonymous   09-30-2005 at 07:25:48 AM
- 0 +

Archived from groups: rec.photo.digital.slr-systems (More info?)

 

According to David J Taylor <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.not-this-bit.nor-this-part.uk.invalid>:
> M wrote:
> > I am a recent convert to digital SLR (although i have not parted with
> > my EOS 30 camera yet!). I was always a fan of T-MAX 3200 - the grain
> > created a great effect if used in the right situation. Is it
> > possible to replicate this film grain effect using digital?
>
> It has to be ironic, this. Perhaps 90% of the posts here are about how
> one camera has a little more or less noise than another, and here's you
> wanting to add considerable noise! Personally, I've never seen a small
> amount of noise as a problem,

I agree -- just as grain was part of the territory back in my
high-speed (or pushed) film days.

> but that's not the fashionable view today.
>
> Either shoot at a high ISO and/or add a neutral density filter to your
> lens.

I'm not familiar with T-MAX 3200, but I suspect that the grains
are larger than single pixel size with anything at the 3200 ISO level
(presumed from the name). DSLR noise is confined to brightness
variations on individual pixels, and only by rare chance will two or
more adjacent noise pixels be at the same value to appear to be larger.

> You can also use programs like Paint Shop Pro to add noise to an
> image.

Is suspect that this might be the best way to go. Or perhaps
shoot some of the T-MAX 3200 on an 18% gray card and scan that as
something to merge with your image using your favorite photo processing
program. Perhaps modulate the gain at each pixel location with the
information from the grain reference image from the film.

Enjoy,
DoN.

--
Email: <dnichols@d-and-d.com> | Voice (all times): (703) 938-4564
(too) near Washington D.C. | http://www.d-and-d.com/dnichols/DoN.html
--- Black Holes are where God is dividing by zero ---

Reply to Anonymous
Ask the community Add a reply
Tom's Hardware > Forum > Digital Camera > Digital SLR > high iso black & white
Go to:

There are 1159 identified and unidentified users. To see the list of identified users, Click here.

Forum map
Bestofmedia Forum ©
2000-2009 Bestofmedia Group
Page generated in 0.256 seconds
Please mind

You are about to answer a thread that has been inactive for more than 6 months.
If you still wish to proceed, please ensure that your posting is original and does not duplicate or overlap any prior responses to this thread.

Add a reply Cancel
Sponsored links